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That's cool.
Not sure Apple will get this much into politics, but hey, if AMEX does it, why not?

Scott

Great cause, and great color!

Wheel could be white, black, or red. If it was a nano I might have to get one.

And U2 has done stuff with Apple before.

If stopping AIDS is politics to you, maybe you are the one too much into politics

SB, this isn't about politics, this is about people.

Hats off to Bono for getting Red mobilised and for getting major multinationals on board. Product Red is the best way to raise awareness on a global scale to the plague of HIV in southern Africa, and keep it in people's minds. Every time you go shopping, you'll see something branded as Red. It's powerful and it's in your face. Brilliant.

I'll be very glad if Apple are buying into this. How about a Red iMac too?

doesn't really look as nice as the other U2 iPod...it's a bit too red for me, but maybe something the ladies would buy?

At least it's for a good cause.

Sounds good to me, but why not yellow? There's lots of Livestrong bracelets out there in yellow all over the world. It seems that yellow would be the first color to think of when thinking about charity for a health cause.

now all I need is a red rag and I can claim XIV!! -- stupid.

But wait a minute.. I want, ...no make that -need- a blue one.

That rendering is way too cherry red for comfort.

HIV doesn't cause AIDS anyway.

Ah, SB what is "political" about saving lives from a deadly disease?

Just wondering?

If you don't think AIDS is political, you're high.
I suggest getting your heads outta the sand...
If it didn't affect mostly poor, gay, and minority victims, it would have likely been cured by now.

And, as long as you're talking out of your a$$e$, my wife and I donated $10k this year on our aunt's behalf to AIDS research.

Dumbasses.

SB

Apple isn't going to do this of course because that would be a good thing for Mr Jobs to do, and according to Leander Kahney at Wired, Jobs is an evil overlord who wants nothing to do with charity.

http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70072-0.html?tw=wn_index_22

"If you don't think AIDS is political, you're high. [...] If it didn't affect mostly poor, gay, and minority victims, it would have likely been cured by now."

You obviously know nothing. Do you even know what causes AIDS? Do you know medicine's track record against curing viruses? If you think it hasn't been cured because of politics, you're just revealing you're stupidity to the world.

Stamp it out in one generation.

AIDS Cure exsist

Blood-Electrification

In recent years, different electro-medicine units have been promoted at health expos and through magazine articles, interviews, books, etc.. One of the more interesting devices is the blood electrifier of Dr Bob Beck. I've seen laboratory reports and Institutional Review Board studies that seem to clearly support claims made by Dr BobBeck that his blood electrification device has caused ‘complete spontaneous remission' in literally thousands of AIDS patients, cancer patients, and chronic fatigue sufferers among others. Dr Beck discovered the possibilities offered by blood electrification after reading a short article in 1991 in a journal called Science News.

The Discovery
In the Fall of 1990, two researchers, Drs William Lyman and Steven Kaali, working at Albert Einstein Medical College in New York City made an important discovery. They found that they could inactivate the HIV virus by applying a low voltage direct current electrical potential with an extremely small current flow to AIDS infected blood in a test tube. Initially, they discovered this in the lab by inserting two platinum electrodes into a glass tube filled with HIV-1 (type 1) infected blood. They applied a direct current to the electrodes and found that a current flow in the range of 50-100 microamperes (uA) produced the most effective results. Practically all of the HIV viral particles were adversely affected while normal blood cells remained unharmed. The viral particles were not directly destroyed by the electric current, but rather the outer protein coating of the virus was affected in such a way as to prevent the virus from producing reverse transcriptase, a necessary enzyme needed by the virus to invade human cells. Reverse transcriptase allows the virus to enter a human T cell line (called CEM-SS) and commandeer the DNA reproduction machinery. After using the host cell to reproduce itself into thousands of new virii, the swollen host cell (now called syncytia or giant cell) will burst and spew the contents into the bloodstream or lymph system. This is how the virus spreads, but lacking reverse transcriptase, the HIV virus can't invade the host cell and it becomes vulnerable to destruction by the body's immune system. (The details of this experiment can be read from Kaali's patent application.)

Getting the Word Out?

http://educate-yourself.org/fc/

"And, as long as you're talking out of your a$$e$, my wife and I donated $10k this year on our aunt's behalf to AIDS research."

It's classy people like this that keep me coming back to this retarded web page.

The reason that Bono is considered to be political is that he is a human rights activist. Often times in politics, issues boil down to human rights vs profit. In order to champion human rights, one always runs into opponents who are more concerned with money, and these opponents tend to have political ties.

To label Bono as being "political" is to say that you prioritize personal wealth over human rights. Pretty much.

You know, if you are raising awareness, raising money or raising hell, and you do it on anything other than a one-to-one basis then you are doing it for yourself. Bono could raise more money out of his own pocket and among his peers than from his grandstanding public profile if raising money were his only objective.

And anyone with a Ferrari will buy one too!

Please check Duesberg's website, if he is right...

Which begs the question...

What's Black and White and Red all over?


Three iPods in a blender.


your turn...

I want one in 'Granny Smith' green...

From the Congressional Report on Aides Spending:

"Federal government AIDS spending is estimated at $18.5 billion in FY2004. The Bush Administration request for FY2005 is $19.8 billion. Of the total
amount spent by the federal government on HIV/AIDS in FY2004, the majority (63%) of funding is for treatment programs; funding for research receives 16% of the total (see Figure 1 and Table 3). The remaining amounts are for prevention programs (12%) and income support for persons with AIDS (9%)."

$38 BILLION in the last two years alone. How much is enough before people stop accusing others of hating poor, gay and minorities. Answer: there is never enough for some.

"Which begs the question..."

No it doesn't. Begging the question has a specific meaning in logic, and this is not it. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Love Bono. Noble cause. Bloody awful color.

To many right-wing politicians and religious evangelists, HIV/AIDS is god's punishment against those with more liberal sexual philosophies than their own. They promote this view in order to use the epidemic as a political tool to unite the fundamentalist christian base in fear of those scary homosexuals. Once they have their people united in fear, they can get them to do pretty much anything.

And I don't think too many people will want a red iPod. Too gaudy, makes it look cheap. Red shiny plastic makes me think of 1986.

"Spark" is right. It's getting bloody well enough money even now.

Personally, I think "AIDS" has always existed. We just didn't have the medical understanding or technological sophistication to be able to classify all the different maladies that AIDS causes as, well, . . . AIDS.

Anyway, I think it's interesting to note that if "AIDS" didn't exist, many health experts say that they would classify Lyme Disease as the number one public health threat instead.

Something to ponder.

misanthrope

Two points regarding your post:-

1) It's not just about raising money, it's about raising awareness.

2) This isn't about a big donation. It's about establishing a permanent income stream.

And SB, you told your Aunt where to send her money? Well, you're up there with Bill Gates in generosity, aren't you.

I'm so sick of Bono I could freaking puke.

SB:
"If it didn't affect mostly poor, gay, and minority victims, it would have likely been cured by now."

1. You left out children.

2. Blacks in Africa are the majority, they are not "minorities" there.

3. There's no "cure" for the influenza virus which effects pretty much everyone, so there's no reason to expect there would be a "cure" for the AIDS virus regardless of who it effected. Viruses are very, very difficult to combat, especially ones that lay dormant for a long time, and mutate like the AIDS virus does.

that's the ugliest iPod I've ever seen.

treating aids is about politics.

and money.

and awareness.

and religion.

and minorities.

and africa. ( yes, it mostly effects blacks in africa. youthink if it mostly effected whites in North america there still wouldn't be a cure? )

yes, virals are hard to cure, but they can be difinitively treated. flu vaccines work....but aids is much harder.

38 billion over two years is nothing. Iraq costs 177 million a day. but at the same time millions die of heart attacks, and yet you an still buy a big mac.

what we spend on health care in the US is nothing. yet people pay fortunes to HMO's and get lousy care.

Bono could probably donate more then he gets raised, but you cant put a price on awareness. and he is high profile.

there, I should have pissed off everyone now, feel free to shoot the innocent bystander.

twilight moon:

Yes, I left out children, but they're in all of the above groups.
Blacks are the majority in Africa, but that's not where the money comes from - it comes mostly from "white" America.
And look at those numbers from the Bush administration - surely represents the evil, hateful right, doesn't it?
Look no further than lovely Billy Clinton who stood by and watched Rwandans get slaughtered...compassionate and intelligent liberals? LMAO.


DaveH:

You take the cake - another 19 year old living at home that knows so much...
Well son, no, see, my aunt was gay and just died at 100. We did if "for" her after she passed last fall.
Idiot.

SB

you're absolutely right, innocent bystander

If you go to http://www.costofwar.com and click "Aids Epidemic" you can see that if we used all of the money we wasted on the war in Iraq so far, we could have fully funded AIDS research and treatment for 23 years! The cost of AIDS research is very small compared to what we're spending in Iraq. But there's not enough oil in Africa to warrant the US investing that much funding there (from this admin, at least).

"HIV doesn't cause AIDS anyway."

I tire of that statement.

Serious Question:
Can you get full-blown AIDS without first getting HIV? I don't know of a single case where someone got AIDS without first getting the HIV virus. It is the HIV virus that casues AIDS - you can't get AIDS without FIRST becoming HIV+. If I am missing something, please explain. Seriously, maybe I am being ignorant on this issue. My understanding is that HIV is an ABSOLUTE prerequisite to AIDS and that you can't get AIDS with out first becoming HIV+. If I am wrong, please explain - seriously.

If Apple wants to offer a red iPod wth part of the proceeds going to AIDS research, then more power to 'em. Any help is better than no help at all.....

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Murder junkie,

I am a paramedic, and in school it came up frequently.

yes. in order to have AIDS, you have to be HIV+ first.

some people are HIV+ and never get AIDS.

the problem is they can't definitively prove that the two are related. there is no actual link that is currently proved between the two.

there is alot of anecdotal evidence.

this is a major debate. I don't know the answer.

Ib.

Yeah, and don't forget all the tobacco exec's that testified in front of Congress under oath that tobacco smoking doesn't cause lung cancer...

Good lord.

Yep, as some people have already caught on… that picture is actually from Colorware. It's the Ferrari red "painted" iPod.

Still think it would be cool though. I'm a big fan of bright red.

We all live at home SB. That's why it's called home.

And you think I'm 19? Well, I'm truly flattered. It just goes to show what a good skincare regime can achieve.

You're still wrong though. Product Red is about people, not politics. HIV hasn't been cured, but then neither has influenza. I hope you're equally indignatious about that multiple strain quickly mutating family of viruses still being able to kill people. No? Why am I not surprised?

And don't try patronising me SB. Not until you've come up with a cohesive argument that satisfies your original idiotic presumption anyway.

Dave, Dave, Dave.

I don't need to argue. AIDS is political, like it or not. Why? Because some people associate it with the "evil gay people" that get and spread it.
You don't see many of the same people with "Support our troops" stickers on their cars sporting AIDS ribbons, do you?
Why? because some folks see this as a "different" disease that "those people" get.
Are you that blind? I'm not saying I agree with these boneheads, just that the topic of AIDS is way different than let's say, breast cancer.

I like the idea. I have an AMEX card, and 7 iPods in my house.
I'll get my RED AMEX and a RED iPod!

I support it. Quit trying to use your liberal mind-bending tactics to twist what I'm saying.

innocent bystander:
RE:AIDS

"the problem is they can't definitively prove that the two are related. there is no actual link that is currently proved between the two."

I would have to say that they must believe there is some causal link considering one (HIV+) is a prerequisite for the other (AIDS).....Although like you said, some people get HIV and never develop full-blown AIDS. But I would venture to guess this is possibly a minority of the cases (I don't know the stats and I am not a Doctor)

Thanks for the info though......

SB

I see. The bumper sticker thing gives it away. You're an American, and we are approaching this from different starting points and will never agree. I will concede that from your perspective HIV is political, because everything in the USA is polarised. In my opinion it's not a healthy system, and I think it prevents a lot of progress, especially when it spawns ignorance like in the example you describe. But there's nothing I can do to change that.

Here in England the big switch in people's attitudes to AIDS happened when Freddie Mercury died. People didn't condemn as the press expected, they sympathised. Fifteen years later, and HIV is not the gay plague it was percieved as in the 80s. Infection rates in Africa are the big problem as we see it now, but we don't see it in a distant way. The Bliar Government and it's grandstanding about debt relief and cheap antiretroviral drugs is in response to a massive upswell of pressure from the British people.

I don't know, maybe we just feel responsible for Africa, having caused so many problems there in the past. But when the pressure to act comes from the people it outweighs mere politics.

Product Red will go down a storm here. It will raise an enormous amount of money, and keep the message fresh in people's minds. It's a great thing, and it's going to help a lot of people across the world.

BTW, I'm sorry for my flippant comment earlier about your donation. Sometimes I should think more before clicking the Submit button.

Dave H.

If you had explained that you are in the UK, it might have saved us all a bit of back-and-forth.
In the US, we are hugely divided at this moment in time.
Left vs. Right and a lot of us in the middle somewhere.

My POV was of the situation, not my feelings.
To name more examples here:

1) Morning-after pill
2) Death penalty
3) Assisted suicide

Those aren't politics, but are certainly politically-charged topics.

We're different here, I guess. Whether it's good or bad, I can't answer, but trust me, my opinions are based in observation, not my feelings.

Freddy Mercury was one of my all-time favorites, and I saw Queen in Pittsburgh in the 70's. It remains one of my favorite memories.

Hopefully, we're in better understanding of one another now.

SUBMIT LOL

SB

its not going to be a regular sized ipod, it will be a red ipod nano.