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Forbes online poll: which company makes the best personal computers?
Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:40 AM EDT

Forbes is running an online poll, "Which Company Makes The Best Personal Computers?"

IBM introduced the original personal computer back in 1981. Three years later, Lenovo Group brought the first PCs to China. Fast-forward a couple of decades, and a PC revolution has occurred. Computers are as commonplace as TV sets in households worldwide, and Lenovo is buying IBM's PC division for $1.75 billion.

Yet now there is a plethora of PC manufacturers from which to choose--not to mention Apple Computer, whose Macintosh computers are often touted as being anti-PC. One fierce competitor is industry leader Dell, which yesterday announced record-setting fourth-quarter sales.

So we ask you, who makes the best personal computers?


Apple is currently leading with 36%. Vote by clicking the link below. You know what to do.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2005/02/11/cx_jp_0211polldujour.html

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Feb 11, 05 - 12:44 pm Comment from: emmayche

Duh.

Feb 11, 05 - 12:49 pm Comment from: Frank

As of 11:47 AM EST, Apple leads with 36% followed by Dell and HP tied at 20%.

Feb 11, 05 - 12:53 pm Comment from: macnut222

I thought Apple introduced the original personal computer in 1977 with the Apple ][.

Feb 11, 05 - 12:55 pm Comment from: bonsai

As of 11:55am Apple is at 37%

Feb 11, 05 - 12:57 pm Comment from: bonsai

forgot to mention Apple is still in the lead over others.

Feb 11, 05 - 12:58 pm Comment from: Dave H

38%. Climbing faster than Apple stock grin

Feb 11, 05 - 12:58 pm Comment from: focker

22 votes in a minute, beat that

Feb 11, 05 - 01:09 pm Comment from: freebee

Someone posted this over at spymac.com... went up to 38% about a minute afterwards.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:12 pm Comment from: theloniusMac

I tried to vote and it crashed my computer.
I swear!
Firefox hung, I force quit it, and got a kernel panic!

It's fixed! The vote is fixed!

Feb 11, 05 - 01:13 pm Comment from: MacMan

Up to 40% at 12:12.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:15 pm Comment from: yurk

Apple at 40%

Feb 11, 05 - 01:15 pm Comment from: ndelc

IBM should credit for making the PC fire spread but Apple should get the credit for starting it. Had it not been for the Apple I & II, IBM may never have gotten into the PC business, or at least not when they did.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:23 pm Comment from: Lurker PC

MY first post.

Apple - 2542 votes (40%)
Dell - 1193 votes (19%)

Magic Word - any - as in I can't think of 'any'thing to say regarding the magic word. grin

Feb 11, 05 - 01:24 pm Comment from: HuskerMac

This is stunning considering the fact that only 3% of computer users use Apple Computers. Nevertheless, they have hands down the best operating system and superior hardware. Windows users don't understand what they are missing.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:31 pm Comment from: M. T. MacPhee

This pole is great news. It will be an eye-opener for many to find that a 1.8% market share company is regarded by >40% of the population as the leader. In doing this, it shows how shallow the market share figures are: how could 1.8% of the population sway a poll so remarkably? (Of course, they won't know about the Mac web, but we don't need to tell them about that). Finally, this is Forbes, not, for instance, the Daytona Beach News-Journal.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:31 pm Comment from: trskrap

I vote for Apple. My first computer was an Apple Macintosh purchased in 1985. I've only owned Apples ever since then.

My work computers (as an engineer) have always been IBM or IBM Clones. I still get a thrill when I go home and fire up my 2 year old Macintosh G4 (with the hemispherical base and floating flat panel streen).

Feb 11, 05 - 01:37 pm Comment from: DakRoland

Apple at 42% as of right now.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:38 pm Comment from: Kevin

Apple's up to 42% as of 12:35 pm ET. Dell's next with 18% and HP's at 17%.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:40 pm Comment from: Tommy Boy

Stop with this 1.8% market share crap.

Apple has a 1.8% market share in the entire world.

Apple's market share in the United States of America the only place that matters is much closer to 10% and growing.

I just pray that either HP or IBM (or both) beats Dell.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Christoff

I thought Apple invented the personal with Apple II or whatever it was called.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Gambit

It's now at 42% with 3105 votes as of 18:41 in Germany, 12:41 in New York, 9:41 in San Francisco wink

Feb 11, 05 - 01:44 pm Comment from: Hazard's Dad

43% now. I'm sure it's because of me.

Feb 11, 05 - 01:53 pm Comment from: maczac

I voted for Samsung, cause they only had 7 votes, now they have 8. I felt bad for them.

I only voted for Apple ONCE, I swear, no really, pinky swear.

Zac

Feb 11, 05 - 02:00 pm Comment from: simple1

men mac users we are crazie i think there are like 20 votes each minute gone by!! lmao

Feb 11, 05 - 02:01 pm Comment from: RT

My vote made it 44% for Apple at 12:58.
Let's see if we can push Apple over 50%!
GO APPLE!!

Feb 11, 05 - 02:03 pm Comment from: Lloyd

Apple now at 44%!

Feb 11, 05 - 02:12 pm Comment from: Peter

Just voted--Apple at 45%.

Feb 11, 05 - 02:13 pm Comment from: SteveR

now @ 45%

Feb 11, 05 - 02:14 pm Comment from: david

Dell record setting? All the reports I'm reading are about hour lousy dells finanials looked today, and why its stock just droped alot just today

Feb 11, 05 - 02:16 pm Comment from: M. T. MacPhee

Tommy Boy:

So sorry. I had no previous knowledge that because I live in Canada I don't count. I'll go open my wrists right now. I'll make sure that the other 6,000,000,000 in the world join me. Should I take the dogs out too (after all, they don't buy computers. How about American dogs?) Don't forget to close the door after we leave.

Feb 11, 05 - 02:17 pm Comment from: M. T. MacPhee

Tommy Boy:

As I lie here in an ever expanding pool of blood, I was wondering if you could cite your source for that 10% figure?

Feb 11, 05 - 02:21 pm Comment from: Donnie

46% at 1:19pm

sweet soul sister!

Feb 11, 05 - 02:21 pm Comment from: macadoodle

Mac Users .......Gay!

Feb 11, 05 - 02:23 pm Comment from: ABQ Peter

if you toss out the "i don't know" votes, and maybe the silly "none of the above" votes i think apple is already over 50%.

Feb 11, 05 - 02:24 pm Comment from: Donnie

I haven't voted so often since we got Bush back in!

Feb 11, 05 - 02:38 pm Comment from: Lisa

People who own Macs apparently have nothing better to do on them than vote in phony polls ( maybe if CAD for the Mac existed these brainwashed applesauce brains could be engineers ). Go look at the displays on the Sony and Toshiba laptops and tell me the Apple displays are better--and be honest. I think OSX is much more preferable than XP but I can see that the Sony and Toshiba displays are much better with graphics and text. How come no one sells accident insurance for Apple displays?
Try being honest with your selfs and you will wind up with better Apples--you will wind up with powermacs that record and play dvd- and + when you part with your 3000. You will wind up with notebooks that have a respectable 400 fsb instead of the measley 167 on Apple's 2700 dollar 17 inch powerbook. I dont think you can buy a P C as slow as the Mac Mini but that doesnt necessarily make it a bad deal--it just makes it unlikely that the Mini is going to lure a lot of P C users over to OSX.

Feb 11, 05 - 02:44 pm Comment from: lisa

I think all people should be dissatisfied with the computer that they are using and all people should demand more...anything else is mush for brains. Im not saying Apple isnt the best, ( to make it clear for those of you who have spent too much time on a computer and not enough time in a book store ), Im saying that Apple wont remain the best for long if Apple is complacent. Im saying that together with Apple's software, technology like the 'cell' could make a company like Apple a giant of anti christ proportions. Have another bite...

Feb 11, 05 - 02:44 pm Comment from: winmacguy

4421 votes and 46% at 7.43am NZST

Feb 11, 05 - 02:46 pm Comment from: freebee

4477 (46%) votes while Dell is at 1494 (15%).

Feb 11, 05 - 02:52 pm Comment from: winmacguy

9644 votes in total so far with feed back comments like this
99.2 in reply to 99.1

I don't understand why anyone other than a hard core gamer or a developer of Windoze applications would choose a Windoze machine for personal use. Checking for and removing spyware and viruses, along with downloading patches to Microsoft's software are extremely time-consuming. Installing and updating applications leaves little remainders that gradually accumulate and hurt system performance.

MacOS X, by contrast, is rock solid, and remains remarkably free of the malware that plagues Windoze. The standard programs that ship with the Mac are an outstanding value and are of excellent quality, as any Windoze user of iTunes can see. The default Mac Mail program runs rings around Outlook Express, and the iChat AV program with an iSight camera is superb. Office:mac is highly compatible with Office XP and Office 2003, and has additional features as well. The other iLife applications (iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie) have a high degree of degree consistency that makes them a big improvement over competitive products for the Microsoft platform.

and 4600 votes at 7.52am NZST

Feb 11, 05 - 03:04 pm Comment from: winmacguy

4803 votes for Apple at 8.02am and still 46%
Dell 1540 votes and 15%
HP1445 votes 14%
Gateway 374 votes 4%

Feb 11, 05 - 03:06 pm Comment from: winmacguy

4863 votes for Apple at 8.05 am NZST with 10555 people voted

Feb 11, 05 - 03:19 pm Comment from: Double J

Sitting on a Dell here at work and it made me think. Maybe Forbes is referring to IBM as the first company to introduce PC's because most people, when they hear the term PC, they think of Windows. Most non-Mac users I know think that if it runs MS-Dos through Windows then its a PC. If its made by Apple, its a Mac. Forbes said it themselves in the article, "whose Macintosh computers are often touted as being anti-PC".

Feb 11, 05 - 03:20 pm Comment from: Double J

By the way, I can't wait to get home and get on my Mac. I HATE THIS STUPID DELL!!!!

Feb 11, 05 - 03:29 pm Comment from: Double J

Was just thinking about your post on Apple notebook displays. I have a friend who recently bought a Toshiba Satellite with a 15" screen. The screen, while nice, is inferior to the screen on my 14" iBook G4. Not to mention that my iBook, with a 1.33 GHz processor, runs faster than his 2.4 P4, and they both have 512 MB RAM. In fact, he just bought a Mac Mini so he can ditch his Toshiba (he never used it anywhere but home and church)

Feb 11, 05 - 04:21 pm Comment from: mutorq

47%

Feb 11, 05 - 04:27 pm Comment from: RePlay

Apple Computer: 47% of the vote. Dull 13%.

Feb 11, 05 - 04:40 pm Comment from: PC Nerd

Where are Alien and Shuttle? What about an option for "Build your own"??

Feb 11, 05 - 04:57 pm Comment from: macnut222

"Build your own" is not a company.

Apple is now at 48%, IBM at 15%, Dell at 13%, HP at 12%.

Feb 11, 05 - 05:55 pm Comment from: hotdraw

In 1977 during a local SF Bay area TV interview a Very young Steve Jobs coined the terms Personal Computer and PC while introducing the Apple II to the world. IBM looked down thier noses at Apple and the micro computers they created and did'nt show any interest untill 1980 when by then Apple was on the verge of becomeing a billion dollar corporation.

The Forbes writer is an idiot and should have researched his computer history better.

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