“Games, security software and popular business programs are clashing with Microsoft’s long-awaited security update for Windows XP. Since SP2 was released to business users, reports have circulated about programs behaving differently once the upgrade is in place,’ BBC News reports. “Microsoft has drawn up a long list of programs that do not sit well with SP2. Included in the list are games such as Unreal Tournament, Photoshop Elements and most file-sharing programs.”
Full article here.
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Win XP SP2 enhancements cause conflicts, don’t protect as claimed – August 14, 2004
And people are surprised? . . .
And in other news…
Mac users download and install patches and upgrades with little to no problems.
Oh wait… OSX is already secure.
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Nothing to see here folks, move along…
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SP2 has been blocked at various labs pending long, exhausting, frustrating checking of all and everything. Installing it and having applications and services not working is not an option.
Corporates and businesses will take months before applying it.
Just about same average low quality Microsoft experience. Windows users will believe all platform share the same crappy computing experience.
Or maybe realize that quality and security do not go along with Microsoft in the same sentence.
C’mon, I’m as anti-MS as the next guy, but do we really need 4 (at least) stories on this SP2?
This is so typical of Microsoft!
When are these pc idiots gonna learn!!
DITCH MICROSOFT AND WINDOWS!!!!
I have NO respect for any person who puts up with this crap!
HAHA
Solar Flare…Perfect Name.
A sudden eruption of gas in a forum, usually associated with spouting off of uncontolable trolling and accompanied by a burst of FUD that is often followed by a mental disturbance otherwise known to Erupt or Intensify Suddenly, to become angry or to make a sudden outbreak in verbal abuse. A sudden outburst or worsening of a disease…
Do you need TP for your Bunghole?
Get a Clue…
Dant�s:
Of course we do..Otherwise the Mac flamers wont have any fun.
“C’mon, I’m as anti-MS as the next guy, but do we really need 4 (at least) stories on this SP2?”
Yes, and more stories are needed. Clueless Mac zealots have an endless supply of ignorant comments.
For instance, we need a story on how the NX support in SP2 is preventing some programs from working. Then the clueless Mac zealots who don’t have the slightest fscking clue what NX is could post some ignorant comments about that as well.
what’s more funny?
the Mac “zealots” who read this site, or the PC Trolls who come here as well?
hmmm….. oh, the average Mac user is ignorant of Windows problems? what a surprise! how does anyone keep up with that ever expanding, confounding, and exasperating domain? by the same token, what does the average PC user know about the Mac? oh – they come here to read anti-Windows news, and then get upset?
that’s very funny. I never feel the urge to read Windows sites. Guess why? I never have to know about “NX support,” and hopefully, I never will.
Go on back home, and stop wishing you had the Mac user experience. it will only keep you up at night. In the meantime, we are happy to make fun of every anti-Windows reference on this site, and still continue to work.
I’ll tell you what Mac “zealots” have a clue about: staying the hell away from inferior software and hardware that require endless patches, special third party “promising” fixes, and the endless blue screen of death. Not to mention the viruses, spyware, and malware which I just spent two days excising from my niece and nephew’s PC. Not surprisingly, they have been exposed to bad things already. Also not surprisingly, my sister is buying a Mac next weekend. She doesnt’ want her kids growing up to know about NX support either.
A lot of Mac zealots have to use Windows at one point or another during their day. Believe me, we know the pain of using Windows.
Windows using trolls, we feel your pain. If attacking smug Mac users makes you feel better then you just go right ahead and attack us.
We understand.
I used to visit this site alot, but I’ve been away. Now that I’m back strolling around, I can’t believe I ever used to agree with most of this garbage. Don’t get me wrong, I love Apple products, and I carry my share of zeal, but this “news” site is crap. Mac Daily News. OK, so where’s the Mac news? It seems that MDN relishes in the misfortune of MS/XP. That is not Mac news.It is MDN throwing a big juicy steak to a pack of wolves, exactly what they criticize the trolls for. Mac users don’t need to convince anybody that their product is superior, especially at this particular site. The trash that is talked about companies other than Apple (even talk trash about IBM for delayed chips, but you all jump for joy that you have a G5) is the same sort of stuff that your MS counterparts do. I thought the Mac community was a little more sophisticated than this. Reporting the dirty laundry of other companies is not Mac news. It’s exactly what CNET, Enderle and all those other boneheads do. Trash talk the competition. But it’s ok for us to do it because it’s Apple? Now that I’m back reading this site after being away, it is painfully (and embarassingly) obvious that the banter in here is no better than the crap that PC users talk. The bar is higher for us guys. No need to be like the trolls.
“I never have to know about “NX support,” and hopefully, I never will.”
If one wants to criticize something and be taken seriously, one better know what the fsck one is talking about.
Then again, nobody in their right fscking mind comes to this site to find intelligent criticism of Microsoft products.
“Then again, nobody in their right fscking mind comes to this site to find intelligent criticism of Microsoft products.”
Then please enlighten us; why exactly are you here? Maybe it’s just me, but shouldn’t intelligent criticism of Microsoft products take place on Windows sites? I believe in live and let live, and I don’t visit Windows-centric sites, much less post on them. What is it about MDN that attracts Windows users? By the way, don’t expect to hear me trashing Windows; I’ve never used it, nor had reason to, so it would be hypocritical of me. Microsoft’s business practices, on the other hand are a different kettle of fish.
Roy,
I have to agree that the MDN editors seem to love getting the zealots all worked up, and sure enough the morons always respond.
>Dantes wrote: C’mon, I’m as anti-MS as the next guy, but do we really need 4 (at least) stories on this SP2?
Not so much anti-anything (I use what works for me)… but you’re right. Somewhat redundant, especially when you can cut and paste comments from just about any thread and use them over again.
Here’s the average MDN news thread:
– Everything Microsoft sucks and people who use them are idiots.
– Anything Apple and Steve Jobs is great and we’re smarter than Windoze.
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You can read any two threads – the don’t even need to be related – and you’ll uncover this trend.
…. and so who’ll be the first to start name-calling?
>Dantes wrote: C’mon, I’m as anti-MS as the next guy, but do we really need 4 (at least) stories on this SP2?
Not so much anti-anything (I use what works for me)… but you’re right. Somewhat redundant, especially when you can cut and paste comments from just about any thread and use them over again.
Here’s the average MDN news thread:
– Everything Microsoft sucks and people who use them are idiots.
– Anything Apple and Steve Jobs is great and we’re smarter than Windoze.
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You can read any two threads – the don’t even need to be related – and you’ll uncover this trend.
…. and so who’ll be the first to start name-calling?
To all PC zealots and WinTrolls…You can be our guest and leave at any time ya know. If you don’t like it here just don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out…
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Me! I’ll name call all you want. What would you like to be called? How about correct?
NX support – marking blocks of data as NON-EXECUTABLE
Another borrowed idea. Vax VMS had this years ago.
Basically it stops data from being executed.
Windows security problems are not always the result of such exploits, although this will help limit them. It is understadnable how this could affect some software from running though.
I too am baffled by the steady stream of trolls who inhabit this and other Mac-centric sites, and waste irreplaceable moments of their life scribbling .22 caliber insults and ‘humor’ about us and our choice in computer platforms.
Strange.
It’s been going on for years and some of them have reached almost celebrity status (for their singleminded intensity, certainly not for the quality of their attacks).
I actually can’t believe that their are a dozen or more men and women (altho based on the low and vulgar humor they sling about, it certainly looks like all men) who have the patience to do this for YEARS, altho it certainly seems so.
I can see a M’Soft user or two stumbling across this site, crashing in, flapping about, sticking around for a week or two of spirited insults, and then leaving. That makes sense. That’s human. That’s explainable.
But what is going on here has to bigger. Not a LOT bigger. Just a bit bigger.
They are either being paid to come here and mess around, or they have some sort of enormous grudge against Apple and Macintosh. A real brain burning, gut churning, revenge fantasy going on here.
So I submit my theory. It’s either a bunch of college students being paid to harass us. Or it’s Bill Gates himself.
Personally, I think it’s Bill Gates. Sure, he has a business that is arguably the most successful in history. And he is as rich as Croesus.
But he is not on the cover of news magazines, or holding meetings with rock stars, or at the helm of a company that is changing the computer industry every day. Apple is in the front of the personal computing industry, which at this time, is at the front of human history itself in the late 20th, and early 21st century. Microsoft could go on for a century without Gates. I’m not sure that Apple could last six months without Jobs. Not because there aren’t people as smart or talented as Jobs.
But I doubt that there is one individual who would command as much respect, and not be challenged, and be followed blindly without question, as Jobs is.
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And now Windows is getting very bad press, because of it’s inability to fend itself efficiently against hackers.
Windows is ugly, unimaginative, and buggy. And so BIG. It has so much momentum and inertia that Longhorn is years away. Meanwhile Apple corners all the good press, all the INTERESTING press. No journalists are writing mash notes about Windows or PC computers.
An industry that has completely separate software, hardware, and peripheral manufacturers in order to make ONE box work properly, can not move quickly, and perhaps has reached a point where it can no longer innovate or move forward at all. Because there is no singular vision, like at APPLE. Sure, it’s possible to make Windows machines faster, or more powerful. But that’s about it.
Anyway, Bill Gates sits there and can barely get through a day without Apple news, and Steve Jobs interviews, and the only press he or is company gets is the latest bug or virus or worm or trojan horse burrowing into his software and damaging thousands of computers and businesses.
So.. there be trolls here. And they be Bill Gates.
david vesey
I’m a mac head, and yes I admit I don’t know a great deal about windows. But in a windows dominated world I am forced to know at least something about it. How to hook into networks, how to save files so that windows can access them etc.. The pc people i know, know absolutly nothing about macs. And I mean ZERO. They scoff and laugh at the fact that my computer was oh so expensive. They fail to realise I’ve had very few problems with it. Mostly everything i want to do with my mac i can do the way i want to do it, everything is ready to go straight out of the box, i don’t need to upgrade my graphics card or buy speakers or microphones, I don’t need to download 100 drivers everytime i reinstall the OS,and i don’t lose a month a year due to virus attacks. I got what i paid for i guess.
I certainly do not mean any disrespect to any windows user. Price is a big factor these days i know. But don’t think just because something is a lot cheaper when you first buy it, you are saving money. In the long run you’re not. Bottom line is whatever works best for you. But don’t get me wrong, my mac has caused me heaps of headaches over the years, but the problems encountered on a mac usually over time can be nutted out by the average user.PCs are great at some things. Lots of things in fact. Heaps more games to choose from, plenty of software. But for me, the security issues alone would sway me, not nessessarily to a mac. But i would at least consider one of the Linux variations. And yes i know absolutly nothing about Linux but i have heard it can be quite a stable and secure OS.
I think it’s time all Mac and PC users started getting along a bit better. There’s enough shit going on in the world as it is.
So come on, group hug.
re: NoMacForYou
FUCK OFF PC TROLL!
GO BACK TO YOUR CRAPPY DELL AND GET A LIFE AND A MAC!
david vesey: Thank you for a wonderful post.
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I agree; David and the very few like him who generally have something insightful to say keep me coming back here. Although truth be told, sometimes I take malicious enjoyment in baiting trolls
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<i>”So come on, group hug.”
And don’t forget to sing “Kumbaya”.