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Hooray, Senator Klobuchar

Now if it would only pass this month....

Another honest mistakes is signing the contract in blood then taking the Droid home and then learning though use what you have gotten into.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:06 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I wonder how many MDN readers will bitch about the government getting into our private lives on this thread...

Nov 10, 09 - 10:08 pm Comment from: the other steve jobs

i don't want you to eat meat any more - it is shown to lead to heart disease and obesity. Therefore, you are no longer allowed to eat meat because it is for the greater good.

you mock this because you are stupid and don't own a history book.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:09 pm Comment from: the other steve jobs

ChrissyOne likes government intrusion on our lives.

such as: she wants the government to determine how many people can be a loving family. After all, she's for marriage between any TWO people - a number she picked out of the air.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:09 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ the other steve jobs

Good job!

Nov 10, 09 - 10:18 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ the other steve jobs

Hey, did you hear? We have gay almost-marriage in Washington state now.
Just think! Now you can lay awake every night, sweating and crying as you toss and turn, unable to sleep due to your preoccupation with gay sex, and your incessant, insatiable curiosity about what those dangerous homos are doing in their sinful evil beds.
WHO KNOWS WHAT'S NEXT?!?! DOGS AND CATS, LIVING TOGETHER!!! MASS HYSTERIA!!!!

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go confuse your kids.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:23 pm Comment from: ron

You're now Chrissy 69.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:24 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

HAHAHAHA...

Naw, I'm much more of a do-it-yourselfer, like my conservative role model, Carrie Prejean.

So what Constitutional power am I missing that this senator is aware of?

@chrissyOne

I think TOSJ was referring polygamy - thus the emphasis on TWO people.

Nov 10, 09 - 10:45 pm Comment from: rollman

Chrissy 69, I like it...

As if ChrissyOne could ever find a partner

Nov 10, 09 - 10:58 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Hmmm

Oh I know. And any idiot that brings up polygamy needs to first understand what a sexist they are.

You can only make a polygamy case if you only let men have multiple marriages. Of course you assume this would be the case because you're a sexist.
If women could also have multiple marriages, then polygamy would allow an unlimited number of people to be involved in a marriage. And if you can't understand why that if different than a gay couple who prefer not to die alone, then it's not worth my time even making fun of you.

@ right...

That's not what your mom said.

Nov 10, 09 - 11:06 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Come on, guys, is this all you got tonight? Frankly I expected so much more.

Nov 10, 09 - 11:11 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Okay, I'm gonna go play the drums for a while, and I expect you Gops to put on those foil hats and give me some better material to work with.

@the other steve jobs—

i don't want you to throw your chamber pots and kitchen offal in the alley behind your tenement anymore - it is shown to lead to plague. Therefore, you are no longer allowed to throw your chamber pots and kitchen offal in the alley behind your tenement anymore. To help you comply, I'm going to raise your taxes so I can install a sewer system.

you mock this because you are stupid and don't own a history book.

fredo gets it.

Nov 10, 09 - 11:23 pm Comment from: silverhawk

@ChrissyOne
You go girl!

Nov 10, 09 - 11:38 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

@tosj

you ruined this thread with your ignorant contribution... I'm not familiar with your presence and that isn't likely to improve any time soon.

Chrissy you rock. Your comments actually lifted my spirits.

Nov 10, 09 - 11:42 pm Comment from: tbsteph

Verizon allows users to cancel there agreement within the first 30 days (So much for buyer's remorse.) Second, the early termination fee is waived if you move to an area without service. Otherwise, if you don't like the terms of a contract - don't agree to it. Finally, if termination fees are restricted by the like of the dear Senator, you may expect monthly fees to go up.

That's right, this kind of socialism is really getting bad. Verizon should have every right to add fees to your bill without your knowing it, and to double those fees when it wishes. That it informs you of this should be optional. I should also have a right to throw my old oil and paint thinners into the local river (which happens to be your drinking water), to hunt whenever and wherever I want, and to build a five-story house right up to your property line. And what right does the government have building roads and bridges with tax-payer money, what a lot of nerve!

The prevailing opinion overall seems to be:

Government is good if it benefits you, but costs others money.

Government is intrusive and bad when it benefits someone else just as much in some other way, but costs you money.

Nov 11, 09 - 12:59 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

Jesus... I've been away damaging my hearing all this time and the Gops have nothing. NOTHING.
Well done.
Good night all!

Nov 11, 09 - 01:11 am Comment from: breeze

I stopped at a Verizon store today to look at a Droid and was told that they can't show or demo it in store without first activating it -

So it looks like first they sandbag you into buying it , then zap you with a whopping cancelation fee if you don't like it and opt out.

Fucking unbelievable!

Way to go Verizon - make some loyal customers...

Sheesh.

These guys will legislate anything.

@ Chrissy

We now have the scientific proof that Liberals are smarter than Conservatives.

Nov 11, 09 - 02:04 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Giles

You had me at "Sarah Palin".

Nov 11, 09 - 02:16 am Comment from: Priused

Thanks ChrissyOne, you rock!

Kudos to Minnesota Democrat Senator Amy Klobuchar for this bill.
It's about time someone does something about these outrageous fees!

Nov 11, 09 - 05:18 am Comment from: Yours Smugly

Thanks for the intelligent input, ChrissyOne.

Vote conservative —big corporations need your help!

I'm not sure I see what this is going to do. Will congress dictate what the early termination fees will be? The last time I renewed my contract, with verizon, that long piece of paper I signed said exactly what the terminations fees were. When I signed it, there is no way they can send me a letter and say they are raising the fee. It's a signed contract. If AT7T want high termination fees, that's up to them, but once you sign the contract, then I see no way they can change it (I looked at my old one and it had the dollar figure, not 'ETF subject to change'). Am I missing something? I can't see why this is needed.

Vote liberal - BIG government needs your help

"Vote liberal - BIG government needs your help"

Haha. Funny. Not that this makes things right or wrong but the Wallstreet that liberals complain of is owned by and employs Mainstreet.

@ChrissyOne;

The only reason GOP'ers aren't giving you better material is quite simple... The only place GOP'ers "think the way you think they think" is in your mind.

Get over yourself, please. Your self declared superiority is annoying.

Nov 11, 09 - 08:13 am Comment from: HueyLong

'Wall Street is owned by Main Street'

Whaat? Main Street who exactly?? If you think that Chevy car dealer "owns" Wall Street, then you're even more delusional that Carrie Prejean.

Mr Capitalist, you have that backwards [have you been drinking... and so early too?]

Are we sure that's actually ChrissyOne? It doesn't read like her normal posts... syntax, tone, etc...

Leave it to a Dem....

Why don't they believe that capitalism works? Let the free markets do their job.... If the termination rates are too high, competition will resolve it... You always have the option of choosing a shorter contract period & paying a higher price for the device (that's what I do & what Consumer Reports recommends)

The LAST thing we need is the Nanny-State stepping in to screw things up some more... These are the same morons in Congress who blew $800B on a so-called 'stimulus' to keep the unemployment rate below 8%... we all know how that went... Would you trust the vile Nazi Pelosi to run a lemonade stand? Whenever that liar speaks, I can hear the wind whistling through the pine trees in her mind. She's had so many facelifts she looks like she's in a perpetual wind tunnel!

This same scenario happened in California in the early days of cellular. In the Nanny-State's view, CA decided that it was in the people's best interest to not allow the cellular carriers to bundle phones & service contracts... It resulted in phones costing 10X as much as any other state in the nation b/c the carriers couldn't subsidize them...

One of many great Ronald Reagan quotes; "The nine scariest words in the English language are; 'I'm from the govt. and I'm here to help.'"

Nov 11, 09 - 09:10 am Comment from: G4Dualie

This bill hasn't even reached committe yet, and already the brain dead among us are over reacting as is par for those who never took a civics course in their life.

Those of whining about govt intrusions and encroachment on wall street will be off and running to some other tea party before we've resolved this issue.

You aren't interested in the truth, you just want to scream and yell while getting tea bagged.

Nov 11, 09 - 09:30 am Comment from: Mac-nugget

How did this go from early termination cell phone contracts to gay marriage. I know our country is polarized, but this is ridiculous.

@ Capitalist

The commerce clause. It can be used to justify just about anything.

"Whaat? Main Street who exactly?? If you think that Chevy car dealer "owns" Wall Street, then you're even more delusional that Carrie Prejean."

Er, if the owner of that Chevy dealer or any of his/her employees have an IRA or 401K, they in fact DO own a piece of Wall St. (duh!) I think you've been listening to your Marxist college professors for too long who've never held a REAL job!

BTW, the only reason why libtards personally attack people's intelligence like Carrie Prejean is b/c you have no intellectual arguments against them...

Remember, it was a vile libtard who thrust her into the national spotlight, she was just a young girl who, when asked a question, gave an honest answer....

The REAL reason why you attack people like Carrie is b/c libtard women are androgynous shrews w/ flat chests & hairy armpits... ala Rachel Maddow the Cow or simply fat & ugly like Joy Behar... (which is why liberal guys are all secretly gay... OR hide in their govt. subsidized housing secretly watching Megyn Kelly & Julie Banderas on Fox News w/ their doors locked & shades drawn!) LMAO!

Nov 11, 09 - 09:39 am Comment from: IndyMac

IMHO congress has an obligation to ensure a level playing field. I don't every remember the people granting congress the right to tell business what their policies and prices will be. We are losing our liberties.

Freedom = The ability to act without external influence.

Nov 11, 09 - 09:51 am Comment from: stormy

Soon we will be able to say "there's a law for that".

Nov 11, 09 - 09:59 am Comment from: HazMatt

This thread illustrates precisely why I hate politics soooo much even though I'm passionate about it—the knee-jerk bickering that tends to go on on each side of the issue. Number of minds changed: 0.

If I may venture an opinion…

The reason conservatives (like myself) are so skeptical of government regulations such as the one Mrs. Klobuchar is proposing is that all too often the unintended consequences rear their ugly heads later, sometimes well after the initial feel-good legislation has passed. Regulation on private businesses usually results in higher prices elsewhere to compensate for the new strains that they must endure, and at the very worst it causes businesses to close their doors.

It is so easy to demonize those of us who criticize moves like this because on the face of it, it SOUNDS like the cell carriers are price gouging (and maybe they are). But I would argue that there are other, more healthy mechanisms in place that are a waaay better option than government involvement.

HazMatt

These idiots needs to go tackle real issues. It's none of the federal government's business.

>>You aren't interested in the truth, you just want to scream and yell while getting tea bagged.

Nah, we're not interested in loser liberals who wouldn't know how to work for what they have if their lives depended on it. You still living in mommy and daddy's basement?

We've gone so long without any substantive consumer rights or protections that it seems many conservatives have forgotten what they look like.

You guys are so scared of government pinching your butt that you don't even recognize when corporations leash you and bend you over.

Nov 11, 09 - 10:43 am Comment from: NCIceman

Boy, I love how this president has polarized liberals and conservatives. Easy to forget these are problems INHERITED from a republican (but clearly not fiscally conservative) administration.

While I vehemently disagree with early termination fees, if the cost of the device is subsidized, then the company does have the right to recoup those costs. I would rather this be more clearly stated rather than tucked in termination fees.

"We've gone so long without any substantive consumer rights or protections that it seems many conservatives have forgotten what they look like."

Sounds like you've gone so long w/o reading the US Constitution (if you ever) that you've forgotten what small govt. looks like....

What the Dems have delivered is exactly what the founding fathers warned against & attempted to codify in the Constitution....

Nov 11, 09 - 12:21 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Jings

You're right, it totally wasn't me. The real ChrissyOne is sitting at home, reading Ayn Rand, and working on her Tea Party sign that says:

KEEP YOUR GOVERNMINT HANDS OFF MY SOSHAL SEKURITY!!!

Later she's going to go protest with other rich white people.