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Wired calls iPod the 21st-century Walkman; says iPod revolutionizing consumer electronics
Friday, January 17, 2003 - 11:00 AM EDT

"For Keiji Kimura, the problem is small enough to fit in his pocket and just heavy enough to weigh on his mind. Kimura is a senior VP at Sony headquarters in Tokyo, and the problem in question is Apple's iPod, the snappy little music player that's revolutionizing consumer electronics the way Sony's Walkman did some 20 years ago. By rights, Sony should own the portable player business... But the 21st-century Walkman doesn't bother with tapes or CDs or minidiscs; it stores hundreds of hours of music on its own hard drive. And it sports an Apple logo."

"'It's a good product,' Kimura says of the iPod. 'It's exciting. I am positive the hard disk is a key device that will change our lifestyle.'"

"[Sony President Kunitake Ando] wants nothing less than for Sony to reinvent itself. But that will never happen as long as the company is frozen by its fear of piracy... it's conflicted: Sony's entertainment side needs to let customers move files around effortlessly, but its entertainment side wants to build in restraints... Where the iPod simply lets you sync its contents with the music collection on your personal computer, [Sony] Walkman users are hamstrung by laborious 'check-in, check-out' procedures designed to block illicit file-sharing. And a Walkman with a hard drive? Not likely, since Sony's copy-protection mechanisms don't allow music to be transferred from one hard drive to another - not an issue with the iPod. 'We do not have any plans for such a product,' says Kimura, the smile fading. 'But, we are studying it.'"

"...Apple is delivering the innovation while Sony studies the matter," writes Frank Rose in his upcoming article "The Civil War Inside Sony," in Wired Magazine's February 2003 issue (not yet online).

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Jan 17, 03 - 01:51 pm Comment from: Righteous Truthteller

Only 216,000 iPods sold - half to Windows users = dismal failure. Do you know how many portable music devices are sold each year?

Jan 17, 03 - 02:05 pm Comment from: wonderer

no, how many?

Jan 17, 03 - 02:06 pm Comment from: Apaturia

No, do you?

Jan 17, 03 - 02:10 pm Comment from: Righteous Truthteller

Only 108,000 Apple users and only 108,000 Windows users bought an iPod last quarter. That's it? Not even a blip on the radar. Tens of millions of portable music devices were sold last quarter worldwide - common sense it all it takes.

Jan 17, 03 - 02:16 pm Comment from: Frodon

It's funny to read jealous people wink

Jan 17, 03 - 02:22 pm Comment from: Omi-san

That's 216,000 portable music devices with an average cost of US $400. A typical personal stereo device (discman, MP3 player) sells in the under $100, and more often under $50 range. All this in a downward-facing economy. Do the math. Dismal failure? I think not.

Jan 17, 03 - 02:32 pm Comment from: Righteous Truthteller

Still, wouldn't you think that with Christmas and everything, Apple could have sold more than a mere 216,000? After all, they easily sold over a million iMacs during that quarter in the past - at a much higher price than an iPod. My guess is that Creative sold MILLIONS of Nomad Zens:
http://www.nomadworld.com/products/Jukebox_Zen/

Jan 17, 03 - 02:32 pm Comment from: Nobody in particular

Did you notice that the data was last *quarter* - not last year? And accelerating? 216,000 in three months is not insignificant.

Jan 17, 03 - 02:39 pm Comment from: Nobody in particular

216,000 iPods in 13 weeks is 16,615 per week. According to UpgradeSource.com, 11/24/02, Nomad Zen was selling at a rate of 1644/week. That'll work out to 21,372 for the quarter.

Nuff Said?

Jan 17, 03 - 02:45 pm Comment from: Righteous Truthteller

That's how many "Upgrade Source" ALONE sold! 'Nuff said, indeed.

Jan 17, 03 - 02:46 pm Comment from: Jack Campbell

Nomad sold 175,000 HDD based MP3 players last year. There are NOT ", millions and millions" of these things sold. Perhaps 600,000 to 700,000 total units will end up as the 2002 total, with just over 1 million projected for 2003. (Source: http://www.idema.org/public/calendar/industry_market_ress.html)

In other words, the iPod essentially OWNS this market space.

If you want to compare non-HDD players wiht these numbers, go ahead, but it would say nothing about the iPod's success... which is utterly mindboggling.

What a homerun for Apple!

Jan 17, 03 - 02:59 pm Comment from: Realistic TruthTeller

"Righteous TruthTeller" = narrowminded idiot

Jan 17, 03 - 04:45 pm Comment from: Fork

The proper link that Jack refers to below is:
http://www.idema.org/public/calendar/industry_market_reinsel.html

Jan 17, 03 - 09:32 pm Comment from: Gregg Thurman

Whatever you think of iPod sales, the facts are that in a market flooded with $50 - $100 MP3 players; the iPod, at an average of $400 per unit garnered 26% of total MP3 player sales. Let's see: 615,000 * $100 (ignoring impact of lower priced MP3s) = $61,500,000. 216,000 iPods * $400 (average selling price) = $86,400,000. Yep, sure looks like a loser to me.

Jan 17, 03 - 10:56 pm Comment from: in love with my ipod

I knew i wanted an ipod. But now i couldnt live without my ipod. It is so much more than i thought it would be. The great interface, speed and massive storage does something special. It liberates your cd collection. I have 400 cds ... 250 of which are now on my ipod with more to come ... i have rediscovered so much music that i had forgotten about ... it is such a joy.

As more and more people discover this watch sales continue to grow. In Japan ipod has 42% market share. This is staggering given that ipod is a foreign and premium priced product in a fiercly competitive market.

Jan 18, 03 - 05:12 am Comment from: Tabito

I have to say it changed my life also... I travel constantly and for years had my CD collection essentially stored in a box... with the iPod I take it all (well almost all!) with me -- what a joy! Plus it's great as a file transfer tool when I'm working with my clients' macs smile

Jan 18, 03 - 11:39 am Comment from: Jazz1

When the iPod was first announced I didn't immediately see what set it apart from MP3 players. Having owned a Sony with ATRAC I soon realized what a godsend this device was. I can't believe I once tried to defend Sony's hideous copy protection scheme. I'm no pirate, but the copy protection scheme of ATRAC ignored the MP3 standard, and conversion times (on a Mac running Windows in emulation) were lengthy, and forced me to duplicate my MP3 collection on my Mac.

The iPod is still the champ regarding ease of use, sound quality, design, size and storage. iTunes, the companion application, has let me organize my 400 CD collection in a way I never could have with competing applications. Smartplaylists let me find music in my 2,500+ tunes that would have otherwise been long forgotten. Want to hear tunes you haven't heard in the last twenty days. No problem! Want to hear your personally rated favorites in any specific genre before 1990, no problem.

What remains is for Apple and third parties to find ways to let me shoot my music collection throughout my household. Finally, Apple lets see more storage. Believe it or not this music lover is already filling up the 20 gig iPod.

Jan 18, 03 - 06:27 pm Comment from: zenpod

TO the idiots lamely trying to bash or dismiss the iPod ... go read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence. It may give you some insight into the concept of "quality" as it relates to the objects in our lives. The essential quality of the iPod so far surpasses all the other devices on the market that it is essentially in a league of its own. And if you care about the quality of your life -- like having an experience of music as a living, essential element that YOU control -- get an iPod. Otherwise, go back to ClearChannel corporate rock and join the mindless herds.

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