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Clearly this guy is a moron with little or no idea what he is talking about. Go get him you e-mail muggers!

What a bozo! Shrek isn't even a Pixar film.

And didn't Jobs purchase Pixar from George Lucas?

Hahahahahahahahaha

It's not worth it to email the writer of that article. I think the public is aware of the Apple story by now.

AHHHH Pixar didnt do shrek..Dreamworks did...!!!!

Why does MDN bother to give this article the publicity it clearly seeks - when the author is so clearly an ignoramus.

Editor - please apply some control. Not every article with the words, Jobs, Apple or Mac in them deserve circulation to the Mac community.

Uh, Macs did used to be mocked (and still are). Apple did take advantage of customers with renamed models that quickly became obsolete. Apple did choose not to pursue business sales. And now, with the ipod and various identifiable entertainment ventures, as well as the fastest pc's available, it is poised for a dramatic improvement in computer market share. It won't get it, as it does not care as evidenced by the new imac, which as usual meets Steve's needs nicely, and the rest of us only if we think like Steve.

MDN usually provokes a higher class of name callers than this. At least moron and ignoramus were spelled correctly this time.

Well, Joe's back. Same ol' slop, Joe. Please don't claim to speak for "us" when you deride the new iMac. It happens to be a very nice computer. You want to compare it to the run o' the mill Dell or HP or Sony - go ahead, give it your best shot. What don't you like about it Joe? Is it the fact that it is beautiful? Is it the fact that it has a G5? Maybe that it runs Mac OS X? How about that you don't need special popup blockers or virus scanners or spyware blockers? Hmm, what else don't you like about it?

Joe, please don't pretend to be anything other than a PC bitch, because that's what you are.

Up yours, McConnell.

I'd take a Mac over a Dull any day of the week. I come across the choice every day and I always take the Mac.

joe wants a headless imac. why not just say that joe instead of firing everyone up?

Unlike Micrs**t, Apple IS in the entertainment industry. My iMac is very entertaining. My brother-in-law's Sony is not. It's just a computer, with no soul and no imagination.

MS makes revs of about 40B a year.. Apple..12B.. i honestly thought it was like a factor of 10... it aint.

Oh.. and Dell recently was a 30B company..trying to become a 60B company..

Did I say Micros**t?
I try to every time, and when I see someone else using it I'll be really really happy as it was my idea.

Is this what history will tell us about our beloved Macs?

http://www.dearauntnettie.com/gallery/museum-mouse.htm

It's sad when an author throws together a pile unchecked assertions like these (Pixar being a division of Apple, and Shrek being a Pixar film, for example), but even worse when there's apparently no editorial staff checking such very obvious and easily verifiable statements. But then, I've never heard of "Strategiy.com". Sounds Turkish or something.

The guy McConnell tries to make an election issue. Talking about the Arab region puts Apple as a anti- patriotic company. He is a bad bad rightwing reporter.

Spoken like a true brainwashed servant of the Redmond devil himself.

She probablly wants the chance to hump Bill Gates leg too.

They are scared, Apple stock has been rocketing, we have a better OS, it's more secure, the iPod is a hit. Apple is opening stores all over and selling Mac's like crazy.

Apple is getting taken seriously by AT&T;and other corporations, CherryOS is going to give PC users a taste of Mac OS X and they may like what they see and just say "fuck it" I'm buying a Mac.

http://g5support.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=1628

The factual error about Pixar,etc. aside, if Apple had chosen to also pursue the business market, it would would be larger, and therefore have the resources and clout to be better "for the rest of us."

kenh.. haven't used Windows in a while have you?

"kenh.. haven't used Windows in a while have you?"

Used OSX, Unix and Windows within the last 24 hours, Windows and Unix not by choice.

What is your point?

Interesting that when talking about Apples market share, analysts always include the business market, when as pointed out Apple never competed in that segment of the market, and is only now starting to do so with its Xserve, etc.

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Thought this might be of interest to some. Figured it'd be more visible in the most recent semi-related thread.

Windows vs. Linux security

http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/security_report_windows_vs_linux/

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Joe... funny post man. Thanks.

Mac&PCGuy;Great link. Thanks. I will re-use some of those results for internal use.

kehn...

"if Apple had chosen to also pursue the business market, it would would be larger, and therefore have the resources and clout to be better "for the rest of us."

Obviously, I was referring to the company that DID pursue the business market...

Windows.. and the DOS world that Mac was lashing out against is NOT made for the rest of us.. it's not made for "us" at all.. it's made for developers.. MS doesn't give a rat's ass about it's customers

" Windows.. and the DOS world that Mac was lashing out against is NOT made for the rest of us.. it's not made for "us" at all.. it's made for developers.. MS doesn't give a rat's ass about it's customer"

I agree with that.

My point is that if Apple had chosen to pursue the business market , MS and Windows might very well have been a distant and unpleasant memory.

I have used computers in business for nearly 30 years now, and I remember how it was in the early days. I was lucky enough to have a sales rep "switch" me in 1988. She took about 20 minutes to explain it, and it made sense.

She was an employee of a local independent reseller who sold both "the dark side" and Apple.

But most businesses were never seriously presented with the option. Most never knew it existed, and still don't.

Should they be looking for an option? Yes, and they are now. But it is not because Apple is courting them seriously. The product makes it easier now, but there still is no serious effort of any size to market to business. Great product is the right direction, but people have to be made aware of it.

Entertainment stuff is ok, more power to them, but I don't have the time or interest in entertainment products. Real life is more fun.

Can you imagine the cost savings in business that could be passed on if Macs were being used in greater numbers? Like 90% market share type numbers?

Any kind of waste, in the long haul, benefits no one, so let the Windows IT guys get real jobs.

Pixar didn't make Shrek, Dreamworks Pictures did! Be careful who you give credits to!

Joe,

Busy yesterday with my new iPod, but I always like to make time for my friends here at MDN.

I've suggested this before Joe, you're never going to convince us MDNers to buy you that new iMac that you want, with that attitude!

Once again, another PC type who didn't do his homework.

kehn.. eerily, Bill Gates when he was a young scamp urged other companies (OS makers) to agree to a standard.. what he called a Natural Monopoly..

For developers it's very convenient having a Natural Monopoly (duh)..

Unfortunately, MS only has a 'Natural Monopoly' in the overall market.. including Business Sales (the bank terminal argument)

They sure dont have a monopoly on the home PC's.. or else why would companies like id make games for the Mac...

the Mac, contrary to popular belief, typically gets game ports,eventually, of successful games.. i've got WC3 and Civ3.. i'm in heaven!

Seahawk...

*tips hat*

welcome... G'day!

Apple has always led the way in computer technology. They are simply the best inside and out. The folks at apple go above and beyond the average computer every single year. Now they have the best music player on the market and the largest online music store on the internet. The apple stores that are popping up everywhere are starting to payoff as well. Now PC users are given a chance to think different like the rest of the mac community. So what if they don't design based on the bussiness market. They simply set out to build the best computer on the market, and did. Apple didn't set out to monopolize the bussiness market. Although the buisness market is starting to come around. The G4 tower I bought in 2000 still works great and smokes any Dell, Gateway, IBM, etc... on the market today. I haven't had any problems with hardware or any viruses in 4 years! Best of all I haven't HAD to upgrade to a new computer in all that time. When I'm forced to work on a PC it is such a drag. It seems like I'm working on a toy computer. The OS looks like something fisher-price designed and I feel like it is going to crap out at any minute. Everyone wants to bring up the fact that apple doesn't have enough share of the business market. So what, Apple has shown you don't have to. Just look at their stock price today...

gee whiz, I gotta check in more often.

My points were that the author of the article didn't misstate anything (other than the pixar gaff, I guess). All that other stuff is true, I think, and, mostly, water under the bridge.

And that, maybe we all share different takes on the phrase "contender in the pc market" but to me it means selling more boxes, % wise, than before. I think the new imac will fall flat on its face in that regard. Sales figures may make me wrong, but I doubt it. It's a nice design and the idea of a wall mount is just right for an upscale home.......but that is not where volume demographics matter.

So Bradford, I don't think it is my fault, it is the mindset of the mass here who are still so insecure about their choice. I actually don't think the broad community of Mac owners is well represented here, free forums being what they are.

Jimbo, good name calling! Way to elevate!

what a news flash, youre only 6 months late

did you google this article?