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That's a shame.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Windows should just be renamed WIV (Windows Immuno-deficiency Virus).

Windows sucks some serious ass. And MS thinks I should run variants of Windows on phones and cars and stuff? Get the fock outta here.

DOH! So much for Apple security.

1% is a lot, we will know how much tomorrow, I guess.

I'm first?

Awesome!! LOL

How did it get on there? Are iPods initially formatted and imaged using Windows PCs?

"we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses"...

WTF!

I'm curious to know how a virus could exist on a brand new iPod?

Tommy Boy, our Apples are STILL secure you dufus.

Apple people aren't used to looking for this CRAP or caring about it.

But if you're going to dance with the devil...you gotta watch your back.

Jarvis Cocker, Nick Cave and others discussing current music, iPods etc.
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1923704,00.html

Tommy Boy, our Apples are STILL secure.

Apple people aren't used to looking for this CRAP or caring about it.

But if you're going to dance with the devil...you gotta watch your back.

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."

Priceless! Somebody at Apple deserves a raise for that quote alone...

Tommyboy, you are such an MS troll!

You said, "DOH! So much for Apple security."
Its a Windows virus.
Apple/iPod software does not even see it.
The only thing it can bother is Windows machines (like Vista??? ).

I have had a couple of viruses on my Mac machines over the years. They came in hidden when using MS Outlook and went right back out to bother other Windows users. I never noticed them, NO effect on my machine. Neat. (PS, I don't spread viruses on purpose. But with over 115,000 viruses out there, its hard to miss them.


N.

Sorry for the double post. The MDN server originally said it didn't accept the post. It LIED!

Hey, if someone is using a Windows PC, it's only a matter of time before they get a virus anyway.

ken1w and Jump, they got on there because an Apple subcontractor used an infected Windows computer. It just goes to show how costly using Windows can be.

We can't get it, just pass it on. Which I kind of like. The more infected Winduhz, the more potential switchers. Keep 'em coming!

It could be worse. Microsoft could start making condoms.

We recently discovered that a small number - less than 1% - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12, 2006 left our contract manufacturer carrying the Windows RavMonE.exe virus.

Well that's a first for Apple. A free virus!

Microsoft has been selling their Windows virus for years.

We can laugh; I guess it’s kind of funny since we use Macs and aren’t affected.

But what does this say to potential switchers about Apple’s vaunted quality control?

Windows may become infected five minutes after turning it on, but other vendors don’t ship their products from the factory infected.

And I think it’s low class for Apple to say I wish your system was more hardy so it would stop the virus you just bought from us.

It's like trying to keep the rat turds out of the giant peanut butter vat over at JIF, inc. No matterwhat precautions you take, viruses and Windows will find each other...

one word! get a mac.

Considering that Windows users are part of Apple's Business (at least in what iPod is concerned), then the fruit company should've been more careful with this.

When, in the past, another (non iPod) portable music player, the name of which I cannot recall, had a similar problem, I heard a lot of laughter, considering that player as an object of ridicule and bashing from Mac fans.I, being a Mac user myself, don't find this stuff funny. So, if others make the mistake it is all bad and stuff. If Apple does it, then nothing happens. See...that's what I do hate about the Macintosh world, the lack of objectivity. And yes, I know that someones will tell me to buy a PC. Well, Apple computers are PC's (personal computers, non windows operated ones,that is) and I do own two. I won't switch to the Redmond "Miracle", so don't waste your time

<<Windows may become infected five minutes after turning it on, but other vendors don’t ship their products from the factory infected.>>

Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. Creative has had off and on problems with Zen players leaving the factory with Windows viruses preloaded.

Apple may have done this on purpose. What's another virus to an MS user anyway?

"one word! get a mac." That's three words dumbass.

I agree, Jerry T. This is the sort of stuff that will be used against all the cocky TV ads and posts on this site. I love Apple but I bet we will see this used as an attack (however short lived) against the internal security of Apple. If this can happen how can they say they make such a solid OS?

Gotta love Apple playing hardball with Micropenis on the virus issue! Better late than never but they should have started 2 years ago.

Ampar
Microsoft. Now there's a name for a condom. Their motto could be"Screw everybody like we did. Twice!"

Why don't APple just remove Windows support from it's iPod altogether???

Oh... wait... decrease in marketshare....

TowerTone: Micro and soft would be a marketer's branding nightmare in the prophylactic business. But they could come with different color LEDs to indicate stages of arousal. And innovative options like turning the ribbed ones inside out for your uploading pleasure.

they were selling the best of both worlds...

Talk about a viral marketing campaign!

Seriously though, Apple shouldn't have taken the cheap shot at Windows when they're the ones with egg on their face over this. People expect it from Microsoft, not from Apple.

Imagine working at Apple and being the one responsible for that kind of support: I would feel cheated...

Few here seem to be all over this.

If this was Microsoft doing this with the Zune there'd be rejoicing in the streets by Apple fanbois, if MS did this to our own Macs, we'd be as mad as hell and expect retribution, but b/c it's Apple affecting Windows, no one says anything much at all?? Come on!

I think Apple's response is totally bizarre.

"... we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses..."

This is hardly one of the great responses from Apple - they're blaming Windows for this as much as themselves. If they'd left that line out, I think they'd have been ok, but including it, it comes across as rather cheeky, if not arrogant (although I guess that's Apple just being themselves.)

Of course, it may not be entirely Apple's fault - it might be a campaign to discredit Apple. We'll see.

I think that MDN could have pulled a funny one and removed the word "Windows" from their headline. It would say "Apple shipped virus on small number of 5G video-capable iPods" and it would have scared us all!!!

Ampar
You mean kinda like mood rings for nude things?

I used to collect Windows viruses and keep them stored in a folder on my old iBook. Pity I never kept them. This was before yahoo actually scanned its own mail.

Ha Ha Ha... Get a Mac... FOOOOOLS!

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."

Translation: If only we'd been smart enough to run antivirus software on our systems, we wouldn't have infected our customers which when it comes to iPods are mostly Windows users. Sorry guys we should have been more careful.

Another reason to run Antivirus software on Windows: To protect you from Apple products.

" As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses "

Just for that, Apple should get one of Stephen Colbert's Medals of Audacity.

I want one! I'd be a great BTO security option. Headline: "Stolen iPod trashes thief's computer then phones home."

"It's like trying to keep the rat turds out of the giant peanut butter vat over at JIF, inc. No matterwhat precautions you take, viruses and Windows will find each other..."

Actually virus scanning the image before burning it to the iPod hard drives, and making sure that other production systems had up to date antivirus protection would be a simple precaution that any competent manufacturer would take.

Given that this is a 4 month old virus, even the most basic precautions would have caught it. Just goes to show where a head in the sand attitude towards viruses gets you.

The virus didn't "find" Windows, it was sold to Windows customers by Apple.

Look for Apple to make a bulk purchase of Antivirus software shortly.

I'm not given to too much foul language, but - F#!&ing;Windows. What a plague on the human race.

This is part of the Master Plan.

Get people to buy iPods
Get Windows people to buy a MacIntel.
Inject a virus in iPods that only affect Windows users (thats the easy part)
Tell people that if they didnt run Windows they would never have gotten the virus.
People stop using Windows.
Apple OS captures 95% of market.
Apple HD TV's in every living room.
Apple iPod interfaces in every car.

The Halo Effect Part 2.

Ron,

"Apple may have done this on purpose. What's another virus to an MS user anyway?"

When you put it that way, what's another Windows virus to a Mac user? Not much.

So all in all I guess viruses don't really matter that much one way or the other.

And the funniest thing is that people were saying that the Zune would spread viruses. Looks like Apple decided to show leadership on this feature.

Apple product meeting to discuss Zune.

Steve: "Can we do wireless?"

Minions: "No, we don't have the technology."

Steve: "Then how about putting on a big screen?"

Minions: "Sorry that would take to long."

Steve: "Isn't there anything we could do quickly? Microsoft said something about community and viral marketing."

Minions: "We could beat them to the punch and ship a virus on every iPod."

Steve: "Brilliant, let's do it."

That's embarassing and shouldn't have happened.

Now having said that, they probably use MS products at the factory and this is a result thereof.

Bad plan, becaue here's how it plays out:

Get people to buy iPods
Inject a virus in iPods that only affect Windows users (thats the easy part)
Windows user looses all his stuff.
He understands it's all Apple's fault.
Next music player is a Zune.
Somewhere along the way he joins a class action suing Apple.

Actually, this is probably no more complicated than an outgoing employee with short-timer's disease and a twisted sense of humor. Anti-virus programs can't protect against those.