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trying to find itunes 6 now at apples site

Sweet merciful crap!

Imagine that, Apple managed to make the screen larger.
Hundred of MacDailyNews readers are dumbfounded......


So where are all the "there will never be a video iPod", "only updated PowerBooks today" people?

Just wondering, because I tell ya there is nothing better than seeing a bunch of "know it alls" turned into "know nothings".
But never fear, the same idiots will be right back here the next time Apple has an announcement proclaiming what it will and won't be.
Just like at the Intel announcement.

You guys do remember the copious amounts of crow from that one don't you?

It's there. I got it.

Is there no mention of the battery life for video playback? I bet it is in the 3-4 hour range.

There is a song from the 50's called "Is that all there is?"

I am not really suprised at everyones Ho-hum to the iPod Video. What IS noteworthy is the new iMac. This is the application that will drive the buisness, from the couch, buy a tv show, watch it...no more tv unless you are dying to flip through channels.

It's only 2 hours four video playback for the 30 GB, 3 hours for the 60 GB, though. I guess we won't ripping and watching movies on this thing - it isn't meant for it, anyway. Does this thing have a built-in voice recorder? In the specs it says, Voice recording settings: Low (22.05 KHz, mono), High (44.1 KHz, stereo). Or does this mean we can hook up a quality mic through the dock connector and make reasonably good recordings?

October 12, 3:02 PM EDT
Good news! Glad to see Apple pulling ahead of the competition, even as it's way ahead already.

While Apple under jobs innovates with its iPods, is music to the ears, as well as enhances life on earth, the WH under Bush destroys with his US Fascist Act, grates the soul, as well as murders innocents. Bush, the Mayor of the Palace, is sarcophagous and a quakenbuttock, and needs to be lapidated or decollated while Jobs, the originator of the Macintosh, deserves gramercy for his sublimely coruscated usurfucts. *S*

I challange any iPod-using patriot to correctly translate what I said. If you do, you get a Vanax star. *S*

I don't know why everyone is so excited over this. See, I was in BestBuy today and the salesman (Alex) told my friend that in 5 years Apple will be out of business. He said "that's what they're telling us". I assume "they" are the people at Best Buy. So, buy Apple stuff if you want, but be warned. That stuff will soon go the way of the Edsel.

(This isn't the first time that the Winston-Salem, NC store salesmen have put down Apple in a serious way.)

Finally! Took them looong enough! Such obvious application! Also won't have to listen to the "iPod video - never" "screen too small" blah blah drones parroting SJ's deflective denials.

vvanax is a real party-pooper!
Nicht wahr?

Why not 80/40 GB?

I wasn't interested at all in the idea of a video iPod. But, I have to admit that Apple seems to have done it really well. The ability to play video on a TV from the iPod is great.

The new iMac...wow! Built-in iSight? How cool. I think Apple is going to have a very good holiday sales season.

GUTTED!!!! where is the bloody 80GB model? all this talk, where is it? God sake i run out of room on my 60GB ipod last year!!!!... i'm waiting apple, im waiting...

So will the new iPod Video commercial be black silhouettes of hipsters standing still and hunched over while staring at their tiny screen all set to a booty shaking tune by the Black Eyed Peas or the likes?
Video iPod... yawn
Front Row... The start of something very cool.

I'll whine, since nobody is pointing out the obvious. What's up with the screen being so small? It's not competitive with other PMP's. Battery life 2-3 hours or something? With only that tiny screen?? I can see Apple watching video on the go rolling over the horizon quicker than they anticipated, scrambling for some television deal since they aren't going to let you rip dvd's (sony music isn't being buddies so what about their video division), and finally busting out w/ a hurried 4:3 teeny tiny screen. People looking for a PMP aren't going to look at this too much. Hopefully it's just a first step and once the music store deals are through we'll get a widescreen that does it justice.

Quicktime Pro users gain the ability to covert movies for ipods? Ok I'm doing it and it's slow (from an mpeg-4). No wonder they dropped the x600's and other bombs in the new consumer iMac.

Now...last time I wanted to get something from a round spinny thing onto my apple branded machine and then onto my apple branded portable device I recall just opening a FREE application and doing it. Um...am I missing it or is iTunes incapable of ripping any video. So..pay for quicktime pro..then pay for the mpeg-2 video playback component..hope 7.0.3 or .4 unbreaks the ac3 component...then SLOWLY export and move to iTunes? Not for the average user.

Yeah M$MC isn't as easy or free..but it's almost easier for the average user than what Apple has and they went w/ a DVR setup. Apple's just lagging on video still, but this is a boost and the television episodes at that price are relatively good compared to buying the season on dvd.

Guess we have to wait for the real ipod video and rebranded itunes to come out. Licensing for mp-dis-n-dat sux.

People waiting for a 80 Gigs iPod are a very vocal minority...

Oh boy, another minimum wage worker, a sales artist *LMAO* whose low income Bush honors by promoting the importation of more illegals from Mexico, doing the Apple death knell.

Oh yeah! Rely on salesman Alex for the latest nascient nepheligenous famulus. The anti-Apple lemmings will be formicating to hear more from him. I am sure.

*ahem* Someone's got to be petty and point out that ThinkSecret were utterly, hilariously wrong. Let's all remember that the next time MDN posts one of their crap articles as news.

Hmmm, the Apple store just mentions USB for connectivity but the firewire cable still says compatible with all ipods with dock connector except the iPod nano.

Just not updated yet or are they de-emphasizing firewire as much as possible. Too bad but with Apple not leading the charge anymore Firewire might be dying a quiet death.

All that aside, I REALLY want a video iPod and an iPod nano. I can't figure out a way to justify the nano right now tho. I think I CAN justify the video iPod so maybe that is what I will shoot for for Christmas. I can let my wife use the 3rd Gen iPod I have or keep it as back up at home as a stereo system.

Is that all there is? I second that!

I so need a new tower for video editing. The 2.7 is such old news. If I bought one today, the dual cores would be out tomorrow.

I am so bummed!

What's the hold-up? Is Jobs so pissed with IBM that I'll be waiting a year for the Intel units?
Arghhhhh!

The all-knowing, all-seeing BILL PALMER is now 0 for 2.

Methinks he ought retire from prognosticating, especially since he is so nasty while spouting his incorrect views.

Wingsy -

I used to live in Winston-Salem and know that Best Buy on Hanes Mall Blvd and Stratford Rd.

Those people are idots. If you actually knew anything about consumer electronics and comuters, would you waste your time working at Best Buy?

I rest my case.

MDN word: line

Whatever happens, all this will be old stuff taken for granted in three short years. I need to own my hard drives and get a hardware subscription service (upgrades every two years) to run them. MW: hit.

No FireWire!!!! ;(

However, the really interesting thing is that Steve seems to be getting along with Bob Iger at Disney since they are providing ABC video content. This will be VERY interesting looking ahead for movie content.

Man I really hate Mac users. Such a bunch of friggin whiners.

I can just see the day, Steve rolls out and says "Today we are introducing a new iPod that plays music, streams music from the afterlife from dead musicians, plays movies that are beamed directly into the visual cortex of your brain thru Bluetooth, and will allow you to teleport up to 20 years into the future. And it will only cost 50 bucks.

Mac users will litter the forums bitching that they cannot go BACK in time, just forward.

Vanax is on Xanax.

Apple blew it on the screen - it should be reoriented horizontally in a 16:9 aspect, with the scroll wheel next to the screen (making it smaller like the nane scroll wheel). They also missed on the resizing - one of the great things about the iPod is how easily it fits in your hands, and the wider iPod loses that aesthetic.

The iMac, however, is a great story, with the built-in iSight and Front Row. Apple once again ups the ante.

OMG! There is not a single iPod that supports Firewire anymore? What is up with that.

And why can't this video playback be supported by all color screen iPods? I have an iPod Photo 30 gig which is no different then the current 30 gig (ok the screen is smaller) and tell my why I can't play videos on that?

If I was one of the millions who just went out and bought a Nano and I can't play videos I would be so supper pissed!

Apple continues its 'all class' regime.. Im gettin a 30gb for sure!!

And now for the iTunes Music Store in AUSTRALIA!!

Oh man. $300. Now I need to know that all my torrented AVIs will play! Now if we could somehow stop all tards from making WMVs!

So.. what I'm waiting for is someone to enable iPods to not only SHOW video but be able to RECORD video directly from my DV camera. That would really be useful, fun, time-saving and wonderful.

When will iTunes come to New Zealand and Australia. It is torture seeing all the cool things you can do with it but not use it!

to all those 'cousins' and doubters out there who scoffed that the BBC announcment rumour was rubbish last week, and then for no apparent reason lauched yet another snide anti-all -things-British tirade....... eat humble pie now and get ready to watch your fox news dross on a video ipod... arf arf

"Hmmm, the Apple store just mentions USB for connectivity but the firewire cable still says compatible with all ipods with dock connector except the iPod nano.

Just not updated yet or are they de-emphasizing firewire as much as possible. Too bad but with Apple not leading the charge anymore Firewire might be dying a quiet death."

Jack, I checked the specs and the new iPods do not support Firewire.

I'm somewhat dissapointed, but I do not believe this means that Apple is killing Firewire at all. It's a business decision for the iPod line. It's to reduce size and increase margins. Having both Firewire and USB connectivity is redundant, fine with a high margin computer, but doesn't make sense for a product like the iPod. Apple is trying to squeeze every bit of profitability they can from iPod.

If you think it through, you must conclude that adding the cost (and real estate) for firewire circuitry to iPod when only a minority of iPod owners use it doesn't make good sense.

MW Faith, as in have faith in Apple's business decisions..

Brian Cameron: it's not any wider than current iPods: 4.1×2.4 inches, same as before, I believe. Read the specs. It only looks that way, as John Gruber noted, because the screen is bigger and the click wheel appears to be a touch smaller.

Brian Cameron,

The new iPod is exactly the same height (103.50mm) and width (61.80mmm) as the old ones, and it is significantly thinner than the old ones.

check it out:
http://developer.apple.com/hardware/ipod/4GiPoddimensions.pdf
http://developer.apple.com/hardware/ipod/iPod10-12-60Gdimensions.pdf

From STUFF magazine:
(at the BBC intro for iPod Video)

It's small. Smaller than you'd think, in fact. Despite being a touch wider than its predecessor to accomodate the screen, it's almost as thin as the Nano - making it a genuinely pocket-friendly and making Archos and Creative's offerings look lardy.

*The screen's superb. Yes, it's not much bigger than the screen on some phones. The clarity and level of detail packed into its 2.5 inches, however, is superb. You wouldn't want to watch a full-length movie on it, but it's a doozy for watching a quick music video or a TV show.
*The 2 hour video battery on the 30GB model is poor, but 14 hours isn't outrageously bad for music playback. The short video playback figure's definitely a sign of intent - that this a player designed for short video bursts, not full movie-viewing.
*Let's hope some UK TV shows become available soon. Although the European launch was held at the Beeb, the first ready-to-download TV shows will only be available in the US from Disney and ABC. Come on, Apple - let's have Little Britain playing on our Pods.
*£1.89 for a UK music video is a rip-off. If iPod fans in the US are paying $1.99, why are we paying nearly twice the amount? No amount of talk about VAT can convince us on this one.
*The music vids might be expensive but £220 for 30GB and £300 for 60GB model is - if the new iPod stands up to our testing - extremely good value.

Colonel Panic:

It may not mean that Apple is killing Firewire, but it does mean that they are screwing loyal Mac users who DON"T want to buy a new computer just so that they can load up a new iPod.

I was planning on buying an updated iPod, but now will forget about it. I'll probably buy a closeout on the discontinued model and that will be that for new iPods in the house for quite a while.

I can understand that they can't build in capability for USB and Firewire (for cost reasons as well as space: I assume Firewire they each require their own chip on the circuit board), but why not at least offer a dock that can do it?

"...yet another snide anti-all -things-British tirade"

when did we hear one of these?

Zato,

Funny how STUFF magazine assumed that the new iPod was wider... I can see that this is going to be a widespread misunderstanding. The smaller clickwheel and flat face of the iPod really do make it appear to be wider, but as you can see from Apple's docs that I linked to above, they are exactly the same width.

I see that STUFF magazine also got the battery life wrong - it's 15 hours for the 30GB and 20 hours for the 60GB model, not 14 hours like they said.

Aww...I was hoping for visualizations. Oh well i can't complain.

video framerate is over twice what's necessary for great quality at the screen size of the video ipods. Yeah, Apple should have turned the screen, but I'm going w/ still waiting for the real video one to pop up. The sound is full quality (can't complain there if you're listening to a music video). Hmmn...what are they up to w/ that kind of datarate. There is absolutely no ipod video reason for it. In fact it practically doubles the file size. That means slower downloads and more bandwidth. Apple has got to be going somewhere with this. So...even though 4:3 on a 16:9 screen kinda sux...there's hope that the 6th gen ipod will flawlessly play whatever you buy now. Also noticed the season packaging price for lost is now $10 cheaper than the bestbuy special price for the dvd set. I'm thinking 'forward looking' statement here.

Yeah, Apple should have turned the screen, but I'm going w/ still waiting for the real video one to pop up.

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I guess you missed the whole 'TV Out' thing..

You wanna watch stolen movies? DL to your iPod.. take it to your friend's house, plug in your iPod to his TV. Bam.

FireWire???!!!!!

PLEASE tell me there is no FW on this! There is absolutely NO WAY you can sync big video files using crappy USB 2 in a reasonable amount of time!

I WANT it! But I also want FW. Decisions, Decisions

to uh....

last week when it was rumoured this was going to happen......

i think the headline here was radio 6 annouces something or other..

and it not the first time, i remember a load of vitriol one time due to that plonker who runs amstrad saying something once (allan green), anyway enough of this...... it was supposed to be half in jest

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/7116/

here the link cant be bothered to trawl through back catalogues for the other one (sometime around may april maybe)

Bang. Bang. Bang.

that was the sound of another 3 sony executives being fired.

nano , ipod video, itunes 6, imac g5

how far behind are sony now?