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Obviously SONY see Microsoft as an ally in the war against Apple. It would not surprise me if they dropped the ATRAC format in favor of WMA. Such a move may encourage some Windows users not to buy an iPod but it could also lead to a boycott of these not-quite-CDs by some iPod users.

Why do we find it acceptable to purchase music online that has DRM in it yet we don't find it acceptable to purchase a CD with copy protection? I refuse to buy a "CD" that is copy protected or has DRM yet I've bought hundreds of songs off of iTunes.

So, informed, you're telling me that if you find a CD that has only one or two songs you want, you're still going to pay upwards of $20 for it?

Send Sony/BMG and the RIAA a letter informing them that you will NOT be purchasing ANY CDs that contain this form of DRM. Sony will be familiar with 'fair use' rights--the BetaMax case involved people recording TV for their personal use back in the day. If they will not let you buy the music in a lossless, non-DRM format tell the to stick their stacks of unsold CDs up their a*s.

IS THAT PLAIN ENOUGH?

If I can't use a CD or a Music Store song the way I want I will get it somewhere else. Anyone know any good peer 2 peer programs for mac ? Isn't that what the big boys are trying to combat ?

What is this thing you call "Pay"?

Anyone with enough time to post on this page has enough time to find any song for free. P2P on macs might be a problem, I dunno. The moral problem of taking the bread out the mouth of otherwise overfed "talent" has never been a problem for me.

It's not FairPlay that is wanted, its FairPrice. The CD's/DVDs cost nothing to produce and we all know that. If CD's are priced reasonably then why bother to copy.

Double J:

The only CDs I've bought in the last 10 years that were "upwards of $20" were DTS discs. Where do you buy music?

Try J&R;. They beat Amazon 85% of the time.
http://www.jr.com/JRSectionView.process?Section_Path=/Music/

The vast majority of J&R;'s music is under $14. I just bought 3 for $5.99 each.

And I don't buy CDs that only have one or two good songs on them. That is a sign that the band in question sucks.

Go Audio Hijack. Hint Hint.

So I wonder what happens if you connect a cd player to a USB preamp which is then connected to your computer. Hmmm, have to run this past some of my sound engineer mates, shouldn't be too difficult. It sound like a minor challenge. Dont boycott the cds, bust them instead.

"You could still play the CD on your stereo and record it through line in with an iMic. A bit more cumbersome, and it would have to be done in real time but it is doable."

Oh that is so last decade.
Here's a hint:
Record your own AUDIO so they don't HIJACK your wallet.

this is so bogus. this would only cause people to download from iTMS. it's cheaper anyways

This is just another new set of handcuffs in a key making store and the armtwisting just sends more people to illegal sites first and the iTunes music store second. It actually promotes music downloads as opposed to purchasing CD's in the store. But I wonder if it sends people to SonyConnect?...I doubt it.

One more reason to stop buying those primitive CD's!

It has already been cracked. Can't talk about it much, don't want legal hounds after me, but you will see more about this soon.

Fuckem

I hope you read some of the posts about getting around this "problem".

The methods are:

1. Use Audio Hijack or the pro version for more goodies and/or,

2. Plug your portable cd player into the line in on a preamp or direct
into your line in into your computer and the music should be
copyright free.

Of course you could not buy the suckers but getting around the problem is a better option because you still get to enjoy the music and you communicate to Sony that there resistance is futile. (My apologies to Star Strek's Borg for the last phrase.)

OK now back to digitising those 1200 vinyl albums we have.

Yes Sony I can do that as well. You dish it up and within 36 hours the problem is overcome. Stupid bastards.

The last time I put a copy protected disc in my mac iTunes couldn't rip it. So I opened it in a finder window and there were the aiff files....seemed too easy to me. Y'all should try it out

Actually iTunes ripped it, but the songs skipped and studdered. That's whne I opened the finder. I copied the tracks in and control clicked on them and chose convert selection to mp3 and it was done....