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Jul 25, 08 - 05:23 pm Comment from: ken1w

> No one has ever been successful licensing technology platforms to others and then competing with a device of their own

I guess that's true enough. Zune was created to complete with Microsoft's "partners" who licensed Windows Media. And it wasn't very successful.

The Motley Fool just happened to report on the same subject and they, too, didn't give it much of a chance.

http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2008/07/25/the-zune-phone-gimme-a-break.aspx

Jul 25, 08 - 05:34 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Dang, I was wantin' to buy one-
For those times when I need to talk sh!t.....

I think it is time to block all information regarding the Zune...it is dead, done....time to let it rest in peace. Nice Job MS....

Jul 25, 08 - 05:39 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

No shit.

{rolls_eyes}

Jul 25, 08 - 05:46 pm Comment from: BiZarRo BaLlmEr

If Ballmer wants a Zune Phone, Ballmer GETS a Zune Phone.

Zune and ZunePhone = Dumb and Dumber

ZuneTang and Afib (and his other names) = Dumb and Dumberer

hey, what about the oPhone!?

Jul 25, 08 - 05:57 pm Comment from: mtngoatjoe

It's weird, three people in my small office like their Zunes. Of course, three of us have iPhones and unlike the Zune folks, we actually use our products.

Jul 25, 08 - 05:57 pm Comment from: amyhre

The Zune: Phone Edition. It now calls home to Microsoft and if they think any of your movies or songs are pirated, they collectively bust your ass. I could see something like that happening, but Microsoft introducing an actual Zune Phone is likely to be just something more for us to laugh at.

Jul 25, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Even Ballmer knows better than to dump his money *directly* into an open sewer. He likes to pretend it's going to be productive along the way.

The Zune platform has failed. Everyone that has any sort of planning or budgeting function on the Zune team knows this.

Your iPod Killer hasn't made a bloody dent.

So do you think Ballmer is off his axis enough to think that releasing a color-me-poop phone is now also a good idea?

...

*GOD* I hope so. >.<

-c

Jul 25, 08 - 06:00 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Mr. Ballmer,

Bring. It. On.

If M$ sold their zunes in the woods would any hear them?
I can see their ads now with Zuneytunes "ba dee ba dee ba dee that's all folks"

I was in the middle of a Teleport on my iTele when the Zune Phone I was using crashed.

Not good!

Jul 25, 08 - 06:12 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I'd like to remind the class...

That Motorola Q phone that SB (...ballmer, not Strong Bad) so lovingly promoted many moons ago...?

Ninety-Nine Dollars!!!

Remember how Motorola was so proud of its numbers for the first month of Q sales? I do.

Remember how Apple knocked them to the floor, beat them to a thin, greasy paste, bisected the body and filesystemconsistencychecked the eye sockets?

Yeah. Good times.

Great things are afoot, earth man. Come now or you will be late.

Jul 25, 08 - 06:16 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

What do the analysts know? Nothing. The ZunePhone will be a revolutionary, easy to use device that works where it counts: the enterprise. And it will be a platform. I'll remind you MAC babies that Microsoft knows a thing or two about building platforms. Around this time next year everyone will have forgotten about the I-Phone. Why? It doesn't have an FM radio.

Keep hope alive.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Jul 25, 08 - 06:18 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Zune Tang®

You complete me.

Clearly, Microsoft missed their target market with the Zune.

Add a couple lead wires and the Zune could have been an MP3 player slash multitester. Next, swap out the FM for HAM radio and ohmygod! they'd sell dozens of those.

Jul 25, 08 - 07:22 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

Zune Tang,

Here is the platform that MicroSoft is presently building. It will fit them perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallows

A Phune ...?

Jul 25, 08 - 07:28 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

The Truth,

I've heard that MicroSoft is developing an audiophile version of the Zune. They will begin manufacturing as soon as they figure out where to mount the vacuum tubes.

Huh? Oh, yeah, shhh! (Sorry.) We mean: "May Ballmer run Microsoft for as long as it takes!"

Jul 25, 08 - 08:12 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

As it stands, Microsoft must look really very enviously upon the iPhone. They couldn't possibly have built a more consumer unfriendly, locked up device than the iPhone, and made people smile while standing in line to pay ridiculous amounts of money for it.

They must think, "Gee... we were the kings of making people pay through the nose for highly controlled and restricted environments. What happened??"

Any other telephone in the world you can buy and just put your SIM card in and it works, but the iPhone? Nope. Microsoft must drool over this.

Any other cell phone in the world, if you upgrade, you can give your old one away to charities or friends or whatever. With the iPhone you can't do that.

Can you imagine, donating your old iPhone to a battered women's charity but when the phone is given to someone, she can't just get some cheap plan, she's got to get at least a $100 a month plan, plus some kind of data plan.

Oh and illegal aliens need not apply. You need Government approved I.D. to activate your iPhone.

Wow. Not even Microsoft can make people line up and wait literally for hours to be handcuffed.

Nope, a Zune phone is unlikely because no one can duplicate this consumer experience.

Jul 25, 08 - 08:18 pm Comment from: MacIrish

Now that BG has headed for shore, and the SS Balmer has left port, it will be interesting (to say the least) to see where it heads next...

Get your facts straight. You most certainly can give your old iPhone away to friends or sell it on craigslist. I did just that with my first-gen iPhone when I bought my 3G. You just pop out your SIM card, and the person you gave the phone to goes to an AT&T;store, signs up for service and gets their own SIM card. It's just like any other phone in that regard.

Why would a battered women's shelter want an iPhone? Wouldn't people in those facilities prefer the pay-as-you-go Tracfone and Go phones and Boost phones you get from Wal-Mart?

It would be like giving a battered women's shelter a blackberry. Sorry, there's no pay-as-you-go, Where You At Dawg plan for the blackberry either.

Oh noes illegal aliens can't buy an iPhone! How awful! Because you know how many illegal aliens are in the market for 3G smartphones.

Apple doesn't compete with the $200 eMachine PC, and it doesn't compete with the Tracfone from Wal-Mart. Get over it.

"We see no lines for such mobile telephony devices. None. Crickets."

Microsoft sold 20 million Windows Mobile licenses while Apple sold 6 million iPhones. Of course, that's "licenses," so we don't know how many of them are sitting on shelves...

I was actually at Microsoft last week. I couldn't resist walking into their on-campus AT&T store and asking if they had any iPhones (they didn't--if they had any, I'd've bought one right off just to say, "I bought my iPhone while at Microsoft!"). I was surprised that the store on campus didn't even have a Big-Ass Table in it!

The iPhone has been available only in a small market up until a couple weeks ago. Now that it's worldwide, I fully expect iPhone sales to pass Windows Mobile license sales.

Jul 25, 08 - 08:58 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

"Oh and illegal aliens need not apply. You need Government approved I.D. to activate your iPhone."

Gawd, that's really a lame one. Poor dears should be exempt from our laws, eh? Give 'em drivers licenses too!

@thelonius: "Any other cell phone in the world, if you upgrade, you can give your old one away to charities or friends or whatever. With the iPhone you can't do that."

Yes you can. The only part that won't work is the phone, which is just a small part of it, the rest is an iPod touch, with a mic as well. Cellphones are a stone age anachronism kept alive by the death-grip of the service providers and their hold on the infrastructure, which could otherwise be used much more efficiently.

Jul 25, 08 - 10:12 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

@Peter

You were right there, where the magic happens. That is so cool! What's it like?

Your potential. Our passion™

the iphone has had its fair shares of crap...
from software BUGs to build quality of the latest 3G!

this is my 4th iPhone 3G in one week...!

Jul 25, 08 - 10:59 pm Comment from: Greg L

“Turds for sale! Get your turds here!!”

I find it hilarious that Microsoft has trashed the entire industry, with their terms.
For example, 4 years ago, the word "Vista" was seen in every apartment/home as a nice description. Come today, the word "Vista" is no where.

Likewise, the term "windows". They use that rarely, often referring to the glass instead.

Thanks Micro$oft, we're running out of good english adjectives

What do the analysts know Zune Thang? Nothing, but for once they and the public are making good use of their money by using it to buy iPods and iPhones.

So the ZunePhone will be a revolutionary, easy to use device that works where it counts: the enterprise? When Zune Thang. You have been spewing this will happen and that will happen and your so called predictions make an analyst look accurate.

It will be this it will be that, just wait. Well time's up, we have been waiting.You said that bullshit about a year ago "around this time next year everyone will have forgotten the ipod and squirting into a Zune." Well they aren't Zune, the public got it from the start and even the analysts are getting the blatantly obvious. The only ones that don't get it are MS and those with their heads stuck up so far MS's asshole that they smell Ballmer's farts before he does.

So from what I see in your reply to Peter, you are not from MS.

You kill me!

I'm still rolling on the floor over "where the magic happens".

Absolutely hilarious!

Thanks!

Jul 26, 08 - 07:25 am Comment from: chaz

I thought Ballmers memo to the troops was strange. Here they are out selling Apple by 30-1, yet, they have decided they need to be more Apple like.

Ballmer admitting that the 29 are lemmings and "afraid to change", and that M$ need to get off its collective "arse" to mount a defense before they wake up. If I was a shareholder, I'd be selling in the face of this memo. The CEO who thinks there's a boogey man behind every door. The Company who cannot co-exist with others and figure out a way to make money in a market it has to share with others. Just look at markets where they don't dominate, truth is they lose money in each and every one. Why, their products are mediocre and rely on people buying them because that's what everyone does.

Guess what, phones are personal, and people aren't going to buy one because everyone else has one. The phones going to have to be good and satisfy multiple neds.M$ isn't going to dominate phones, there are already too may other good providers out there and people aren't going to be led around by their nose. This is guaranteed to be another money losing venture for M$.

Every forum has a troll it seems.
They sit in their bedrooms in their mother's house goading total strangers with no useful or constructive ideas of any kind.
Poor sods.
Ignoring them is probably the most humane thing.

Jul 26, 08 - 01:21 pm Comment from: Cubert

If Micro$haft squeezes out a Zune phone, it will give new meaning to the word "craptacular".

Can't wait for the Phune - LMAO.

>Come now or you will be late. As often as possible too!

Chrissy,

You sure have a way with words.

-jcr

lol mac luvers r funny

Jul 27, 08 - 08:18 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Now that the alien invasion is (officially declared as) imminent, you have to wonder what phones they'll choose. Will His Steveness allow a special queue?

The new iPhone - made for 16.7 million shades of "grays."

Jul 28, 08 - 10:46 am Comment from: ElderNorm

Hey, don't put down the Zune!!!

in just 12 months, Microsoft sold 1,000,000 of them.

Then in just 11 months, Microsoft sold 1,000,000 more. See. They are just flying out of the factory into warehouses everywhere.

Of course, it did help that many of those second million sold were super super discounted Zune 1s, but hey, a number is a number. :-(

Just a --- sad--- thought.

en

zunes are nice
try to pick a 80gb zune and then try an ipod i own bouth zune has a touch pad aswell as a kilckey thingy apple locks down on all there products

ever try to put itunes music on you phone? o wait you cant can you up grade the graphis card in the new imac nooooooooooo you have to bring it to the apple store apple is just a nother control freaak comeny and in the zune phone (if there is one) you probally will be able to chang the battery.

Jul 29, 08 - 12:37 pm Comment from: Sir Gill Bates

Please tell me that was a joke!