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Will Unix-based Mac OS's run on Intel processors?

"Will Unix-based Mac OS's run on Intel processors?"
Considering that all Apple sells now is Unix-based Mac OS's, I'd put eleventy-billion dollars on it.

mAN, this DRANO feels AWESOME when I SNORT it up my nose!!!!

Apple is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

why do most people on this thread sound like cultists. most either sound like haters or even that they are "superior" because of a fucking computer platform. i understand macs are the minority but damn!

especially the "almighty mac" thing. holy shit if that ain't a cultist i don't know what is. wonder if he's ever lived in Waco, Texas. praise Allah for the mac!!.....lol what a retard.

praise Allah for the mac!!.....lol what a retard.

You sound like a jealous POS who just loves to hack his way to whatever he wants......

The simple fact of the matter is that these are merely opinions, think of the definition of the word cultist and then reapply it to your statement....cultist? I doubt it highly.

Maniacal fan of something that "just works" unlike the bloated, patch laden, grey haired, resting on its laurels hulk that is windows XP?

no thanks, Ill stick with Mac osx, on the almighty Mac

I guess my PC is now a Mac

hmmmmm i wonder what will stop apple popping a kill switch for this pirated build in with a special update in a few months time and starting again

perhaps giving developers a bootable cd that can only be run for 24 hours on intel hardware would have been a better idea

The point is, Apple is going to sell the OS X division to Intel. Apple will get enough extra cash to cover the short term loss of Mac sales several times over. Intel will no longer depend on Microsoft. MS will become an application developer on OS/Intel, just like Adobe, Autodesk and Quicken. Longhorn will sell like another OS/2 at best. Intel will put AMD firmly back in their place. That's the plan. Winners Apple Intel Adobe. Losers Microsoft, AMD, Toshiba, Sony. Business as usual: HP, Dell. Apple will keep enough iApps etc to justify a premium price for their version of the Intel PC.

Megacorps like these don't move without being able to retrace their steps if it isn't working. So they want OSX Intel to leak; they want to know if it can beat Windows or not. They need it out there to find out what they haven't thought of. Right now, they haven't done the deal yet, and Apple can even go back to PowerPC if they want, putting OSX firmly back in the bag.

The reason it hasn't been announced, is that they want everyone to go crazy for as long as possible communicating in a frenzy, working out the details for free, before they lift the curtain, and reveal the new world order.

Or not.

looks like someone got offended. your simply laughable. just beacuse somebody with an opinion says something outside of what makes you warm and fuzzy with that means automatically they are "a jealous tool" huh? well i did more than "think" of the word cultist you POS. here you go ass,

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cultist

now don't you think number 5 sums up some of the posts in this thread nicely, how about number 6? seems as if your high doubt was wrong. BTW none of this is insulting to any of these users, just an observation. with the exception of you being an ass and all. OSX is Beautiful you tool.

@ IONLYUSEOSX: You're right, it has an expiration date - it just isn't in DDMMYY format. It's the fact that it uses 10.4.1, when 10.4.2 (PPC) is already developer-seeded, and - by the time the first Macintel's hit the streets - we'll be anywhere up to 10.4.5.

Let cheap PC P2P leeches get hooked on their free dime-bag, and then they can come back and either pay for the real thing on a Mac, or stick with 10.4.1 (or whatever) which is probably more stable than the Windows OS that they're using now.

Even in the worst-case scenario, that's money that Apple were never going to earn from people too cheap to pay for something that's well engineered, but the flipside is the mindshare.

@ Applesauce:

One word: Bloomfield. Not much info as yet, but the term "cores-a-plenty" is being quoted over @ endian.net, sourced from The Register.

Personally, I can't imagine having more than four cores to a processors or more than four processors in a desktop Macintosh and one processor on a laptop, so the question I have to ask myself is "Is 16 cores on a mobo enough for my desktop needs. and would four cores be enough for my mobile needs?". Given that the answer is probably Yes (let's face it, most of us are currently surviving on one effective core, and the tip of the iceberg might be lucky and have two), I'm not going to get all sniffy about why Apple decided not to take 32-cores on what is probably going to be server-only chip from AMD.

MCCFR sez: "I'm not going to get all sniffy about why Apple decided not to take 32-cores ...".

Because maybe it didn´t want to be an Apple that was rotten to the core....


Bad pun...bad pun.

Why doesn't Apple just make a bootable OSX CD for Intel PCs similar to what Knoppix (http://knoppix.org) does for
Linux? Run OSX in memory and if you really like it buy OSX.

I like the headline:

APPLE PUTS ITS TANKS ON THE LAWN IN FRONT OF THE MICROSOFT HQ

This developer version on a few million WinXP's will do more than all the TV advertising in history!

Go Apple...

So, where we can take it?
Just a joke

Statements like "No one would ever need _blank_" sounds like that famous quote about computers never needing more than 640k. Just a few years ago, who would have thought that a Mac would "need" a decent graphics card with a good sized chunk of VRAM?

Maybe Microsoft will just take the S out of OSX and instead of shipping longhorn, they'll ship OX.

I still think it's AMAZING that most of the cool features that longhorn PROMISED but aren't going to ship with is IN OSX NOW. Who KNOWS what greatness awaits us in 10.5.

As my MW magic word says, this is one heck of a "trial"

"By the time the first Macintel's hit the streets - we'll be anywhere up to 10.4.5."

Actually didn't Steve say the first Macintels would ship with Leopard?

Uh, Microsoft never did anything else. Just look at how crap their anti-copy protection schemes really are and how little they do about it.

Microsoft mustn't feel particularly threatened if it's porting Office to Macintel (unless it figures that will be its only source of income when everyone switches).

Bunk. I could just as well put a bloated File on the P2P sites with the name "MAC OSX 10.4.1 INTEL EDITION". Maybe I could make it a ripped version of an OSX DVD. But until I see it working on a PC, I call Hoax.

Listen .. Apple could give away OS X for free to all Windows users and they wouldn't use it. Doesn't anybody have a clue in here? Windows users only want two things; the same exact apps that they already have ... and speed. They don't even care about virus contamination. They are accustomed to viruses. Which of them has ever acted like it's the end of the world just cause a frightening new virus emerges on their platform? None of them. They chuckle and act like it's just another day.

When and if the Mac platform has both speed and every single one of the currently existing Windows applications ... that's when they might switch to Mac, but not before that. Windows users simply are not interested in a better OS. They don't care about that part.

Well i'm a windows user and i've been screaming for this for years. I dont know why apple has been so slow in jumping on the IBM bandwagon. True competition benifits us as consumers. The only reason i havent switched to apple is because i refuse to pay $1,700+ for a system that i can build out of Generic IBM componets for under $1000

Well, after much research on many sites that are VERY private and checking many IRC, and some very private bitorrent sites, I have not found it. I *understand* that "Mac OS X 10.4.1 8B1025" is the Intel version...reliable source. but I am yet to obtain it for testing purposes. I should just cough up the $1k for the dev kit and whatever it is for a dev membership that lets me buy it.

Try before you buy because that developer version will get no updates that will work whether you use the auto update or download an update. So sure you will be able to run the OS but it probably won't run a whole lot of software. But all you Windows users will get to know what us Mac users are raving about OSX and the iLife suite. But don't think for a second that Apple will release a full version to buy period. And when they do the full release I'm sure Apple will have some definate locks to stop anyone from running it on any PC except Apple. So have fun now because it won't last long. I suggest just buying a Mac and you will be a lot happier.

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i am far beyond ever getting into the switching argument. when you get to the point of using many computers and networking them together you are only interested in the best worker (application) for the job. all operating systems have something to learn from each other. i am really a fan of apples gui and application management. p2p applications still run better on my pc as well as gaming. just don't ever "switch" from anything... run them all, just use a remote desktop application or something. Computers are a lot like gaming consoles to me. I like all the platforms and I see no reason to give up on something when there are tools that make it easy to use everything simultaneously.

Apple shoud buy Tranist and market QuickTransit---poof!
Problems all gone.

I love you guys and that you dig and post on this so fast. Kudos.

I don't belive this has been leaked, since the developer kits haven't been sent out yet, if anyone happens to see this available anywhere could you email me? I gotta see this leaked to belive it. -_-

exactly what dimmak said! thats my take on it!

Apple have made to many advances in the last few years to do anything stupid that would jeprodise their products. I am sure every little step they have taken towards this switch has been carfully thought out. If they don't want OSX to run on a normal PC they can always put an instrcution into the chip to which will alowe OSX to run and if you don't have that instruction you can't run OSX. I am sure the amount of chips they will be buying from Intel this will not be a problem for intel. There are so many work arounds and as I siad before I doubt they have not thought about it.

I doubt many Windows users will try OSX for Intel available on internet. However there will be many geeks (i.e., IT and Wintel Developers), who will install the OS on their "test" or "spare" machines, which been collecting dust in the corner of basement. They are the ones who would benefit (and also who Apple wants) trying the developer version of OSX.

One question I have is who leaked OSX for Intel to the internet? I doubt too many people has the release. Is it Adobe or Microsoft? I doubt it. If it is one of their employee, why wait until after the SJ presentation? I don't think people who got $999 developer kit would, since I don't think anyone has received it yet. Which leaves Apple.

This is a great way to distribute OSX to geeks. For one, they think they are getting something for free and doing it behind Apple's back. They will spend more time with the OSX than if Apple has mailed them CDs/DVD for free. They are less likely to complain about problems with drivers (or lack of), since they are "illegally" running OSX on their commodity PC boxes (which Apple does not need or want). On top of it, the cost of distribution is negligible. Don't even need to pay big bucks to Akami for downloads, since the OSX will be distributed through the underground distributed download servers.

Obviously, the release version of OSX will only run on Apple's intel based computer, so majority of people will have to Mac to run the computer. I would not be surprised if OSX released to internet has code to disable the OS after 2006 (may be a message pops up to remind them to send the developer back to Apple)?

ok ive gone everywhere i could think of to download it i really want it
this will be cool if this will run on my pc
BYE BYE WINDOWS
seriously can anyone help me get it

Well... to be quite honest, I think this is a hoax... or a premature posting of news..

HP notebook
http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=531466

http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=531473

The hp notebook shows nothing. I see a windows taskbar. Besides, i can show the exact same thing on my windows machine using pearpc. Anybody can run mac os x on a windows machine using an emulator. (aka pearpc)

Here is my example:
http://home.comcast.net/~dannyboyil/osx.JPG

Wow, that was the crappest I've seen, the fact that there is still a windows taskbar there makes me laugh, try again stupid. =)

I don't want all u lot to use Mac OS X, u should continue suffering by using your xp, that's wot u deserve, and leave us real mac people doing our stuff, who will we laugh at if everyone uses Mac OS X, everytime we see a silly winDoZZZZer we have a good giggle n it makes us feel nice.

So sod off n stick to your xp or linux hohoho

PowerBook User - sophisticated advanced cybernomadic being

Ha, you seem to think you're clever but I've spoke to 12 year olds who type and speak better than you.
I am a doze user because it's all I know, and I don't want to spend silly ammounts of money on something I could end up not getting on with, and getting to apple shops etc is out of the question due too lack of travel.

The chance to try out this OS could be the make or break on many peoples decissions to switch. If I get hold of this I will use it, and if I like it I will be purchasing an Intel Mac when they come out.

I agree... if anyone has any solid proof, show me. So far (after searching for 10 minutes) i don't see it anywhere. wouldn't it be pretty damn wide spread on the p2p networks by now? if anyone acutally spots it in the wild, let me know.

Calm down the lot of you the dev kits aint even out yet

Can any one say FAKE?!

And as for whoever posted the hp pic, didn't you notice you still have your windows taskbar showing?! You pnarse!

Just because the dev kits aren't out doesn't mean an employe with access to it, or someone handling the shipping of the dev kits couldn't of released it.
__IF__ it is out, it'll be fairly secret and circling the big groups/being tested before any of the groups decide to release it.

No, really, we don't want u to have it. Infact I'm checking my places now and If I find I'm going to report them to Apple. I'd rather pay extra thousands to Apple for a machine then let all u winDozzzer scum use it - we like our little mac underworld. Don't need the winDozzzzer scum brigade in.

PowerBook User - sophisticated advanced cybernomadic being

Can anybody confirm if this pic is using pear pc as well.
http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6448/osxonintel5wg.jpg

http://img173.echo.cx/img173/6448/osxonintel5wg.jpg

Where ever you got that from, ask the person for a closer shot of the properties window, that will tell us for sure. =)

For all we know he's just fullscreened some OS X screenshot he found anywhere.

It wouldn't take a genius to replace the text in the About This Mac window with 'HAH RUNNING ON AMD CHIP U LAMORZ' either as if it was some sort of proof that he's got it running on any old pc.

Not that it matters all that much if a few geeks get OS X running somewhat (useless for real computing, for a start it's gonna run 99% of software through the PPC emulator so slow as hell), not to mention the lack of support or updates that will severly cripple such a setup.

Would be fun to play about with, but I don't think apple are going to sweat if it's leaked!

Anyone serious about running OS X will buy a mac (or macintel) which comes with a genuine copy...

It would be easy to edit the ATM window in a screenshot, but in an actual photograph it wouldn't be as simple. =)

When it comes down to it, the only way i will believe that it's real is when i see it on my own machine.

Man Powerbookuser, you need to cool it. You type as if "YOU" own Apple. I am sure that "YOU" don't so chill. If people want to use multiple OS's let 'em. I personally use Win2k, XP, (3) different distros of Linux and Mac OS X. It just makes me much smarter than those that stick with just one OS. I can only speak for myself, but if I want to use Mac OS X and I pay for it with the money that I have earned, there isn't a "THING" that you can say about it so grow up guy or gal.