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Feb 01, 10 - 05:13 pm Comment from: loloontheair

Nokia makes smartphones?

Looks like RIM and Apple both had about the same growth. Nokia, surprisingly, was essentially flat. That means that "Others" took the hit, even as new hyped phones from Moto and HTC were produced.

Sucks to be them.

Feb 01, 10 - 05:35 pm Comment from: silverhawk

'...the fierce competition will inevitably place downward pressure on vendors’ pricing and margins.” The only downward pressure I want to see is on the telcos. They need to lower prices.

Strategy Analytics must have studied on Ballmer. Market share does not equal profits, just ask Nokia.

Feb 01, 10 - 05:53 pm Comment from: surfcity

How much of RIM growth is due to BOGO?
And I wonder if VZ or AT&T;will continue subsidizing as many BOGO offers in light of the revenue and earnings hit they will take by reducing their "unlimited" plans down to $69.99.

Feb 01, 10 - 05:54 pm Comment from: Predrag

If those Nokias are smartphones, well then yes, my own crappy little (free with a plan) Sony-Ericsson is also a smartphone: it can do e-mail, it can do music, it can do internet, it can take pictures, it can take (and show) video, it can do FM radio, it can do games... The only thing it doesn't have is a QWERTY keyboard (instead, it has ordinary numeric keypad). And did I mention it's crappy? In all fairness, though, its earphones are actually quite good (it IS Sony, after all; they had been making Walkman headphones for over thirty years now).

A bullet-point feature list does not a smartphone make.

Feb 01, 10 - 07:26 pm Comment from: Jersey_Trader

Note: The market grew 15% and Apple's iPhone grew more than 100%

Do the math. The story of this blood bath is already written!

@Surfcity

You have to remember, it wasn't RIM that gave away their phones, it was AT&T;. RIM still made some money on those -though maybe less, it's hard to know what kind of back room deals were made for the promotion. Further, each one of those BOGO you speak of come with a built in monthly fee for RIM, so they are making money twice on their phones.

Nat a bad deal for RIM.

As Apple product grows, it will straighten the Mac's market share and eventually Window PC's will fall into Apple's hands.

PC= Piles of Crap
Mac= Mac are Courageous

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E71 & 72 are not smartphones!!!

Feb 01, 10 - 11:44 pm Comment from: DogGone

It's Piece of Crap

UI is not what defines a smartphone, so why don't *you* define what a smartphone should be and then judge whether Nokia-phones meet these criterias.

You are no better than SA if you don't put your money where your mouth is...usually the specs of features in Nokia smartphones exceeds iPhone by a far margin.

Having said that, the UI isn't even close to that of the iPhone.

.... hmmm. Yawn.
But the telling stat goes unreported people.
Who actually made money on their sales?
We know Apple does, but who else?

The day my phone has an IQ of at least 130 I will call it smart