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I don't trust that fat ass!

I seem to remember Apple had a hard time getting OS X to delivery also. In the early nineties there was a discussion of Windows NT3, which was capable of running OS7 (?) and then the Copland tragedy and finally the triumphant return of Steve and 5more years before 10.2 ( The first truly complete and stable version of OSX) Not to mention the various upgrades of the ever aging "Classic" system. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mac OS, but there were dark days then also, and Apple survived. Unfortunately, so might Microsoft.

Well of course there won't be any more long gaps because Vista will be the end of MicroS#it!

I won't ever drink that much again, I will come home earlier tonight, I will

pay that bill on time in the future, I will be a nicer guy next time, my next

car will be more practical, I am going to start working harder at my job,

I plan to call my Mom more often, I will fertilize the lawn earlier next year,


blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

windows vista will be stayed for a long time near the future because Ms don't have more creative idea to develop its own. basically it depend on how mac os x will go. you know, they will copy it again. that's why windows os has been never released before mac os x. they need time to copy, copy. but product looks poor, lame, too. that's very weird. after Bill Gates, MS will face with lack of creation idea, then turn to completely different company. it won't be software company anymore. Ballmer? this guy is just business manager of MS, is not a leader or anything. he will screw MS up more.

Pledging shorter wait time? Why don't they jsut say we are going to work harder so that you'll have to upgrade your stuff more often. I don't know why anyone would think this is a good thing.

and Schmutz, most of that stuff happenned Pre-steve2.0 so it doesn't count. Once Apple had their OSX strategy, it pretty much went like it should have. I would also argue tha Apple switching from OS9 to OSX was a far harder task than some company just paving overtop of the roadkill code they've had for years.

There is a fundamental difference between the casual Windows user and the Mac user. For Windows users the whole computer experience is just one necessary pain in the neck that must be put up with because the job says use a computer.

The typical Mac user on the other hand actually loves his or her computer and the whole experience of using and being creative with the hardware and software. Often called the "wow" factor, it's real. And most PC users just don't get it. To them a computer is just a thing they have to put up with - a thing that mostly annoys them.

This difference can lead to some interesting observations. For one, millions of people putting up with delay after delay of the next shitty operating system.

Or this, I watched a guy drop his Dell laptop on the parking lot pavement of a motel I was staying at one morning. He sighed and said to me, "forgot to zip the case." The damn thing lay there in pieces! If it had been me and my nice new MacBook I would have cried. Him, sigh, oh I dropped the damned thing!

There will never be so long a gap because:

A) Vista will be such a disappoint that Microsoft will implode, hence never another Windows, or

B) Vista will never make it at all.

"Well, Victor, the bank would like to congratulate you.
On the fastest freefall since the Depression. We can't
even give your stock away." -- from FANTASTIC FOUR

I think they shot themselves in the foot. Definately not the moon by a long shot! I don't think anyone knows what they really ended up with either after six years of working on it. I seems to me that after all the cut features it's looking more like XP SP3 with more bugs than fixes.

I think they shot themselves in the foot. Definately not the moon by a long shot! I don't think anyone knows what they really ended up with either after six years of working on it. It seems to me that after all the cut features it's looking more like XP SP3 with more bugs than fixes.

"Microsoft Corp.'s customers will never again face as long a wait between new versions of Windows software as they're enduring now" chief executive Steve Ballmer vowed Tuesday.

"...because after Vista's release, there won't be another. I'm off back to the Adams Family." Ballmer added.*








*Actually, I made that last bit up. But you can hope...

Is that because there woin't *be* any more Windows releases?

And we can produce EVEN more shite with a really crappy MP3 player in between XP SP releases...

What a joke that company is. I hope thay can take a step back from it and see how it looks from the perspective of the rest of the world...
I suppose the only rest of the world they ever meet are folk who grovel to them for a piece of their wealth and who would never tell them as it is.

Yes, I am convinced that Vista Service Pack 1

will be delivered in a timely fashion.

"Microsoft Corp.'s customers will never again face as long a wait between new versions of Windows software as they're enduring now"

Is that a threat?

Thank you MDN...for not posting monkeyboy's picture. I was afraid to click the link.

I've been reluctant to buy a Mac because they're expensive, but the other night my daughter, who is 9, started getting pop ups on her screen while she was working on a paint program. She called me over and it was porn. Well, that was enough... I went out to the apple store and bought a Macbook Pro and a 20" Imac. The interesting part is this, I was looking at the G5 powermacs to replace my old 400mhz G4 but the saleman that was helping me told me to wait till August. Interesting...

Thanks, Connor - exactly what I was thinking!

Well if they start working on adding the features that they've deleted and then issue a new release when each of those originally promised features is finally implemented, Ballmer's promise might actually come true.

South Africa is in the southern hemisphere

Hey!!!! Wait a minute!!! Isn't Bill Gates speaking from South Africa? in the southern hemisphere?

Every thing spins backwards south of the equator so what Bill is really saying is that there is an 80% chance that Vista WILL ARRIVE EVEN LATER.

Let's get that spin right!!

Ihatewindows,

It is worth a little more money for sure.

It is unfortunate that something like

that had to happen to your child for

you too make the switch. Welcome to

the enlightened.

Spread The Word

"I can go through the history of how we got through here, but just count on it. We will never have this kind of gap again"

"Ted Schadler, an analyst from Forrester Research, said Ballmer was "selling hard" in pledging shorter wait times for future versions of Windows,"

MS, Ballmer, Gates, et al:

Don't "promise", "sell", or ask us to "count" on you.

Don't get all melodramatic in vowing that you'll do so much better next time.

JUST GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER *NOW* AND DELIVER THE DAMNED GOODS!

Because right now your credibility is shot. Promises of better times ahead rings like your empty & broken promises of hot new Longhorn/Vista features and OS ship dates. By now nobody believes you even know WTF you're talking about.

'Count on it,' Ballmer said. 'I can go through the history of how we got through here, but just count on it. We will never have this kind of gap again,

LIER LIER YOUR SWEATY ASS IS ON FIRE, MONKEYBOY UNCLE FESTER LOOKALIKE

*farts in the wind going to Redmond*

Come on people. I'm a Mac lover and for years I have preached "get an Mac and enjoy using your computer" to Windows using folks. My experience has been that 90 percent of the people I talk to are happy with their MS equipped machines. They may not know any better, but they are happy enough not to even check out the Mac.

I don't get paid to sell Apple products and so it is not worth alienating friends by implying they are dumb asses for using Windows.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Thomas,

This article was about timely Windows releases.

What the hell is your point?

interesting that he is making vows about the next next version of windows 6 or more months before the next version ships. Appalling, really.

I thinks it is quite remarkable that M$ hasn't lost more market share. . . I mean really, it's not that Apple is so good, (I would expect the things I can do with my Mac to be available in the year 2006), it's that microsoft is so BAD. Apple is basically doing "it's job," and looks fantastic, because Redmond has f'd up to such a degree.

No more delays now that the chief software architect has got his backside fired.

Effectively Balmer is laying the blame on Gates for all the delays.

No more gates = no more delays.

Looks like Bill's the whiping boy and he hasn't even stepped out the door yet!

>LIER LIER YOUR SWEATY ASS IS ON FIRE, MONKEYBOY UNCLE FESTER LOOKALIKE>

Another California graduate. L--I--A--R

My point is that bashing MS for any reason on this site is preaching to the converted. Why so much interest in how badly MS is performing? It will not make a lot of difference in the big scheme.

I completely forgot about Winblows Pista because I spent all day downloading my 18 patches for XP. It really wasn't so bad, only five of the patches were critical. The Lemmings never cease to amaze me. I only wish I had enough boxes and dog $h1t so that I could be competing with XP.

I suspect the only way the next generation Windows will NOT take longer to gestate will require Microsoft to adopt a "clean sheet of paper" approach. The legacy that is the mountains of old code that few really understand, the paradigms that should have been abandoned long ago (C:\ anyone?), the ongoing requirement that everything old is still to be supported, is a crushing legacy.

As Apple did when it migrated to a UNIX base foundation, Microsoft needs to break the legacy shackles and start over. Maybe Singularity will be the base, maybe something none of us will have heard of. I say this not because I want Microsoft to succeed, but because their failure to deliver quality product is hurting those using their stuff.

As an aside, were Microsoft to do the honorable thing (yeah, and pigs fly), it would credit the payments received under Software Assurance during which time they delivered, essentially, nothing.

While vista drags on and on, my windows friends are taking advantage of the boot camp revolution. I just switched my 11th friend today, she bought a 17 imac from the anaheim store, and got the free ipod and hp printer to boot. We set her up and she's happy as can be.

Funny thing is, while we were waiting for her software updates to finish downloading, a 12th friend called me about buying an imac for his cousin in africa. He's taking over a complete video editing suite and wants it user friendly.

We're purchasing a 20" imac for him, and a second 20" imac for his cousin tonight.

Most want windows just because of Outlook. We run bootcamp simply for that.

Amazing.

13 and counting in the last 3 months.

Thomas,

You may be right, and yes a lot of us

do spend a bit of time "preaching" in

vain. Perhaps it will not make a big

difference in the scheme of things,

but 10% marketshare would be nice.

You said 90% of your peers are happy

with a Win machine. Apple wants the

other 10%

set sail

Once upon a time, there lived a fat man in Redmond, Washington who had a tendency to stretch the truth. Okay, sometimes he would flat out lie or "cry wolf". All of the people in the town got sick of the fat man and his sweaty towel, and especially his fibbing. One day the fat, sweaty man screamed "Wait, people. I promise never to be late with a product again!", but the people just laughed or ignored him, and walked away. While elsewhere in the town, the people gathered to listen to a new man, a great man, with great vision, and he gave the people what they wanted when they wanted it. Every once in a while, he even gave them a bit more than they expected, and this was refreshing. The people in the town forgot about old, fat, sweaty man and embraced the ideas and products of the new man, and everyone lived happily ever after.

©2006 . All Rights Reserved.

Ballmer's strained admission of failure seems to indicate that he is begging PC users not to switch to Mac.

PC user: You’ve been humping that whore of an excuse for how long?

Ballmer: I’m sorry, baby. She don’t mean nothin’ to me, honest.

PC user: What about all your promises, huh?

Ballmer: I’ll be better, sugar, you’ll see.

PC user: I just can’t trust you anymore.

Ballmer: C’mon, baby. I love you. I’ll give you free upgrades.

PC user: I don’t know.

Ballmer: It won’t happen ever again, I mean it.

Nice, rasterbator! Was that from a dream?

BTW, IAFOOMCLSHWIRTAT!

Please tell me how in the HELL MS is going to release Vista for coporations in Dec. and will not to customers until Jan.....nope Mar....nope...or whenever!?...totally BS!!!

There will never be another Windows new version, only SPs that will not be called service packs. They'll come with some fancy name, throw in one or two new features (copied from OS X) and sell it like "Hey! This is the new Windows! It rocks! You must have it!".
But it won't really be a new Windows. Funny thing is that with so much manpower and cash in the bank they can't make a fresh OS from the ground up, this is simply unbelievable.

Yeah, Right!

And all is well in Iraq too.

Just saying it - doesn't make it so.

"SPs that will not be called service packs"

Actually, they will be called cervix packs. A little more honest description of how much the user is screwed. And a possible new revenue stream for MS.

whomever:

I agree! When was the last time M$ came up with something new and original on their own?

(tick tock tick tock tick tock)

Can't build it... beg, borrow, buy, or outright steal it. That is the foundation for Longhorn/Vista/XP-SP2.5

MDN: What, no mugshot of Uncle Fester to go with the story? I'm disappointed.

Raymond from DC -

.. "As Apple did when it migrated to a UNIX base foundation, Microsoft needs to break the legacy shackles and start over."

That is what MS tried to do with Longhorn, the user based balked, it would have required repurchasing the software they already had. MS caved. Most PC uesrs will simply live with it. They can be more zealous than Mac users, that is the only way i can explain paying for protection software from the company that caused the problems to begin with. I think they wear it like a badge.

"Microsoft Corp.'s customers will never again face as long a wait between new versions of Windows"
In other words, never again go so long without charging you upgrade fees.

How about making a promise that counts like. . .

"Microsoft Corp.'s customers will never again be sold an OS that is second best in quality and reliability!"



MW - "indeed"

Joke.

The guy is a joke.

Well, a guess a bad joke.

When will this train wreck of a "CEO" end?

YET ANOTHER OFFICEMAC SECURITY UPDATE!!!

See you stupid OfficeMac using FOOLS!!! you just can't use anything from M$.

They always leave holes, ALWAYS!! Meaning your machine gets compromised.

It's just the Microsoft way, insecurity by design, neglect and stupidity

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/autoupdate/description/auoffice20041125en.htm

PigLipstick

LOL

Confirmed: Woodcrest to power new Apple Mac PRO!

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1877

"'This time they really shot for the moon,'"

The only "moon" I hope Balmer sees is Steve Jobs butt pressed to the window of his Cupertino office as Billy & Balmer walk by.

Yea! Hooray! Steve Ballmer throws in the towel. NO MORE WINDOWS UPDATES EVER!

Yea?