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Hopefully soon someone will benchmark Motion 2 and FCP 5 rendering on the new machines. I assume the Quad G5 remains the performance leader... for now.

Boy Steve Jobs isn't wasting anytime.

The Quad G5 is still the performance leader because it has Altivec which the Intel processors don't.

So for big jobs that take a long time to render the Quad will kick butt over these new Intel Core Duo's.

However life doesn't stand still, I read a article yesterday that Intel is planning to announce a Quad processor soon. Two of those in a PowerMac will give 8 cores of wonderful power.

Of course the problem with all those cores is the limited bus speed and only one memory controler per proccessor.

But 8 cores should do the poweruser very well, not only that, it might be possible to hack Windows Vista to run in a window on Mac OS X, complete with all their programs.

But I really don't like the TPM implications with these new Intel chips. Especially EFI, which will allow firmware to contact over the internet before the OS loads.

Not a good thing for privacy, I can just see the implications for that.

DA, the PowerMacs will get the Xeon/Itanium replacement not a frickin' CoreDuo.

The g5 quad is hella fast. I was running some 1080p High def video in it scaled up to full screen on a 30 inch monitor... I checked the cpu usage and it was under 20%! that is whack. I don't see how the intel powermacs are going to be faster than the quad... All sorts of reviews when it came out said it was the fastest computer under 10,000.

This is all well and good, but as a suite, it's too expensive for what I do with it. I'd love to have/buy Soundtrack Pro on it's own. And what about Final Cut Express? Is it going uni?

I was told by my local VAR (after a call to their local inside man at Apple), that Soundtrack (which currently comes bundled with FCE, along with Live Type), won't be upgraded to uni. It'll be replaced by Soundtrack Pro instead. That would be FANTASTIC if it's true. No word on Live Type though :(

Now..hopefully my FCP 4 universal upgrade will ship out! I have been waiting for about 3 weeks now... This is the last item that I need to go Intel

MacDude, I thought you were all about your new Vaio?

Dual 2.7 Ghz G5 are still the fastest in many case ( many apps é process dont use the 4 cores of the Quad )

we will forget about the G5 once Intel workstations are out... Apple with alliance with Intel didnt found only a chip that was fast...but a company that can deliver again and again fast chips and upgrades...not some Moto or IBM wanna be @ 3ghz by next year...that never delivers...

GO APPLE AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!

@ unfettered

"Hopefully soon someone will benchmark Motion 2 and FCP 5 rendering on the new machines. I assume the Quad G5 remains the performance leader... for now."

Perhaps you can get meaningful numbers from FCP, but Motion's performance is mainly dictated by the GPU. If there were a G5 with an ATI X1600 it would be interesting.

As it is, Yes a G5 with a 7800 or Quadro 4500 will beat the stuffing out of a Intel imac/macbook.

Even an AGP based G5 with a 6800 or ATI X850 would likely beat them.

Those of us fortunate enough to have bought and one component of Final Cut Suite can get the whole thing for a song. I bought Soundtrack Pro back when you could buy it as a standalone. Now I can buy Final Cut Suite for $200. Sweet

"DA, the PowerMacs will get the Xeon/Itanium replacement not a frickin' CoreDuo."

The Xeon/Itanium chips are for servers. My bet: The new PowerMacs (MacPros?) will be utilizing the Conroe Dual-Core processors. Already been tested to give a 300% performance boost in video encoding alone! 4 instructions per clock cycle and you can "piggyback" to get 5 instructions per cycle. Smokin. Don't believe me or need a reference?

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