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Dare I say it? Oh, ok.

Hasta la VISTA, baby!



MW: Matter, as in: Vista does NOT matter.

When you piss in the wind, all you dampen is yourself....

And the beauty is that there is very little Microsoft can do about it other than spend more money on advertising - which isn't likely to make much difference because switchers have likely made their decision already knowing about or even having experienced Vista. It's not as if they can all of a sudden make Vista good.

Come onnnnn, you know de saying: Life is like a dogsled team. If you ain't de lead dog, de scenery never changes.

It's become de current Microsoft motto. Staring at Apple's backside and taking it like de low-down dirty shitzu's they really are. Yeh-heh-hehehesssssss . . .

I POOP on them.

My swarmy PC using brother-in-law told me over the weekend that he's sick of the new Mac ads; they must be working.

Vista is the largest and most expensive virus ever developed. OS X is the cure.

But, just watch out for Ballmer with a bat coming to your town soon. He's huge and he's crazy.
You'll recognize him by the bolts in his neck, giant pit stains and the chirping turtle boy with glasses perched on his shoulder.

Mac n' Cheese: "My swarmy PC using brother-in-law told me over the weekend that he's sick of the new Mac ads"

I think he's upset because there's not enough T&A;in them.

"Greetings to all intelligent life-forms everywhere. And to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together guys!" -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy"-

Need I say more?

Ruben Francia writes for VISTA.BLORGE.com.

The thought of installing Vista makes me "blorge" all over my keyboard.

From the vista.blorge.com web site:
> Clockwise from top left:
> John Pospisil, Triston McIntyre
> Ruben Francia, Jonathan Schlaffer
> James Cornelius, George Gardner

What a bunch of nerdy looking geeks! Oh, wait, they look just like me.

In the long run we will see that Vista actually helped Apple says in the year 2007. Microsoft made the only blunder they could have made...they released an OS that forces the common user back into the personal computer market to buy a whole new machine. That is why the emphasis of the new Mac ads ain't switch to a Mac..it's get a Mac...Microsoft made sure everyone has to dump their PeeCee hardware. That was the biggest road block to Apple's resurgance, how do convince people to dump $2k worth of hardware from another vendor and buy ours...M$ provided the solution. Thank you Mr. Ballmer!

Just my $0.02

Max OS?

Is this determined by people browsing with Safari? If so, this would not include those using FireFox, Camino or Opera (or IE). I'm sure this would be a small percentage, but it would increase the overall numbers.

blorge = blog + borg + e?
MW: clearly

Mac sales are surging NOT "despite" Vista's launch, but BECAUSE of Vista's launch. Windows users are obviously trying to avoid Vista at all cost. Proof - Dell is offering XP again as an option. The other option consumers are considering is getting a Mac. It's clear that they are not just considering it, they are buying.

"Dampen"???

It's more like Fista was a bucket of gasoline poured on Apple's Mac OS X fire.

Quite the contrary, if anything it is helping push more people towards the Mac.

I agree with ken1w:

If a PC user wants to avoid the troubles they hear/read about Vista, for the first time in their life they have to make an OS choice (they usually only make hardware choices and get the latest OS). Is it 'old' XP or 'new' MacOS. We should be asking Parallels how many of their sales are to existing Mac users and how many to switchers.

@LorD 1776

Web stats include OS as well as browser. Some for yesterday:

25189 695 Windows
364 298 Known robots
4820 123 Macintosh
237 40 OS unknown
212 13 Linux

First column is requests, includes images etc; second column is pages served.


Windows breakdown:

22675 628 Windows XP
1822 40 Windows 2000
452 17 Windows 98
177 8 Unknown Windows
36 1 Windows ME
21 1 Windows Server 2003
6 0 Windows NT

Presumably Vista is in 'Unknown'

Over 200 different browsers identified! Mostly different versions of IE.

"The other option consumers are considering is getting a Mac. It's clear that they are not just considering it, they are buying."

Yes, and Microsoft just sold as many Vista copies in the last few months as Apple will sell OS X copies in the next 5-10 years. Clearly Vista is a flop and the Mac rules!

re: reality

"The other option consumers are considering is getting a Mac. It's clear that they are not just considering it, they are buying."

Yes, and Microsoft just sold as many Vista copies in the last few months as Apple will sell OS X copies in the next 5-10 years. Clearly Vista is a flop and the Mac rules!

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YEP - youre exactly correct.

VISTA IS A FLOP.

For a company who has 94% global market share of in stalled OS this figure is shameful.

Let's face it, the only reason why Vista has sold more copies that OS X is because people have bought new pcs with Vista pre-installed.

If Apple did the same with all the other pc box manufacurers then Vista would be still born.

"For a company who has 94% global market share of in stalled OS this figure is shameful."

So Apple has pathetic share, so low sales are OK. Microsoft has massive share, so selling more than Apple's ever sold is a failure?

By whatever metric you use Microsoft is handing Apple it's ass on a plate. And that's just Vista sales.

We're talking 4-5% of the installed base going to Vista in a matter of months. As always, wait 2-3 years almost everyone will be there.

"Let's face it, the only reason why Vista has sold more copies that OS X is because people have bought new pcs with Vista pre-installed."

Gee that's a good argument why it's a failure. it's a failure because people are buying tens of millions of copies pre-installed on new PCs. Mac OS X however is not a failure because in the same time it's sold at least a million and a half copies pre-installed on new PCs.

Again, the appeal to numbers, as though any group of people doing things in mass automatically makes it good. What kind of logic is that? It's the same old line. People are buying Vista in droves! Look child, the vast number of Windows sales are to businesses. If you work in a business you'll understand this ten minutes after you step in the door. If you addict the IT guys, then you get a thousand machines or so as a gimme. It's basic. Now if Vista sales are really taking off, they must be taking off somewhere that isn't the continental United States. No-one I know anywhere here has seen people clamoring to get Vista. So where are all these buyers? They're mythical, just as Window's "ease of use".

"Again, the appeal to numbers, as though any group of people doing things in mass automatically makes it good. "

Whatever the reason people are buying Vista, it doesn't change the facts. Apple is getting it's ass handed to it on a plate.

"Whatever the reason people are buying Vista, it doesn't change the facts. Apple is getting it's ass handed to it on a plate."

That's not a fact, thats an opinion, loosely based on a fact.

Another, more important fact is that, Mac's are stealing market share from Windows whilst Vista is stealing only from XP. This means that following the progression that's occurring in the market, Mac will surpass Windows at some time in the future.

Thankfully, Apple looks content to hand Micorsoft it's ass where it really counts; delivering a seamless user experience and not locking them into some money grubbing scheme.

"That's not a fact, thats an opinion, loosely based on a fact."

No, sorry it's fact. Microsoft is outselling Apple 20 to 1. If your favorite sports team scored one point for every 20 their opponent did, you'd say that their ass was being handed to them on a plate. If they lost every year for the last 20 years. You'd say that they were a bunch of losers.

"This means that following the progression that's occurring in the market, Mac will surpass Windows at some time in the future."

That would be true if growth went on forever. You sound just like the FireFox and Linux guys did when they were going to take over the world by now. The truth is all products with tiny share have some scope to grow, but at some point that growth tapers off and stops. For the last 3 quarters Mac sales have been flat or shown negative growth.

So to reiterate, Apple is getting their ass handed to them on a plate.

No sorry, it IS an opinion...

and Re your so called fact; announcing 40M copies of Vista shipped to stores around the world amounts to nothing more than a clever marketing ploy. One intent on masking the fact that their monopoly has clearly been compromised for the first time in 10 years. Each percent of their user-base that is lost represents a huge threat to the future of their empire, and you're the only one here who doesn't 'get' what's being referred to. Reality my ass, your either ignorant or deceitful.

Oh yeah, I could care less whether or not Apple increases its market share, seeing how effective they have been in building great products (and how well they're doing financially) I just want them to keep the incredible software /hardware coming.