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I wouldn't be suprised is "ron" is actually Al Gore's psuedonym.

However, it appears that he/she is just another frustrated Windows user for which I'm glad. I wouldn't want such a blatant waste of "man pudding" man-handling a Mac the way he/she probably handles his own scrotum - with reckless abandon.

ron - your "real Windows PC" probably doesn't have viruses and spyware because you were stupid enough to shell out $70-$80 for antivirus software. I haven't had to be so unfortunate and yet - still no viruses after 7 years.

BTW: I'm a Conservative and a native New-Yorker. So, whenever you feel like a man/woman stop by Brooklyn and don't bother getting a return trip ticket. The landfill by the Belt Pkwy is too big for your family to find you.

Chris

Yup, Macs are toys. Anything that makes computing child's play is a triumph in human interface design.

Still, XP's default color scheme could pass for Fisher Price.

"People who know use Mac"

"You went from an Amiga to a PC! Yikes! Now that must have been a huge downgrade."

Yeah, I have to agree with that statement 110%. IMO nothing could even touch the Amiga for it's time, and that includes Macs. Amiga 1000, 1985 - First personal computer with a TRUE preemptive multitasking OS, could display 4096 colors in HAM (hold and modify) mode, dedicated sound and graphics chips to offload the processor, a bit-blitter chip for moving large chunks of memory very quickly (helps with graphics and animation), a decent GUI, and a "Unix-like" CLI. I had a 500, 2000, and a 3000. I had a Mac Plus, but ditched it about 9 months later to get my 500? Why? I wanted the best platform available at the time and the Amiga was it. My 500 was 7.16 Mhz and I could multi-task effortlessly with only 512MB of RAM. Early versions of the OS (1.0-1.3) were not known for being stable (many "Guru" errors/system takedowns - like a BSOD). Also capable of doing a full 30FPS and amazing full color 3-D ray tracing/rendering. I still miss it :( OS X Panther, and now Tiger have actually made using my computer interesting and fun again - there were many dark years in-between.

The #1 reason I'm glad I'm a Mac switcher?

PC trolls like Ron.

Ooh, Aah, I Love My Mac'N'Trash Puter because it wipes my butt, I couldn’t do that before I had one, ha ha ha. All computers are the same with respect to the points you Crapintosh owners are trying to argue. With any computer, Any Computer, if you don't know what you’re doing, it won't run worth a darn and it doesn’t do what you need it too and of course you may have to deal with viruses, spam and ad ware. I've owned and or used a wide variety, starting with Commodore VIC then 64, 128 and an Amiga 2K 030, then Mac's starting with the Apple to system’s running OS9, and PC's running just every MS OS up to date including MS\IBM OS/2. Don’t get me wrong, Mac’s are not horrible computers but they have never been the best in any one area, maybe DTP back in the late 80's. There was even a short time that Mac’s were starting to look as though they would become dominant in the Scientific, Pharmaceutical and Biotech industries. But no more, in the last seven years it’s gone the other away because Mac’s don’t have the business applications (No not Office) like PC’s or brute force processing like Silicon Graphics which both levels are necessary to get WORK done. Of course they have never been prevalent in any big business, anywhere. Whether you want to accept it or not, Mac’s are a toys sold to school children. Why do you think the latest Mac advertisements are pushing PC compatibility again, “too shay”? Market share is the only thing that makes a computer better, because that’s where the software developers are. PC’s are less expensive and have just about any software\hardware you could ever imagine, yes you do have to pay for virus protection, but as someone wrote, the PC only costs $200; so you have a lot of money left for software. The only thing that really matters is whether or not you have useful apps, Losers! By the way, iTunes runs on PC’s, but Media player is better. One more thing, have you ever heard of Outlook?

It is nice to see these articles. I have become sensitive, ok a just a little, to Winders since I haven't used one since XP first came out. Not dealing with Winders everyday makes me think I might take my Macs for granted. Yeah the good old days of swearing at PC's at work and totally enjoying my Macs at home. I used to talk the boss into letting me work at home because my non-gay, non-homo, non-fag PC crashed three times a day. It was like an oasis. But since I lobbied for macs about five years ago, I don't hate Winders as much and I forget the suffering.

Oh and since the first mac came in the door here at work, there are 11 others in the building and IT hates me. You'd think they'd be happy, thats 11 less machines they have to support, oh well. Every one of these people feel like this guy above. They wonder why they waited and became big time Mac fanatics.

Swordmaker: ""It's only a tool." That is not something most Mac users would say."

I am a 100% Mac owner that uses Photoshop, Illustrator, Maya and many other graphic programs. It is my full-time job.
The Mac computer is only a tool. It could do nothing, create nothing without me.

Wow! Where did that Ron guy come from? The local Fascist meeting must have let out close to a computer that had MDN on a computer screen.

He's liable to snap any second now.

i like my mac even more because it pisses off ron...it makes me laugh lol outloud.

©, another Amiga-to-Mac convert? Small world!

My first PC was an Osbourne I - back in 1981, when a 64K CP/M system was a reasonable choice for SOHO use. I moved to a C=128D, then to an A-500, eventually to an A-3000 - and then the proverbial brown bio-matter hit the proverbial mechanical breeze-maker.

I was not</b> thrilled by my first Mac. Or my second. Perfectly fine, better than the alternatives, but ... where was my Terminal??? It can't be a Real Computer unless it lets you get your grubby fingers into the file system, type commands, and generally show off your geek-chops. Then came OS X and a great deal of comfort. For some, the comfort was added stability, others added security, and some just love the ability to run ftp from a shell window - and choose between bash and tcsh! The latter is what made me <u>GLAD to be a Mac Switcher.

Gotta get a "grammar checker" for those Tags - BBEdit would be nice.

BrooklynNYC, Al Gore is a Mac man ... and I've seen the Idiot-In-Chief with a PowerBook. Both also have iPods, but the chimp listens to "soft country" - now I do have a couple of Dolly's tunes on mine, but they are the exception. (Does an IQ of 91 qualify you for idiot status?)

Can we stop talking about the flamer, now? He needs help we cannot provide in this forum.

all i say is fuck all you mother-fuckers. Pc's and mac's both suck. Get off the fucking net before it's too late. Then go get laid instead of reading this fucking bs thread if you can. I hope you all get it up the ass.

Al gore is a wahsed up wanna be ass hole. He's a failure and more importantly yesterday's news. Fuck al, he's useless. Why would you bring him into this post? Get a life.

I agree with Donovan. You guys suck ass.

Hey "Pondo" and "donovan" do me a favor and go fuck your mothers if you haven't already. Their much better in bed than your fathers think they are!!

Does an IQ of 91 qualify you for idiot status?

That wasn't necessary. You're just as bad as everyone else, scumbag.

Mike Wendland wrote"

#8 Mac software - I mentioned SpamSieve and iTunes. But then there’s other special Mac apps like the RSS-reader NetNewsWire, GarageBand, Safari and Final Cut Pro. I can not imagine computing without these apps.

Interesting that he would list Final Cut Pro as a "critical" application for him - especially given the fact that he is a journalist, and (to my knowledge) not involved in professional movie production. I use Final Cut Express HD and find that MORE than sufficient for my needs for working on home movies. (I got it for a good price.) It's just interesting that a Pro app would be considered critical to someone not who is not a professional in that field. To each his own - no harm intended.

Peace.

They call you yellow, never mellow.

@DLM - "I was not thrilled by my first Mac. Or my second. Perfectly fine, better than the alternatives, but ... where was my Terminal???"

It's funny....I felt exactly the same way. After a few months of using my Mac Plus, I felt frustrated because I could never get "under" the OS. That was true to the Mac design philosophy, but I was so used to be able to use some sort of CLI, that I bailed after experiencing the Amiga (R.I.P.). Color, larger monitors, and a true multitasking OS sealed the deal for me and games as well (I'm not much of a gamer anymore). Anyway, I still miss my Amiga's - the 2000 was my favorite design.........

BTW: The first I ever encountered viruses was on the Amiga, and they were vicious! Boot sector viruses - I was facinated by them at the time because I had never heard of such a concept. I was not so facinated by the consequences of them.

I wrote:
""It's only a tool." That is not something most Mac users would say."<i>

To which Mac owner x 5 wrote:

<i>I am a 100% Mac owner that uses Photoshop, Illustrator, Maya and many other graphic programs. It is my full-time job. The Mac computer is only a tool. It could do nothing, create nothing without me.

Thank you for being the exception that proves the rule... It is just that EVERY time I have seen that phrase on a Mac v. PC flame war, it has come from the PC owner.

As you and I well know there are tools and there are tools... Some will be a joy to use, feel well balanced in your hand, and accomplish their intended purpose with efficiency and elan. Then there are tools that are intended to do the same thing that are a pain to use; unbalanced, poorly designed, made of low quality materials, and while they may accomplish the task, they leave a lot of damage to the work surface and frustration in the user.

Gosh, Ron, don't you think it a little strange how you are the only person in this entire thread who somehow equates a discussion about a computer operating system with a human being's sexual orientation?

I mean, it would make an equal amount of sense to rant about all the Pepsi-drinking, Mac lovers with their Pepsi-filled brains unable to see that their Pepsi-stained, toy computers don't come anywhere close to the performance of PCs owned by proud, Coke-drinking people everywhere.

Huh?

The point is that the discussion is about computers, and in this particular case, why a specific person feels his decision to jump from the PC world to a Mac was the right one for him to make. Talking about anything other than points related to that topic says nothing about the author's character, and *volumes* about your own.

If I were a betting man, Ron, I'd say you have some real conflicts going on inside of you, probably revolving around a persistent, unconscious denial of your own same-sex attractions.

This conflicts with some sort of value system imposed from without (probably from a religious belief), causing a situation where: (a) gayness is intolerable, and (b) you are this intolerable thing. This creates a really uncomfortable existence for the ego, and so it *transfers* the loathing of the intolerable gayness onto others. By repeatedly saying how bad gayness is, and by repeatedly attributing to others, you create a certain comfort zone for your ego.

But it will only work for so long. In the meantime, you are spouting out hateful, negative crap that only brings you down.

A good counselor, psychologist, or therapist could be of great help to you. He or she could show you how to safely acknowledge your own same sex attractions, and how to give yourself permission to just experience the feelings (even if you do not act on them just yet). He or she can also slowly help you to reevaluate the "if I'm gay, then I am bad" belief you are quite clearly carrying around. There are millions of people all around you who--by just being who they are--show that belief to be completely baseless.

obviously you are a fucking retard if you do get a worming tracking cookie etc... using a PC. Anyone that knows a fucking thing about computers understands websites

use mozfirefox....the most stable browser available (hit number one macfags, try to fully integrate that)

an the second thing you understand is that buying prebuilt computers is a waste of time and money... at anytime i can upgrade my PC with whatever the cutting edge is and i can decide whether or not i need it ( you are just going to get old news in the next version of your shitty mac)

and my system since it is fully upgradeable can now run at minimum three times faster than your mac even though i purchased the majority of my components at the same time (go ahead try upgrading your motherboard to an ASUSELITE (best motherboard) with a Quadcore (now tell me how stable your integrated piece of nothing shit is now)

and to top it all off, the part which you will all whole hearted deny and fight, YOUR MAC GETS VIRUSES!!!! OMG!!! the whole world is coming to an end!!!! it is true your mac is just as likely to get a virus as any pc. i fucking dare you to try to hack my pc you will receive the worst mygot has to offer too bad when a mac gets it the computer crashes or when it infects your email system will wholly delete itself... which it does when you get a virus but then auto downloads a replacement.. which leads to my favorite vulnerability in macs THEY DELETE FILES TO HIDE VIRUSES, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS PUT A SHADOW CODE TO INFECT YOUR AUTOUPDATE

TAKE THAT YOU FUCKING HIPPIE MACFAGS GET SKILLS OR DONT USE COMPUTERS

you mac loving losers just completely overlook static mesh's comment because he likes macs, then immediately stoop to ron's level and call him a "fag" back? static mesh says

Come see my old clan outfit in my closet ron, you can try out the hood while I widen the eyeholes with a sharp knife wink

BUT SINCE HE PREDICATED IT WITH

I'm a gun toting, fag bashing, rebel flag sporting red neck with a mean streak a mile wide.

But I love my precious Mac.

its acceptable with you fuckin losers? you losers are pathetic. all you gotta do to be accepted around here is like macs and you can be a bigot murderer?

by the way i hate to burst your bubble but one of the main things apple is known for being good at (graphic design) is also one of the main things that bursts its no-crashing streak. try using cs3 on a new macintosh and you'll see what i mean.

or don't, say you did and say that it NEVER crashes. you're really believable you fanboi fucks