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CNET’s Windows Vista poll should scare the heck out of Microsoft and the Windows box assemblers
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:28 AM EDT

CNET is running an instant poll wedged into a puff piece in which CNET's Ina Fried gushes about the free stuff he got from Microsoft at the Windows launch - that's one way to manufacture a bit of rare good press, eh, Microsoft? Although, why anyone would be excited about free boxes of Vista and Office, mystifies us as always. "Excuse us, can we have the less painful bamboo shoots shoved under our fingernails instead, please?"

Anyway, the poll asks: "How soon do you plan to move to Microsoft's latest OS?"

The current results:
• I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon. - 37.9%
• Whenever I buy my next PC. - 26.5%
• Windows XP is going to last me a good, long time. - 25.9%
• I'm standing in line right now to buy it. - 9.8%
Total votes so far: 7,154

Not good news at all for Microsoft and the Windows box assemblers, but it certainly bodes well for Apple Inc.

Fried's puff piece and the poll (voting's still open) are here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "TR" for the heads up.]



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Jan 31, 07 - 10:33 am Comment from: OZZ

Way to go!

Jan 31, 07 - 10:34 am Comment from: Steves Job

Well, no need to say what I voted for. If you need a hint, I'm sitting at my iMac typing this, so I can't be standing in line to buy Vicrosoft Mista, can I?

Jan 31, 07 - 10:39 am Comment from: pieterdebecker

I'm almost standing in line to buy my first intel mac. (I own 6 powerpc macs)

Jan 31, 07 - 10:40 am Comment from: Mozfan

I voted.

Looks like Mac is already up to 38.5% in just the last few minutes...


~M

Jan 31, 07 - 10:40 am Comment from: Jeff

They should have split the answer "I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon" in two.

Jan 31, 07 - 10:41 am Comment from: pieterdebecker

@ Jeff: I couldn't agree more

Jan 31, 07 - 10:44 am Comment from: Viktor

Well, I am sitting at my XP PC at work, but I wish it was a Mac, in fact, I use Mac at Home, after working hours with trouble maker windows PC, it is like vacation to get home and use a Mac.

Jan 31, 07 - 10:44 am Comment from: Trans

I think you meant "she" not he anymore....

Jan 31, 07 - 10:48 am Comment from: MacFinn

CNN is also running a quick vote:
Updating to Vista
Yes, right away 6 %
Eventually, no rush 76 &
I don't use Windows 17 %.

14300 votes and counting

Must be pretty scary

Jan 31, 07 - 10:48 am Comment from: Petey

Just voted! wink

Hell can freeze over before I will consider ever buying any version of a windows OS.

Magic word: 'Freedom' - I think all us mac users know what that means smile

Jan 31, 07 - 10:48 am Comment from: John

So... only 35% of the people actually reading Ina's article (which is itself a pretty focused crowd) has the intention of moving to Vista in the near future (immediately or when they buy a new machine)? That's pretty dreadful numbers.

"Wow" indeed!

MW: public, as in the public has spoken!

Jan 31, 07 - 10:49 am Comment from: Simple Math

"Not good news at all for Microsoft and the Windows box assemblers, but it certainly bodes well for Apple Inc."

Nonsense, it is almost like polling people at BMWs website and concluding that most people are buying BMWs, and that means trouble for Toyota.

The number of people that are power users of computers are eclipsed by the average consumer and the average consumer buys whatever the current $400 Dell happens to be.

Jan 31, 07 - 10:53 am Comment from: John

For those interested, here's the link to the page with the CNN poll (toward the bottom on the left):

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/01/30/vista.launch.ap/index.html

... and how about som truth in advertising from Microsoft:

"The 'wow' is in, like 6 to 8 months, or when I get around to it, or when my POS Dell box explodes and I have to buy a new machine...."

Jan 31, 07 - 10:56 am Comment from: Macaday

Generally people in the know can make a choice. For the rest they barely know that Microsoft Vista isn't the name of a computer rather than an OS.

What chance for them?

Anyone see the report that 94% of email in December was spam. I recall Gates being interviewed -in December?- saying that spam was less of a problem now...

Is he in touch with reality anymore? I doubt it.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:04 am Comment from: Decrypt3

Especially after you clowns link to it from what is probably the Apple zealot capital of the Web, it's not a scientific poll.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:04 am Comment from: scottm4321

Newest results:

I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon. 40.5%
Whenever I buy my next PC. 25.4%
Windows XP is going to last me a good, long time. 24.9%
I'm standing in line right now to buy it. 9.3%

Jan 31, 07 - 11:07 am Comment from: .RO

40.7%

Jan 31, 07 - 11:08 am Comment from: Erl

I think the interesting stat here is the first:
• I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon. - 37.9%

The rest dont really surprise me. What percentage of Mac users are gonna upgrade to Leopard right away? Probably not all that many, cos most will wait for bugs to be ironed out, or for it to be pre-installed on their next computer. Personally I'm going to wait until around september or october as I plan to buy a new Macbook or Macbook Pro sometime around then. (12" MacBook Pro would be amazing! here's hoping)

Jan 31, 07 - 11:09 am Comment from: ury

Does it really matter? All Window bassed machines that will ship from this day forward will include Vista.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:18 am Comment from: Macfanboy #12

Sheesh...who would think that maybe, possibly, the results were skewed by an attack of Macfanboys?????????

Remember, Today for every 100 computers will be sold...only 5 will be Apple brand.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:18 am Comment from: Steve's 2nd Half Brother Twice Removed Thrice

We'll see how these numbers look a year from now. Then, they'll have some leverage. Early polls mean little.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:22 am Comment from: Truth Decay

Decrypt3:

"Especially after you clowns link to it from what is probably the Apple zealot capital of the Web, it's not a scientific poll."


WHAT ? ? ? ! ! !

Whew! Thank God we have caring, intelligent people like you to explain that to us! Please, please monitor every article on MDN and for the love of all that is holy warn us when you spot a trap like that again. We desperately need your insight.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Everybody give Decrypt3 a big hug and a warm thank you.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:25 am Comment from: therepguy

FYI

As of 9:23 AM (CST) this morninG THE Mac Number was up to 42%!

Gate is getting out at about the right rime - the ship is slowly sinking and the rats are running!

Jan 31, 07 - 11:27 am Comment from: 8R

Is it a conflict of interest to give writers freebies? It should be a conflict for a "journalist," but I really don't know about writers or bloggers.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:28 am Comment from: DJ

Ho ho, a simple click and the Mac share goes to 42.5%! cool smile

Jan 31, 07 - 11:28 am Comment from: ron

Seems like they have eliminated the Mac part of the survey.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:30 am Comment from: Unsquirted

I thought Ina Fried was a puff piece.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:31 am Comment from: TR

Simple Math

I disagree. Your anology would work if this vote was initiated by MDN, on MDN. It was NOT! This pole was initiated by and is buried in a Windows centric site, in an article with a non "mac" hook, that was in a subsection of general "Vista release" related articles. Not a place where you would expect to find many Mac users. So it is not "preaching to the choir".

It was 9pm est Tuesday when I first read this and voted, the numbers where then very much as they are now...37% favor Mac. That was over 12 hours ago. Not much has changed except for the vote hit count.

Since I sent the headsup to MDN this morning, the vote now has a direct link to the "Early Adopters" (me since 1984) and I would expect it to get a little skewed. Maybe not...at least not that much. A few % points???

Readers...Please if you vote.... only once. I would rather know the realistic number as opposed to the number we want to see. Although it looks like they are one in the same.

Is the end near for MS et al? No! But they are sure losing customers. Particularly those with a choice.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:32 am Comment from: deedubya

The "Yawn" has dawned

Jan 31, 07 - 11:35 am Comment from: bjh

42.8% grin

Although Micro$oft aren't really too worried, I'm sure. They know they will make money from new OEM sales... Sigh. But people are finally starting to wake up and realise what a piece of doo-doo Windoze is. Now if Apple have a good marketing blitz when Leopard is launched...

Jan 31, 07 - 11:39 am Comment from: British Mac Head

I predict the Mac will be up to 50% in about an hour grin

I'm sticking with the Mac--or moving there soon. 43.1%
Whenever I buy my next PC. 24.3%
Windows XP is going to last me a good, long time. 23.8%
I'm standing in line right now to buy it. 8.8%
Total votes: 8207

Rising steadily guys. I am not surprised. Three of my Windows using friends have switched this month and I met two guys duting a piss-up (pub crawl, binge drinking session) that said they were looking for Macs. It's happening...

Here comes the revolution and all it took was Vista's sheer crappiness to tip the scales. Thanks Microsoft. I knew you wouldn't let us down grin

MDN word: "high"

As in. "you would have to be high to buy Vista!!!"

Jan 31, 07 - 11:40 am Comment from: Less is More

Real slow news day, it seems - yesterday's poll...high res' pikkies of an orange shuffle. Meanwhile, today in Iraq, it's just another day. And that's the ground truth.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:46 am Comment from: RevNeal

What is most interesting is that it reached over 30% sticking with or switching to the Mac BEFORE MDN posted this summary and thread. That's BEFORE we Macfanboys found out about it and flocked to it.

Jan 31, 07 - 11:47 am Comment from: Heat_fan1

Hate to say it, but a Mac-lovers site linking to the poll will definitely kill the validity of the poll. Not that it was very valid to begin with, being a webpoll on a tech site. if you want to reach the more general public, take a poll on the street, or even on CNN or FOX News website. For example, CNN's poll reveals that 76% of those polled will "Eventually" upgrade to Vista.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if a higher percentage of Mac users were more familiar with Vista than PC users. Perhaps you guys feel threatened by Vista?

Jan 31, 07 - 11:59 am Comment from: UH OH

I think those poll numbers will start turnig when people realize that Vista faster than OS X:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/microsoft-vista-faster-on-a-mac-pro-than-apples-own-os-x-232402.php

And this from of your own. LOL

Jan 31, 07 - 11:59 am Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

Many Mac users know about Vista because they are technophiles and/or have to use Windows at work. Being afraid of Vista is classic. Oh, do you suppose fear is motivating our interest? *laughs* Wow. That's all I have to say. Wow.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:06 pm Comment from: matt

i partially agree with heat_fan1. i'm sure cnet will justify the results by saying that a bunch of mac "freaks" went and clicked on it. i ask this, however - WHY DOESN'T THEIR VOTE COUNT? they have a mac, and they're sticking to it, or, they're planning on buying one! what does it matter how they were referred to the site? cnet's readers are primarily windows users, aren't they? they have just as much an opportunity to vote for vista as anyone else. i also very much doubt that thousands of people came from MDN to vote on cnet. i've been hearing from many sources - non mac-biased sources - that they either aren't excited about vista, or they don't know anything about it. ask some random person "are you excited about vista?" if they are (hell, if they even know what you're talking about), ask them why. the best they'll be able to do is blab off the PR stuff. better security? that has yet to be proven (and that assessment is being generous). better looking? granted, but is that worth spending the money on when you could just buy object desktop? directx 10? yeah. that's one reason. guess who knows what dx10 is? NERDS. GAMERS. a small percent of vista's potential customers. mom and grandma aren't about to spend that kind of money on something just because it looks nicer. WOW, that argument sounds familiar! only this time, there's validity to it!!

Jan 31, 07 - 12:06 pm Comment from: UH OH

WOW THIS: VISTA IS FASTER. SO SUCK ON IT. YOUR CULT LEADER ADMITTED AS MUCH.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:07 pm Comment from: Mark

Just voted. I am planning on moving to Mac in the fall this year. By that time a new MacBook should be available together with Leopard, Office 2008, Adobe Photoshop CS3 and all those new neat things that people keep writing about. I am so glad that I discovered Apple after so many years of Windows. I started with Atari 65 XE, moved to PC 286, than 386 and many more PC clones later on. I have just tried a MacBook in Staples store here in Canada and was amazed with the operating system. It is so intuitive, logic, beautiful and ... (I would never have thought I would say that about an OS)... cool.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:09 pm Comment from: AlanAudio

"Perhaps you guys feel threatened by Vista?"

Yes - just like Zune was a threat to iPods.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:13 pm Comment from: UH OH

Pete and Leander at Wired’s Cult of Mac blog decided to test out Microsoft’s new Windows Vista on their Mac Pro using Bootcamp. The results were shocking… Vista may have actually run faster on Apple’s own hardware than their own OS X. Kind of embaressing. Here’s an excerpt from their experience:

Jan 31, 07 - 12:14 pm Comment from: UH OH

Ironically, one of the fairest reviews of Microsoft's Vista comes from Pete and Leander over at Wired's Cult of Mac blog. They tell us what the Vista experience is like on a Mac Pro using Bootcamp, with much praise.

Vista really flies on this beast, and feels like it's faster than OS X - it boots faster, folders burst open and apps launch instantly...I'm especially delighted with Vista's "glass" Aero interface, which works in all its glory on this machine...The OS is dark and handsome. It's really quite exciting...Vista's icons are big and colorful, and frankly, a lot more logical and easy to read than some of OS X's, like the intelligible iWeb icon.

Of course, that speed is subject to OS operations only, but still. And Zune support works for him...wait, this is a Mac blog, yes?

Yes.

Of course, in many ways it's the same old Windows. There are pop-up dialogs galore thanks to the new security features, and the Start menu, though slimmed down, is still a confusing mess. Maybe it's just me.

There we go.

Of course, the results on the portables will vary, especially with the Standard Macbooks and their far less significant video procs. Right now, support is spotty. Send me in guides and reviews of how Vista runs on portable Macs, please!

Jan 31, 07 - 12:16 pm Comment from: matt

vista is faster than what? xp? os x? hm. oh, and turn your caps lock off. i am not part of a cult. i don't worship steve jobs or my computer. i simply like my computer better than a windows computer. if vista were everything it had been cracked up to be - if it could have PROVEN to be better than mac os x - i would have switched back without a second thought. yes, i tried vista. no, it's not better than mac os x - there are things about it that are even worse than in XP. i am loyal to a better experience, not a brand. right now, apple offers a better experience. if MS does someday, i'll use their product. so stick your "cult" bullshit where the sun doesn't shine.

i came back to mention that even hardocp.com, a tech-centric site that has always had a bit of a bias against mac, has very little good to say about vista. go there and check out what they think.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:16 pm Comment from: matt

scratch that first question i asked, you posted before i did =)

Jan 31, 07 - 12:19 pm Comment from: UH OHq

Why is MDN ignoring this story?? They don't have the balls to post the link.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:26 pm Comment from: @UH OH

Enjoy your malware, BIOTCH!!!!

Jan 31, 07 - 12:27 pm Comment from: Emil

45% smile

Jan 31, 07 - 12:36 pm Comment from: United States of Generica

UH OH: We don't know that it "runs faster" as no benchmark tests have been run. Will be interesting to see what Photoshop CS3 render times are on OSX vs Vista on same Mac.

In the meantime, saying that 'folders burst open' and 'apps launch instantly' is maybe down to rendering and is subjective opinion.

I for one have run Vista, I even put the RTM version on the day it was available at MSDN, but subsequently removed it and replaced it with XP. In my opinion it didn't appear any faster than XP, but had huge problems with drivers (none available for lots of hardware) so no sound and 3D graphics 10%-50% slower than XP, and with backwards compatibility broken (32-bit software with 16-bit installer packages won't install, even in 'compatiblity mode').

Jan 31, 07 - 12:36 pm Comment from: AshNazg

@ UH OH,

From the anxiousness of you, I would more likely assume YOU were from some sort of freaky cult.

That was hardly a scientific approch at determining if Vista is faster and MANY factors can come into effect (Vista was probably a BRAND NEW install with nothing else on it/in memory). To do a true test, both OS's would have to be clean installed and a more scientific approach would have to be used. THEN, one would have to conduct the same test in a year after normal use of both OS's... THEN I'd like to see which would be faster (although, from experience I know it would be Mac OS – I was an IT manager for many years who SWORE by Windows and downed Mac at every opportunity I had... Until I was exposed in detail to the Mac OS. Now I am a Mac lover and can't stand Windows.)

Good day.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:42 pm Comment from: Sure Am Relieved

Of course partisans skew polls like this, particularly if they allow multiple votes like cnet seems to allow.... (and cnn doesn't seem to). A warning on multi voting would be nice so we can tell for sure (time to generate fake packets/fire up the zombie network? smile )

However, dozeheads, if they really like doze, will multi vote also. And tell their friends. Does this cancel it out?

So its hard to predict how skewed this is. If there are an equal number of passionate folks on both sides, they will cancel each other out. Macheads tend to be more passionate (heck, when you have something good, you tend to be passionate), but I've run into a number of people that really like doze, for, in my view, dubious reasons (biggest is I can build one cheaper, next marketshare).

Probably the only useful thing to track is the relative difference in these polls over the years. Since the shine is off The Microsoft Felon's flagship product, and Microsoft in general, relative to where it was; with Apple, in the same interval, doing extremely well, it would seem that there would be more Mac people who care enough to skew polls now vs then, and less doze people.

Now, will this show up in these polls compared year over year? Probably, but hard to say for sure, and hard to predict how much.

And it certainly is highly flawed, statistically, without doubt. I would expect a trend change tho.

Jan 31, 07 - 12:45 pm Comment from: Emil

They've just changed the name to vista..all other features seem to be the same (balmer sells win 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk

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