Apple CEO Tim Cook has issued a company-wide message regarding U.S. President Trump’s executive order, “Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States” which
Team,
In my conversations with officials here in Washington this week, I’ve made it clear that Apple believes deeply in the importance of immigration — both to our company and to our nation’s future. Apple would not exist without immigration, let alone thrive and innovate the way we do.
I’ve heard from many of you who are deeply concerned about the executive order issued yesterday restricting immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries. I share your concerns. It is not a policy we support.
Apple CEO Tim Cook at U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s tech roundtable in DecemberThere are employees at Apple who are directly affected by yesterday’s immigration order. Our HR, Legal and Security teams are in contact with them, and Apple will do everything we can to support them. We’re providing resources on AppleWeb for anyone with questions or concerns about immigration policies. And we have reached out to the White House to explain the negative effect on our coworkers and our company.
As I’ve said many times, diversity makes our team stronger. And if there’s one thing I know about the people at Apple, it’s the depth of our empathy and support for one another. It’s as important now as it’s ever been, and it will not weaken one bit. I know I can count on all of you to make sure everyone at Apple feels welcome, respected and valued.
Apple is open. Open to everyone, no matter where they come from, which language they speak, who they love or how they worship. Our employees represent the finest talent in the world, and our team hails from every corner of the globe.
In the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, ‘We may have all come on different ships, but we are in the same boat now.’
Tim
MacDailyNews Note: President Trump issued an official statement on Sunday, regarding his executive order:
America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave. We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting. This is not about religion — this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days. I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.
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Here is President Trump’s executive order, “Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States,” verbatim:
Protecting The Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into The United States
President TrumpBy the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq., and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Purpose. The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans. And while the visa-issuance process was reviewed and amended after the September 11 attacks to better detect would-be terrorists from receiving visas, these measures did not stop attacks by foreign nationals who were admitted to the United States.
Numerous foreign-born individuals have been convicted or implicated in terrorism-related crimes since September 11, 2001, including foreign nationals who entered the United States after receiving visitor, student, or employment visas, or who entered through the United States refugee resettlement program. Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism.
In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.
Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to protect its citizens from foreign nationals who intend to commit terrorist attacks in the United States; and to prevent the admission of foreign nationals who intend to exploit United States immigration laws for malevolent purposes.
Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall immediately conduct a review to determine the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the President a report on the results of the review described in subsection (a) of this section, including the Secretary of Homeland Security’s determination of the information needed for adjudications and a list of countries that do not provide adequate information, within 30 days of the date of this order. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a copy of the report to the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence.
(c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).
(d) Immediately upon receipt of the report described in subsection (b) of this section regarding the information needed for adjudications, the Secretary of State shall request all foreign governments that do not supply such information to start providing such information regarding their nationals within 60 days of notification.
(e) After the 60-day period described in subsection (d) of this section expires, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a list of countries recommended for inclusion on a Presidential proclamation that would prohibit the entry of foreign nationals (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas) from countries that do not provide the information requested pursuant to subsection (d) of this section until compliance occurs.
(f) At any point after submitting the list described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security may submit to the President the names of any additional countries recommended for similar treatment.
(g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
(h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this order within 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 days of the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
Sec. 4. Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs. (a) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall implement a program, as part of the adjudication process for immigration benefits, to identify individuals seeking to enter the United States on a fraudulent basis with the intent to cause harm, or who are at risk of causing harm subsequent to their admission. This program will include the development of a uniform screening standard and procedure, such as in-person interviews; a database of identity documents proffered by applicants to ensure that duplicate documents are not used by multiple applicants; amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intent; a mechanism to ensure that the applicant is who the applicant claims to be; a process to evaluate the applicant’s likelihood of becoming a positively contributing member of society and the applicant’s ability to make contributions to the national interest; and a mechanism to assess whether or not the applicant has the intent to commit criminal or terrorist acts after entering the United States.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of this directive within 60 days of the date of this order, a second report within 100 days of the date of this order, and a third report within 200 days of the date of this order.
Sec. 5. Realignment of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for Fiscal Year 2017. (a) The Secretary of State shall suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) for 120 days. During the 120-day period, the Secretary of State, in conjunction with the Secretary of Homeland Security and in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, shall review the USRAP application and adjudication process to determine what additional procedures should be taken to ensure that those approved for refugee admission do not pose a threat to the security and welfare of the United States, and shall implement such additional procedures. Refugee applicants who are already in the USRAP process may be admitted upon the initiation and completion of these revised procedures. Upon the date that is 120 days after the date of this order, the Secretary of State shall resume USRAP admissions only for nationals of countries for which the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of National Intelligence have jointly determined that such additional procedures are adequate to ensure the security and welfare of the United States.
(b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.
(c) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.
(d) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of more than 50,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017 would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I determine that additional admissions would be in the national interest.
(e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship — and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
(f) The Secretary of State shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of the directive in subsection (b) of this section regarding prioritization of claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution within 100 days of the date of this order and shall submit a second report within 200 days of the date of this order.
(g) It is the policy of the executive branch that, to the extent permitted by law and as practicable, State and local jurisdictions be granted a role in the process of determining the placement or settlement in their jurisdictions of aliens eligible to be admitted to the United States as refugees. To that end, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall examine existing law to determine the extent to which, consistent with applicable law, State and local jurisdictions may have greater involvement in the process of determining the placement or resettlement of refugees in their jurisdictions, and shall devise a proposal to lawfully promote such involvement.
Sec. 6. Rescission of Exercise of Authority Relating to the Terrorism Grounds of Inadmissibility. The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Attorney General, consider rescinding the exercises of authority in section 212 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182, relating to the terrorism grounds of inadmissibility, as well as any related implementing memoranda.
Sec. 7. Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry-Exit Tracking System. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedite the completion and implementation of a biometric entry-exit tracking system for all travelers to the United States, as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.
(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the President periodic reports on the progress of the directive contained in subsection (a) of this section. The initial report shall be submitted within 100 days of the date of this order, a second report shall be submitted within 200 days of the date of this order, and a third report shall be submitted within 365 days of the date of this order. Further, the Secretary shall submit a report every 180 days thereafter until the system is fully deployed and operational.
Sec. 8. Visa Interview Security. (a) The Secretary of State shall immediately suspend the Visa Interview Waiver Program and ensure compliance with section 222 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1222, which requires that all individuals seeking a nonimmigrant visa undergo an in-person interview, subject to specific statutory exceptions.
(b) To the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of State shall immediately expand the Consular Fellows Program, including by substantially increasing the number of Fellows, lengthening or making permanent the period of service, and making language training at the Foreign Service Institute available to Fellows for assignment to posts outside of their area of core linguistic ability, to ensure that non-immigrant visa-interview wait times are not unduly affected.
Sec. 9. Visa Validity Reciprocity. The Secretary of State shall review all nonimmigrant visa reciprocity agreements to ensure that they are, with respect to each visa classification, truly reciprocal insofar as practicable with respect to validity period and fees, as required by sections 221(c) and 281 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1201(c) and 1351, and other treatment. If a country does not treat United States nationals seeking nonimmigrant visas in a reciprocal manner, the Secretary of State shall adjust the visa validity period, fee schedule, or other treatment to match the treatment of United States nationals by the foreign country, to the extent practicable.
Sec. 10. Transparency and Data Collection. (a) To be more transparent with the American people, and to more effectively implement policies and practices that serve the national interest, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General, shall, consistent with applicable law and national security, collect and make publicly available within 180 days, and every 180 days thereafter:
(i) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been charged with terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; convicted of terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; or removed from the United States based on terrorism-related activity, affiliation, or material support to a terrorism-related organization, or any other national security reasons since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later;
(ii) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been radicalized after entry into the United States and engaged in terrorism-related acts, or who have provided material support to terrorism-related organizations in countries that pose a threat to the United States, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
(iii) information regarding the number and types of acts of gender-based violence against women, including honor killings, in the United States by foreign nationals, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
(iv) any other information relevant to public safety and security as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Attorney General, including information on the immigration status of foreign nationals charged with major offenses.
(b) The Secretary of State shall, within one year of the date of this order, provide a report on the estimated long-term costs of the USRAP at the Federal, State, and local levels.
Sec. 11. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Trump going to town. Kinda refreshing for once a politician is actually doing exactly what he said during the elections. And the liberals and media are having coronaries as usual. Pretty damn hilarious.
Wow. If your standard is merely “doing exactly what he said during the elections,” you’re a scary dude.
One of the biggest things I heard from people who wanted to pretend they weren’t deliberately voting for a bigot was “he doesn’t really mean all the racist things he’s saying. It’s hyperbole.”
Meanwhile, you’re like “Yay! The genocidal maniac is sticking to his guns! Don’t back down, Hitler!”
Those who recklessly go down the Godwin’s Law path have my utter contempt for their lazy, simple-minded & brain dead political analysis abilities. All lib roads lead to racism & Hitler for those simpletons & morons out there. Makes it easier for your limited comprehension abilities to understand. The equivalent of a shameless cliche catchphrase for idiots. Wow indeed.
Tim, please put your energy and focus into the CEO thing. Your employees need you to lead and unify internal Apple concerns and not divert attn with the cultural/political wave of the day. Instead, please be more laser-like and focus on the credo that’s served Apple well for decades…make the best stuff. I trust that you, VPs, Board and other Directors, can work out the visa matter more directly and to the point behind closed doors.
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If Pipeline Timmy REALLY cared, he’d organize & lead a gay rights parade in downtown Baghdad.
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A better nickname for Cook is “Backdoor Timmy.”
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Better yet in Mosel or Tehran.
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“I trust that you, VPs, Board and other Directors, can work out the visa matter more directly and to the point behind closed doors”
This was an internal letter to employees – behind closed doors.
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Krioni – you need to look up racist and see what it means. Not sure that you have contemplated that one thoroughly. it would be refreshing to have Progressives use their noggins for once. Based upon the definition of racist, Trump is NOT one. You may disagree with his views and his policies, but you aren’t winning any favors with a false narrative.
Don’t listen to the biased liberal liars in the mainstream media. Do not be swayed by George Soros-funded “protesters.” Both are a sham and not indicative of ideas and support of the majority of U.S. voters.
Most voters approve of President Trump’s temporary halt to refugees and visitors from several Middle Eastern and African countries until the government can do a better job of keeping out individuals who are terrorist threats.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a temporary ban on refugees from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen until the federal government approves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Just 33% are opposed, while 10% are undecided.
Similarly, 56% favor a temporary block on visas prohibiting residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from entering the United States until the government approves its ability to screen for likely terrorists. Thirty-two percent (32%) oppose this temporary ban, and 11% are undecided.
Hitler was not a socialist. He was a fascist. Sweden is an example of a socialist country. Nazi Germany was not.
Those are facts. Not “OMG the name is similar therefore…” facts, but actual facts. Please read some actual history books about the period. You will learn a lot.
You’ve just linked to an article that says Nazism was a militaristic and conservative-leaning ideology based on totalitarianism.
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Read it again. It explains National Socialism (Nazis) and Hitler’s role in the socialist movement in Germany.
Socialism is a totalitarian form of government that relies on militaristic force in order to expand and stay in power.
Hitler was a socialist and that is an actual historic fact.
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What happen to the two countries who actually brought down the World Trade Center, if they aren’t the list it’s pointless.
The list came from Obama’s administration for one and two it’s for current countries with ISIS in them. What scares me are the kids. Yea, awww poor kids, but they are brainwashed early to hate America and if they get in our borders and 10-20 years from now it will be a bad thing if they are radicalized. No one is talking about this! Iraq and Syria are some of the top ones!
By “brainwashed,” do you mean that when U.S. bombs destroy their villages and kill their families, someone points out how fucked up that was?
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I am also concerned about the kids who are being brainwashed early to hate Muslims (along with “colored folks” and “nasty women,” among others). 10-20 years from now it will be a bad thing if they deal with the rest of the world as they have been taught. No one is talking about this! (Well, obviously they are, just as folks are talking about the risks of radicalization.)
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The list came from the places that are muslim and that Trumpery does not do business with. Period.
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stump is beholden to them and the russians financially.
I am ambivalent about this particular policy. I admit that most of the Executive Order is presented in a fairly reasonable manner. Clearly, the President has a responsibility to protect the U.S., and implementing a 90-day stay for the new Administration to review existing policies and implement improvements is within the realm of reason.
However, I also have some concerns regarding the temporary stay on refugees, the 50,000 cap in 2017 on refugees, and the generally open-ended nature of the EO with regard to endpoints for resuming immigration and refugee movement from the identified countries.
Part of my concern lies in the rhetoric that Trump and his people employed during the campaign. If you consider what Trump has said in the past, then it is natural to view this EO with great skepticism and concern. As has been demonstrated throughout human history, great evil is often seeded with the best of intentions and the most reasonable of statements and policies associated with “protection” and “safety.”
I am giving Trump a chance to show his Presidential quality (which was sorely lacking in the election process). However, this EO must end promptly in a few months with clear and positive steps in refining our immigration and refugee policies.
trondude and kent – your partisan hyperbole just harms your stated objectives. You should chill out and be reasonable for a change. Your label and disparage campaign is pitiful and ineffective. One cannot accurately define “Democrats” or “liberals” in a sound bite any more than one can define “Republicans” or “conservatives.” You are oversimplifying and exaggerating for effect, but it undermines the foundation of a logical argument. It isn’t that simple and you are foolish to believe so.
Take a look the the LAX protests. How many of the 4K protestors do you believe are conservative? Zero. Zulch. Nada. And that is not a conspiracy theory. It is a bunch of LIBERALS. Do you think they are reasonable? Blocking traffic and causing many people to miss flights? Don’t be so blind man….
trondude, what percentage of the total democratic base do those protestors represent? Yet you label all democrats based upon that sample? Ridiculous.
Should I label all conservatives based on the Tea Party? Or Jerry Falwell’s religious right? Or the radical alt-right groups?
Don’t be so blind, man. The world is far more complex than you appear to believe. Oversimplification leads to error. Error leads to growing problems.
I laid out the issues quite reasonably. If you don’t like it, then “whatever.” I have dealt with you and Fwhatever and botty and kent for far too many years on this forum. I am not going to go extremist just because you want me to do so. I am a moderate and a rationalist. Emotional appeals and simplistic labeling and arguments will not work with me.
Constitution is working just fine. Your not. Reboot yourself and wake the F up.
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Liberals hate The Constitution because it was written by dead white male Christians and had the effect of creating the most successful and most prosperous and most free country from nothing in the history of the world. Mainly the Left hates freedom which the Constitution protects. The left loves government power as Barack Obama said as a law professor and as he showed while in office. Obama said as a law professor the Constitution puts too many negative limits on the power of the State to tell people how to live. Naturally the Left’s model nation is Cuba, where the inmates (the people) are treated to three hour speeches weekly from Fidel telling them how perfect their lives are. As the people ponder how to turn trash bags into boats to get to America and the founders liberty.
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Could not have said it better. Bravo!
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Liberals fight to support the Constitution and rule of law. That’s one of the main purposes of the ACLU (and they fight for conservative’s rights as much as anyone else’s). No, our model nation is not Cuba: it is The US as our founders intended it to be (minus the slavery). Why would a liberal hate freedom? We want freedom as much as you.
I have conservative friends with whom I disagree with on politics, but I would support them in a time of need, and I know that they would do the same.
Is it possible for less name-calling and civilized discussion?
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What a crock of shite, kent! I do not know of anyone in this country, regardless of political affiliation, who “hates” the Constitution. You appear to be incorrigible.
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You just indicated you are a moron. Liberals HATE the 2nd Amendment. They hate free speech by people they don’t like and have tried many things, like the Fairness Doctrine and others to stop Americans from saying things liberals don’t like. Liberals hate the limited Federal government role and the fact that states have the power to decide most things, like Education, with no Federal control. Liberals now hate the Electoral College and want it eliminated.
You are just stupid.
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On the road to a one-party state, eh?
“We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause… Our enemies shall talk themselves to death and we will bury them with their own confusion.”
Hard to believe you’re an American. The right of dissent is inherent to the US Constitution and its 1st amendment. When you label others as “scum”, because their beliefs are different than yours, you degrade the very foundations upon which this country was built. Perhaps a constitutional law class might help educate you about the value and responsibility of citizenship and what it means to be an American citizen.
You and your fellow Sorosian thugs might note that the First Amendment guarantees “PEACEABLE assembly.”
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OH, excuse me. Liberal GUTTER TRASH. That better?
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If there is a serious terrorist attack in this country, Trump will say that he tried to work on our security, in the face of being harassed by a bunch of leftist freaks, while Tim will be silent. That is particularly ironic, since countries such as the seven on that list are the worst human rights abusers in the world.
Yeah Heroin, that’s just a foolish comment. Trump’s a strange dude, but malevolent? C’mon.
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He won’t wish it, but if it happens he and his team will make the most of it to crack down on civil liberties. It will only take some fake or twisted facts to appear on Fox News about the event and he’ll be implementing impulsive and ill-thought out policies within the hour.
I only hope the attack when it comes isn’t as serious as the one the last GOP administration allowed to happen through their arrogance and incompetence.
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Funny how the two countries that brought down the World Trade Center towers aren’t on that list:
Pre: absolutely nutty. Logic would add Pakistan as well. All of the above have madrassas that educate the minions to execute (pun ok) what the ban is to safeguard. The list was a “left-over “from O’s admin, but that’s no excuse.
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Saudi Arabia, by request of Our Beloved President, has agreed to pay for and house Syrian refugees.
nice try, dickhead.
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Not correct (i.e. “alternative truth”). By request of “your beloved president”, Saudi Arabia has agreed to support the idea of safe zones in side Syria and Yemen, so that those refugees wouldn’t have to leave their countries. Nice try.
As for hosting (and paying for) Syrian refugees, Saudi Arabia has been housing over 100,000 displaced Syrians. Officially, they are not called refugees by the government; they are simply Arab brothers in need. The distinction without practical difference might mean something to the Saudis, but it obviously created a lot of noise elsewhere in the world, especially around the nationalists, who protested the flow of all those Syrians into the EU, while Arabs presumably accepted none.
You really need to verify your sources before posting.
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“Yet, while Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt have taken in around 5 million refugees, and boatloads of the destitute are making their way to Europe, the Gulf states have taken only a few hundred refugees, according to data from the UN’s refugee agency (UNHCR).”
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Oh, and the fact that Saudis are now “supporting safe havens” doesn’t change the other fact that Saudis had bred most of the terrorists responsible for the Twin Towers attack, and that country continues to support terrorist training (logistically and financially).
Too many oil and real estate interests by presidents of the US (current and prior) are entangled with the Saudis to put it on the list of terror supporters…
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Trump said he wasn’t necessarily finished with the list…you remind me of the old Simon & Garfunkel lyric:
“A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”
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That would at least explain why Trump was elected in the first place. People having any sense certainly doesn’t explain it.
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Pre…yes again. I can see no rationale consistent with the exec order that wouldn’t include Saudi Arabia…none. Personally, I think they have a place in the ME–financial power, namely– that, if included in the EO, would shake the already wobbling Islamic foundations, to a very uncertain & undesirable end. Besides “membership” and “mindset,” they are likely the main purse for the terrorist nuttiness. As said before, I don’t understand Pakistan’s omission either.
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I don’t see ANY specific countries stipulated in President Trump’s executive order. Where did the list of seven countries that everybody says are covered by the order come from?
In December 2015, Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address “the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters.”
Again, where were you protesting Soros pawns then?
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“Limited restrictions on certain travelers to had visited…” does not equal ripping families apart, handcuffing 5 year olds and banning people on the basis of where they were born (which is against the law, the 1965 immigration act).
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So just how many were inconvenienced? Like 50. Wow. The world must now end. Stupid is as stupid does (you).
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They handcuffed children. They defied court orders. They banned members of Congress from seeing the detainees.
How un-American does it have to get before you condemn it?
More hyperbole, please! It’s burying you and your kind. You’re burying yourselves, morons!
It’s a 90-day pause. You’ll live and, thanks to President Trump, so will more American citizens after our border security is tightened to prevent radical Islamic terrorists from killing innocent victims, unlike what we suffered in multiple acts of carnage under the feckless Obama.
This order won’t prevent terrorists who want to get in the the US.
What it WILL undoubtedly successfully do is spur rapid radicalization of many young Muslim Americans throughout the US. You know, the ones excluded form the ban, because they were born and raised in the US, but are now rapidly being made to feel hated by the US government and its new president.
The net result of this ban will be fresh new batch of home-made, American-born terrorists.
Where is Chuck Norris when you need him?
hidin’ from Donald Trump. 🙂
Now you are just repeating what the media wants you to repeat. You’re brainwashed, wake up and snap out of it and look at other news!
Country of concern is different than banning everyone from that country. The problem with the Trump order is that regardless of your character, ability or visa status, you are banned. (Read section 3c of his order). Such a ban based purely on nationality is against the 1965 law. That is why many courts in the country has put a stay on his order.
It was passed into law by Obama. Bills don’t become law until signed by the President. Try to keep up with the basics, at least.
Again; it wasn’t Obama’s executive order. It was a law passed by the two houses of parliament. Had Obama vetoed it, you would have been the first to express outrage.
Whatever is done with the Visa program, Tim Cook and the rest of the Silicon Valley crowd can cry me a river. They sure had no issues whatsoever with outsourcing millions of jobs for cheap labor in India, China and elsewhere over the past 15-20 years to save some bucks.
Now the chickens are coming home to roost and these hypocrites are only worried about their own bottom line. They don’t care one bit about combating terrorism, protecting citizens or doing what’s right by American workers. It’s all about their profit margins, so Tim Cook can spare us the righteous indignation.
No, it’s okay to have government enforce existing immigration laws and strengthen border security in order to protect the citizens who government officials are sworn to serve.
Stopping H1-B visa abuse by the likes of Tim Cook isn’t “fixing capitalism.” It’s fixing a visa program that’s been abused by Tim Cook and his ilk for years to the severe detriment of American workers and their families.
No that’s not what Tim Cook Said. Your HEADLINE IS WRONG!! He does not support the ban on muslim immigration. He said nothing about not supporting protecting our nation against terrorists.
Wrong. The executive order does not ban Muslim inmigration. It does affect immigration from 7 named nations, but doesn’t affect immigration from more than 40 other nations, where the vast majority of Muslims live.
Those 7 nations were previously named by the Obama administration, because of concerns about difficulty of confirming information about individuals seeking to migrate to the U.S.
Alan, there’s nothing but emotionalism and silly logic in your statement. You imply: a ban on any country in the world would be “ironic” b/c it would affect 100% of the country of immigrants…to no disrespect to the Native-Americans. It’s the majority wins mindset that’s “jello-izing” the American mind. Ra-Ra My Team…go
Syran immigrant. Who wouldn’t be allowed in Trump’s America.
For 90-days and, then, Abdulfattah Jandali would have passed improved vetting (since he was obviously not a radical islamist terrorist) and come into the country to premaritally knock up Jobs’ biological mother Joanne Schieble and put Steve up for adoption and we’d all still have Apple and our electronic goodies.
As they were in no position to bring a baby into this world, Abdulfattah Jandali’s and Joanne Schiebl’s baby should have been ABORTED!!!
Right, because people are normally perfectly able to put their entire life on pause for 90 days, especially when they don’t know if the original plan will ever pan out.
Abdulfattah Jandali would never even bother with Trump’s America. After this travel ban, many other developed countries will benefit from the talented migrants that originally sought better life in America, but had the wrong passport.
Exactly how many terrorists have been caught so far by this ban? Zero. And how many more will be caught? Another big fat zero.
America doesn’t need to import its terrorists. It is perfectly capable of growing their own: from McVeigh (Oklahoma), to Syed Rizwan Farook (San Bernardino), Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga), Dylann Storm Roof (Charleston, SC), Nidal Malik Hasan (Ft. Hood, TX), plus several smaller-scale anti-government terrorists, all home-grown. The two Boston Marathon bombers were born in Russia (Chechnya), but came to the US as little kids and were raised in the US.
There is no doubt in my mind that some potential terrorists may be dissuaded from traveling to the US after this ban, but the total net effect on terrorism in the US will be at best negligible, and quite likely a major recruiting point for radical islamists. Nothing radicalizes misguided youth than messages that people like you are banned just because of your religion. While the order itself is clear that it is NOT about the religion (it only talks about countries), that will be impossible to explain to most Americans, who see it clearly as the fulfillment of the campaign promise of the Muslim ban.
In other words, rather than protecting America and reducing the flow of terrorists, this ban will very likely fast-track radicalization of many young Muslim Americans who would have otherwise grown up to become ordinary law-abiding citizens.
At last – a sensible post. Wonder how trump will ‘go after’ home grown terrorists. Bye-bye civil liberties!
Tim Needs to stay out of politics and repair Apple.
Mac pro not updated in years.
iPhone 6 battery problems.
No current tech wireless routers.
No Apple monitors.
Outdated iMacs, Mac Minis, and macbook airs.
If Cook wants to be a politician, leave Apple and run for office. Otherwise STFU and deliver products that are worth buying.
That is quite a persecution complex that you have, trondude. You should carefully read and consider my post above. A bit of introspection might lead you to the realization that you are floating down conspiracy creek towards the bay of insanity.
Dude, seriously…tune into any Hollywood ceremony. The first thing out of anybody’s mouth is political diatribe. Why can’t they just focus on their work(films and acting) and leave the politics out of it? I’ll tell you why, because Hollywood hates Trump and republicans, and will always take the opportunity to slam them every which way they can. They cannot resist or help themselves. You are blind man.
There is nothing unusual, new or even fundamentally wrong with that. Most of intelligent people tend to have a political opinion one way or the other. Americans’ political position has been growing increasingly polarised over the recent decades, and everyone with an opinion has becoming more and more passionate about their own side. And those who are in the public eye tend to take advantage of that exposure and make it a point to advocate for their side. This is in no way exclusive to Hollywood; others do the same thing. All those mega-church leaders, with following perhaps as large as the Hollywood’s audience, tend to very vocally profess their political support for candidates (or office holders) of their perfered political party , as well as against those of the opposite party. It is often profoundly annoying for someone who is simply spiritually religious to try to attend a religious service, only to have to listen to political diatribe against some candidate (or office holder), or promoting someone else’s political campaign.
Your opinion means nothing.
You are a waste of my time.
Enjoy your manipulated high star ratings that mean the world to you. And I will enjoy my manipulated low star ratings that mean absolutely NOTHING to me.
I know you don’t believe that, but frankly my dear — I don’t give a damn!
Adios … 🐎🔫🌵😎
I think you may be paranoid. To actually believe that there are people here who dedicate the time to visit MDN from multiple browsers (or hire clickfarms to do this for them) and click on various comments, just to they could feel better about themselves among a few dozen other people who tend to post regularly on MDN, that’s tin-foil, conspiracy-theory loony.
In other words, while it is true, as I said, the comment ratings have very little value, what is also true is that they are organic. Other than Botvinnik always immediately rating his own comments with five stars, I haven’t seen any evidence to indicate that there is a conspiracy to rate specific type of comments higher than others. Let us not forget the perspective here: this is a small, one-man-show tech blog with a few dozen regular readers who post comments. It is not a national election.
It seems to me that you are quite hung up on those star ratings and it hurts you very much that you can’t get them to go higher. Since I had apparently been blessed with consistently higher ratings, I will offer advice: lose the vulgar, insulting, offensive tone and stars will come. If you argue intelligently, and present your case articulately, I’ll be the first to give you five stars. Not in a single post here had I ever said anything insulting or offensive to you personally, or anyone else on this forum.
Good luck!
Preachy, tedious, blah, blah, blah 🐂💩!!! You are one SICK KEYBOARD ELITIST TROLL.
How is this for upping my approval ratings? STFU! 😜
Come on now, get with the program people — pretty please — down votes in 3… 2… 1… 🚀
Right on Chris!!! Tim needs to try to help Apple do better!! I’m done with that stupid coffee place in Seattle because of their jerk CEO ranting about politics. I’m fed up with these filthy rich jerks acting like they know so much about everything!
yeah, but Trump is the President of the United States, the most powerful office on the face of the earth…
Starbuck’s is a coffee shop chain.
Not only did the CEO of Apple but Google, Oracle, FaceBook, and many other companies are against this idiot ban. Basically the world is against it. Obama did not do this because it is not the right way to go about removing terrorist and it is not right for America. The origin of terrorist maybe from some of these countries but not all the people from these countries are terrorists.
Obama allowed all the terrorist sleeper cells to proliferate here already. Soon, something will happen. Trump is just fixing it now, so all you whining little panties grabbers need to deal with it. Blocking access to airports and such, just show how stupid democrats and liberals are. Wake up, it won’t change anything except showing how ass-holish and intolerant they really are. Every time they protest, they lose.
Trump is just making it worse. This Muslim ban won’t catch any terrorists coming in, nor it will prevent those hell-bent on coming. What it WILL do is spur radicalization of American-born Muslims, who now have one more (and big) reason to hate other Americans (and their new president).
As John Sununu pointed out on cable news this morning — Obama passed similar restrictions on countries like Iran, etc., not once, but twice during his presidency!
I don’t recall a corporate activist letter from you to your snowflake peeps, either time.
You have crossed over into partisan politics and choosing sides. Steve would fire you for these continued partisan actions that chooses sides, winners and losers. That is not inclusive.
I would rather you concern yourself with getting the bugs out of the code, yearly updates to the Mac line and an upgradeable Mac Pro that bests every other desktop computer ever made, once and for all.
John Sununu dis not tell the entire story. Obama did not have a blanket ban on all citizens of a particular country, only on those with war crimes, those on UN travel ban list, those with human-right violations. Such measures are necessary as America should not allow war criminals. Trump’s blanket ban (read section 3c of his order) is on the all citizens of a particular country regardless of their ability, character or visa status (except diplomats, those with NATO visa, or those having business with the UN). Such as blanket ban based on nationality is unconstitutional according to a 1965 law, that is why many courts in the country granted a stay on the executive order.
And let us not forget, that wasn’t Obama’s executive order; it was a law, passed by the US government (congress / senate). Obama did sign it into law, but when the president signs an executive order without bothering to ask the congress or senate is not the same as when those two bodies make the law of the land and ask the president to sign it.
That is EXACTLY what I said. He did NOT sign an executive order. It was a LAW of the land, passed by both houses of your parliament.
Again, had Obama vetoed this law, you would have been at his throat for that veto.
Great news for Syrian refugees, your odds for being relocated to a nation of the free and civilized world have just went up substantially.
It’s hard to believe but it’s true, your travel plans will be changing, pretty well ensuring that you will be going to a peace loving nation of the free and civilized world now, one that respects the sovereignty of others.
But wait there’s more, this tentative offer is also being made available to those from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Yemen. It’s an unbelievable deal an incredible deal, especially for those from Iraq. Frankly, do you really want to be relocated to the so called country that actually disregarded the sovereignty of your nation so that it could look for an IWMDP (Imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction Program), brutally tortured your fellow citizens in the process, probably murdered members of your family, and caused you to be a refugee in the first place?
We didn’t think so!!!
Yes it’s true, you too might be relocated to the truly great nations of the world, but you won’t hear them saying that, they are way too humble to go out and boast about it.
With love and determination, hopefully one day you’ll experience the joys and benefits of belonging to the free and civilized world, yes the one with real working moral compasses and humanitarian ethics!
It’s a declaration of peace. You bet the free and civilized world will be coming together to do even more than it can to save your lives.
For those of you from the free and civilized world, please do what you can to help these people, show them that there is room at your inn.
I am a 16 year stockholder and a 25 year customer. I have always held Apple and it’s management team in the highest regard because it had a unique focus on making great products and pleasing customers all across the world.
It is time for Tim Cook to be fired. He thinks his job is to advance political ideas and pays little attention to product leadership or customer satisfaction. He is an incredibly annoying CEO who should run for office or start an LGBTQ advocacy group. Then his behavior would makes sense.
“House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California, evoked an image of the Statue of Liberty weeping. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York teared up himself on camera as he seethed over the “mean-spirited and un-American” immigration ban.”
Overblown theatrical hypocrisy politics. When Obama did the same, I guess it was just swell. 🤔
In Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 40-year-old teacher Trista Carles said she had been ordered to keep her views about Trump out of the classroom.
“We were told to be Switzerland,” she said. “We’re not allowed to take any sides or views.”
Now, if we could just get Cook to be like Switzerland and get back to fixing Apple!
The unfairness of political HYPOCRISY does not bring us together. Not now, not ever. 🇺🇸
I wonder how US businesses, embassy employees and military personnel are going to continue to conduct business in Iraq? We are starting to go down the rabbit hole on some of this.
We just spent the last 14 years wasting American blood and trillions in treasure destroying and then defending Iraq, and now both countries are getting ready to stop citizens from the other’s country from entering.
If he were alive, Rod Serling could use all of this as the basis of a new script for an episode of Twilight Zone.
Whether I agree with Mr. Cook’s positions or not, here’s what strikes me:
Tim is very prompt with his public statements on matters such as this. Things not pertaining directly to Apple products. Something happens, BAM, here comes Cook with his prepared remarks.
Meanwhile the Mac Pro is now Jurassic in computer-age, the iPhones contain more and more bugs, software often DOESN’T “just work” like it used to, product launches are not smooth, whether it’s supply chain issues, bugs causing poor battery life or whatever, there’s always an issue. Can’t stay in product areas that help bring and keep people in the Apple ecosystem (monitors, routers, hello!?!?!?). My own journey to the ‘Apple side’ happened because of a couple such products. I got an iPod 3rd gen, loved it. A year or two later, after trying several different router brands and getting tired of constantly having to reset them to reconnect to the internet I tried an Airport Extreme. 2006 maybe? It’s still going strong and to this day it has not dropped my connection one time.
Now I’m Apple all the way. And don’t get me wrong, I love my iPhone, iPad and iMac. What I don’t love are the many areas of lackadaisical management and I see no signs of that changing.
Obama was an infidel. VP Pence and Cook are good men.
It’s about time that an American administration finally respects the Constitutinally protected freedom of religion so that my Moslem friends can finally begin to see the Koran and prayer rugs in our civil and criminal courts, at city halls, and also in schools on an equal basis with the Bible.
Tim Cooke is an activist , he’s running apple into the ground. Just build computers and don’t use the company as your megaphone. You’re failing at your job Tim.
Everybody keeps treating the Tim Cook memo like it was a liberal grandstanding press release attacking the Trump Administration. It was, in fact, an internal memo to Apple employees. It may have escaped your notice, but Apple is a multinational company with a multinational workforce that is based and travels worldwide. Apple has hundreds (at least hundreds) of employees who are arguably “from” one of the six countries (see footnote). Those employees and their coworkers deserved assurance that the company has their backs.
Would you prefer that Cook send out a memo telling his employees that the company was going to abandon them out of political expediency?
FOOTNOTE: The order applies to anybody “from” one of the six countries, but doesn’t define what “from” means. It has been interpreted broadly at most points of entry to include anybody born in one of the countries, even if they have spent their entire adult life in the country where they now live, work, vote, and hold a passport. There are millions and millions of people whose families have fled those countries over the years. They all fall into the excluded category.
Even beyond that, you don’t have to ever have set foot in one of the countries to be considered “from” there. For example, I suspect that Apple has a lot of employees who are “from” Iran because their families fled the country after the Revolution 37 years ago, or from Iraq because their families fled Saddam Hussain. Many countries (Saudi Arabia and the UAE among them) do not recognize “birthright citizenship.” The children of expatriates living in those countries acquire their parents’ nationality, but never achieve local citizenship. They will retain that essentially fictitious nationality their entire lives, even if they subsequently move and become citizens of a Western country.
The possibility isn’t just theoretical. A resident physician at the Cleveland Clinic was put on a plane back to her family in Riyadh ten minutes ahead of the court order Saturday night because she was considered “Sudanese” on that theory. She was given the choice of “voluntarily” surrendering her visa and being shipped back or being shipped back anyway under a deportation order that would have barred her from reentry for five years. Other people, including lawful permanent residents of the United States within months of citizenship, were offered the same coercive choice.
They could easily have been Apple employees. Should their company just abandon them?
Darwinism at work. Let Americans continue to kill other Americans in isolation, behind a big wall. The rest of the world will look-on and take note how much safer and tolerant the planet has becomes.
Did you guys really vote for this?!!! Maybe you should read some European history. (That’s that cute little collection of countries somewhere over near London, England.)
BTW, were Native American Indians on the deportation list? I understand that Uncle Sam missed a few way back a couple of hundred years ago.
Is this a mac news site or becoming an alt-right website. Start showing some interesting mac news here instead of the politics you are publishing recently.
It does seem as if it’s becoming an alt-right website. I have been losing my interest in the site because of it. It used to have good discussions about Apple/Mac stuff. Now it seems to be largely used by people who want to proselytize their right winged, hateful politics.
That totally balanced reports containing just the facts of events and verbatim statements seem to you to be “alt-right” only highlights how broken and leftist the mainstream media has become.
I have to preface this by saying that I am not a neophyte when it comes to what is now called the “alt-right.” I served a succession of Republican elected officials as a prosecutor for 30 years in what was once considered the toughest “law and order” jurisdiction in Texas, so I am not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination.
Exactly because I honor the U.S. Constitution and swore to support it, I prosecuted enough cases involving “alt-right” groups to make myself an acknowledged expert on the subject. I was a speaker at statewide meetings of both the prosecutors’ and sheriffs’ associations. There was a period when my family, home, and I were under enhanced police protection after a tangle with Alex Jones (InfoWars) and some of his supporters. I recognize that this posting may place us in danger again, but I still love the Constitution.
It is not spin but a simple fact that the Breitbart News Network ranks right up there with InfoWars as a voice of the “alt-right movement” of extremists and conspiracy theorists. No objective reader could possibly think that Breitbart is not dedicated to promoting, by any means necessary, the power of white male Christian Americans against anybody who fails to fall into all of those categories. Because I am a strict advocate of the Constitution, I find that position to be inconsistent with American principles.
Breitbart developed its “alt-right” character under Steve Bannon, who proudly proclaimed—and still proclaims—his role within the movement and the role of the movement in social disruption. That is not “broken leftist” propaganda, but his own boast. There is no more evidence that Bannon has changed his views since leaving Breitbart than there is that President Trump has significantly pivoted since he was calling for the exclusion of Muslim immigrants and the removal of Mexican-American judges during his campaign.
Statements from the White House that were obviously drafted by Bannon don’t just seem to be “alt-right.” They ARE alt-right, because he is Alt-Right, and his movement has captured a major role within the United States Government. It did so by conducting an astonishing assault on the very concept of truth as something more than just one of a variety of alternative viewpoints. As I keep saying, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. Lies do not become truth simply through repetition, even if the liar has been elected President of the United States.
Trump banning millions of people born in seven largely Muslim countries—apparently including Europeans with dual nationality and at least some American permanent residents—from entry into the U.S. is simply not the same thing as Obama requiring people from those countries (among others) to undergo a face-to-face interview before getting an entry visa. No amount of repetition is ever going to make it so.
No wonder that 1984, Brave New World, and It Can’t Happen Here are soaring up the best-seller charts. We are living through dangerous times, and conservatives need to organize to defend the Constitution that we all love.
I am glad that Apple, as liberal as its leadership might be, is standing on the right side of this fight.
Trump going to town. Kinda refreshing for once a politician is actually doing exactly what he said during the elections. And the liberals and media are having coronaries as usual. Pretty damn hilarious.
Wow. If your standard is merely “doing exactly what he said during the elections,” you’re a scary dude.
One of the biggest things I heard from people who wanted to pretend they weren’t deliberately voting for a bigot was “he doesn’t really mean all the racist things he’s saying. It’s hyperbole.”
Meanwhile, you’re like “Yay! The genocidal maniac is sticking to his guns! Don’t back down, Hitler!”
You’ve lost it, idiot. Come back to reality, or go crawl back under your rock.
Those who recklessly go down the Godwin’s Law path have my utter contempt for their lazy, simple-minded & brain dead political analysis abilities. All lib roads lead to racism & Hitler for those simpletons & morons out there. Makes it easier for your limited comprehension abilities to understand. The equivalent of a shameless cliche catchphrase for idiots. Wow indeed.
You morons still have no idea, I mean no FREAKING idea what racism is. Pathetic.
Not only that Krioni, but the beauty of your statement exposes the true racism at the core of your ideology.
Tim, please put your energy and focus into the CEO thing. Your employees need you to lead and unify internal Apple concerns and not divert attn with the cultural/political wave of the day. Instead, please be more laser-like and focus on the credo that’s served Apple well for decades…make the best stuff. I trust that you, VPs, Board and other Directors, can work out the visa matter more directly and to the point behind closed doors.
If Pipeline Timmy REALLY cared, he’d organize & lead a gay rights parade in downtown Baghdad.
A better nickname for Cook is “Backdoor Timmy.”
Better yet in Mosel or Tehran.
“I trust that you, VPs, Board and other Directors, can work out the visa matter more directly and to the point behind closed doors”
This was an internal letter to employees – behind closed doors.
Krioni – you need to look up racist and see what it means. Not sure that you have contemplated that one thoroughly. it would be refreshing to have Progressives use their noggins for once. Based upon the definition of racist, Trump is NOT one. You may disagree with his views and his policies, but you aren’t winning any favors with a false narrative.
Don’t listen to the biased liberal liars in the mainstream media. Do not be swayed by George Soros-funded “protesters.” Both are a sham and not indicative of ideas and support of the majority of U.S. voters.
Most voters approve of President Trump’s temporary halt to refugees and visitors from several Middle Eastern and African countries until the government can do a better job of keeping out individuals who are terrorist threats.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a temporary ban on refugees from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen until the federal government approves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Just 33% are opposed, while 10% are undecided.
Similarly, 56% favor a temporary block on visas prohibiting residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from entering the United States until the government approves its ability to screen for likely terrorists. Thirty-two percent (32%) oppose this temporary ban, and 11% are undecided.
Source: Rasmussen Reports, Jan. 30, 2017
Hitler was a Socialist, a National Socialist, President Trump is not a fascist or a Socialist.
Remember these facts.
Hitler was not a socialist. He was a fascist. Sweden is an example of a socialist country. Nazi Germany was not.
Those are facts. Not “OMG the name is similar therefore…” facts, but actual facts. Please read some actual history books about the period. You will learn a lot.
Yes he was, take a gander at the facts: https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism
Hitler was both a Socialist and a fascist.
The truth cannot be change.
You’ve just linked to an article that says Nazism was a militaristic and conservative-leaning ideology based on totalitarianism.
Read it again. It explains National Socialism (Nazis) and Hitler’s role in the socialist movement in Germany.
Socialism is a totalitarian form of government that relies on militaristic force in order to expand and stay in power.
Hitler was a socialist and that is an actual historic fact.
What happen to the two countries who actually brought down the World Trade Center, if they aren’t the list it’s pointless.
The list came from Obama’s administration for one and two it’s for current countries with ISIS in them. What scares me are the kids. Yea, awww poor kids, but they are brainwashed early to hate America and if they get in our borders and 10-20 years from now it will be a bad thing if they are radicalized. No one is talking about this! Iraq and Syria are some of the top ones!
By “brainwashed,” do you mean that when U.S. bombs destroy their villages and kill their families, someone points out how fucked up that was?
I am also concerned about the kids who are being brainwashed early to hate Muslims (along with “colored folks” and “nasty women,” among others). 10-20 years from now it will be a bad thing if they deal with the rest of the world as they have been taught. No one is talking about this! (Well, obviously they are, just as folks are talking about the risks of radicalization.)
The list came from the places that are muslim and that Trumpery does not do business with. Period.
stump is beholden to them and the russians financially.
I am ambivalent about this particular policy. I admit that most of the Executive Order is presented in a fairly reasonable manner. Clearly, the President has a responsibility to protect the U.S., and implementing a 90-day stay for the new Administration to review existing policies and implement improvements is within the realm of reason.
However, I also have some concerns regarding the temporary stay on refugees, the 50,000 cap in 2017 on refugees, and the generally open-ended nature of the EO with regard to endpoints for resuming immigration and refugee movement from the identified countries.
Part of my concern lies in the rhetoric that Trump and his people employed during the campaign. If you consider what Trump has said in the past, then it is natural to view this EO with great skepticism and concern. As has been demonstrated throughout human history, great evil is often seeded with the best of intentions and the most reasonable of statements and policies associated with “protection” and “safety.”
I am giving Trump a chance to show his Presidential quality (which was sorely lacking in the election process). However, this EO must end promptly in a few months with clear and positive steps in refining our immigration and refugee policies.
trondude and kent – your partisan hyperbole just harms your stated objectives. You should chill out and be reasonable for a change. Your label and disparage campaign is pitiful and ineffective. One cannot accurately define “Democrats” or “liberals” in a sound bite any more than one can define “Republicans” or “conservatives.” You are oversimplifying and exaggerating for effect, but it undermines the foundation of a logical argument. It isn’t that simple and you are foolish to believe so.
Take a look the the LAX protests. How many of the 4K protestors do you believe are conservative? Zero. Zulch. Nada. And that is not a conspiracy theory. It is a bunch of LIBERALS. Do you think they are reasonable? Blocking traffic and causing many people to miss flights? Don’t be so blind man….
trondude, what percentage of the total democratic base do those protestors represent? Yet you label all democrats based upon that sample? Ridiculous.
Should I label all conservatives based on the Tea Party? Or Jerry Falwell’s religious right? Or the radical alt-right groups?
Don’t be so blind, man. The world is far more complex than you appear to believe. Oversimplification leads to error. Error leads to growing problems.
I laid out the issues quite reasonably. If you don’t like it, then “whatever.” I have dealt with you and Fwhatever and botty and kent for far too many years on this forum. I am not going to go extremist just because you want me to do so. I am a moderate and a rationalist. Emotional appeals and simplistic labeling and arguments will not work with me.
Love the headline, MDN – so subversive….
US has been downgraded to a Flawed Democracy. Enjoy it while you can idiots.
The flaw is the democrats and liberal scum. That is the only flaw, buddy.
The Constitution is a liberal document. Not that I would expect you to realize that.
Constitution is working just fine. Your not. Reboot yourself and wake the F up.
Liberals hate The Constitution because it was written by dead white male Christians and had the effect of creating the most successful and most prosperous and most free country from nothing in the history of the world. Mainly the Left hates freedom which the Constitution protects. The left loves government power as Barack Obama said as a law professor and as he showed while in office. Obama said as a law professor the Constitution puts too many negative limits on the power of the State to tell people how to live. Naturally the Left’s model nation is Cuba, where the inmates (the people) are treated to three hour speeches weekly from Fidel telling them how perfect their lives are. As the people ponder how to turn trash bags into boats to get to America and the founders liberty.
Could not have said it better. Bravo!
Liberals fight to support the Constitution and rule of law. That’s one of the main purposes of the ACLU (and they fight for conservative’s rights as much as anyone else’s). No, our model nation is not Cuba: it is The US as our founders intended it to be (minus the slavery). Why would a liberal hate freedom? We want freedom as much as you.
I have conservative friends with whom I disagree with on politics, but I would support them in a time of need, and I know that they would do the same.
Is it possible for less name-calling and civilized discussion?
What a crock of shite, kent! I do not know of anyone in this country, regardless of political affiliation, who “hates” the Constitution. You appear to be incorrigible.
You just indicated you are a moron. Liberals HATE the 2nd Amendment. They hate free speech by people they don’t like and have tried many things, like the Fairness Doctrine and others to stop Americans from saying things liberals don’t like. Liberals hate the limited Federal government role and the fact that states have the power to decide most things, like Education, with no Federal control. Liberals now hate the Electoral College and want it eliminated.
You are just stupid.
On the road to a one-party state, eh?
“We are one people, with one will, one resolve, one cause… Our enemies shall talk themselves to death and we will bury them with their own confusion.”
Hard to believe you’re an American. The right of dissent is inherent to the US Constitution and its 1st amendment. When you label others as “scum”, because their beliefs are different than yours, you degrade the very foundations upon which this country was built. Perhaps a constitutional law class might help educate you about the value and responsibility of citizenship and what it means to be an American citizen.
You and your fellow Sorosian thugs might note that the First Amendment guarantees “PEACEABLE assembly.”
OH, excuse me. Liberal GUTTER TRASH. That better?
If there is a serious terrorist attack in this country, Trump will say that he tried to work on our security, in the face of being harassed by a bunch of leftist freaks, while Tim will be silent. That is particularly ironic, since countries such as the seven on that list are the worst human rights abusers in the world.
If there is a serious terrorist attack, Trump will be the happiest person on the planet.
That makes a lot of sense, Heroin.
Yeah Heroin, that’s just a foolish comment. Trump’s a strange dude, but malevolent? C’mon.
He won’t wish it, but if it happens he and his team will make the most of it to crack down on civil liberties. It will only take some fake or twisted facts to appear on Fox News about the event and he’ll be implementing impulsive and ill-thought out policies within the hour.
I only hope the attack when it comes isn’t as serious as the one the last GOP administration allowed to happen through their arrogance and incompetence.
Funny how the two countries that brought down the World Trade Center towers aren’t on that list:
Saudi Arabia
Afghanistan
Pre: absolutely nutty. Logic would add Pakistan as well. All of the above have madrassas that educate the minions to execute (pun ok) what the ban is to safeguard. The list was a “left-over “from O’s admin, but that’s no excuse.
Saudi Arabia, by request of Our Beloved President, has agreed to pay for and house Syrian refugees.
nice try, dickhead.
Not correct (i.e. “alternative truth”). By request of “your beloved president”, Saudi Arabia has agreed to support the idea of safe zones in side Syria and Yemen, so that those refugees wouldn’t have to leave their countries. Nice try.
As for hosting (and paying for) Syrian refugees, Saudi Arabia has been housing over 100,000 displaced Syrians. Officially, they are not called refugees by the government; they are simply Arab brothers in need. The distinction without practical difference might mean something to the Saudis, but it obviously created a lot of noise elsewhere in the world, especially around the nationalists, who protested the flow of all those Syrians into the EU, while Arabs presumably accepted none.
You really need to verify your sources before posting.
“Yet, while Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt have taken in around 5 million refugees, and boatloads of the destitute are making their way to Europe, the Gulf states have taken only a few hundred refugees, according to data from the UN’s refugee agency (UNHCR).”
Oh, and the fact that Saudis are now “supporting safe havens” doesn’t change the other fact that Saudis had bred most of the terrorists responsible for the Twin Towers attack, and that country continues to support terrorist training (logistically and financially).
Too many oil and real estate interests by presidents of the US (current and prior) are entangled with the Saudis to put it on the list of terror supporters…
Trump said he wasn’t necessarily finished with the list…you remind me of the old Simon & Garfunkel lyric:
“A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”
That would at least explain why Trump was elected in the first place. People having any sense certainly doesn’t explain it.
Pre…yes again. I can see no rationale consistent with the exec order that wouldn’t include Saudi Arabia…none. Personally, I think they have a place in the ME–financial power, namely– that, if included in the EO, would shake the already wobbling Islamic foundations, to a very uncertain & undesirable end. Besides “membership” and “mindset,” they are likely the main purse for the terrorist nuttiness. As said before, I don’t understand Pakistan’s omission either.
I don’t see ANY specific countries stipulated in President Trump’s executive order. Where did the list of seven countries that everybody says are covered by the order come from?
Oh, that list of countries came from Obama.
You won’t hear that from the irreparably broken, leftist, biased mainstream media.
It came from the law passed by the republican senate and congress.
You won’t hear that from the irreparably broken, right-wing, biased Fox News and other right-wing media…
And signed by Obama. Bills don’t become law until signed by the President. Try to keep up with the basics, at least.
And had Obama vetoed that law, you would have been the first to rip him to shreds.
Hey MDN, where’s you oft mentioned Franklin quote now?
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Funny thing about fundamental truths, they are always true and applicable. That’s what makes them fundamental.
The seven countries covered in President Trump’s executive order were identified as “countries of concern” by Obama.
Where were you protesting Soros pawns then?
If Obama signed such an order I would. As I protest that the Patriot Act did not get abolished by him as well. But he at least didn’t originate it.
No “if.”
In December 2015, Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address “the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters.”
Again, where were you protesting Soros pawns then?
“Limited restrictions on certain travelers to had visited…” does not equal ripping families apart, handcuffing 5 year olds and banning people on the basis of where they were born (which is against the law, the 1965 immigration act).
So just how many were inconvenienced? Like 50. Wow. The world must now end. Stupid is as stupid does (you).
They handcuffed children. They defied court orders. They banned members of Congress from seeing the detainees.
How un-American does it have to get before you condemn it?
More hyperbole, please! It’s burying you and your kind. You’re burying yourselves, morons!
It’s a 90-day pause. You’ll live and, thanks to President Trump, so will more American citizens after our border security is tightened to prevent radical Islamic terrorists from killing innocent victims, unlike what we suffered in multiple acts of carnage under the feckless Obama.
This order won’t prevent terrorists who want to get in the the US.
What it WILL undoubtedly successfully do is spur rapid radicalization of many young Muslim Americans throughout the US. You know, the ones excluded form the ban, because they were born and raised in the US, but are now rapidly being made to feel hated by the US government and its new president.
The net result of this ban will be fresh new batch of home-made, American-born terrorists.
Where is Chuck Norris when you need him?
hidin’ from Donald Trump. 🙂
Now you are just repeating what the media wants you to repeat. You’re brainwashed, wake up and snap out of it and look at other news!
Country of concern is different than banning everyone from that country. The problem with the Trump order is that regardless of your character, ability or visa status, you are banned. (Read section 3c of his order). Such a ban based purely on nationality is against the 1965 law. That is why many courts in the country has put a stay on his order.
Republicans were the ones who passed that law in 2015. It wasn’t Obama’s executive order.
It was passed into law by Obama. Bills don’t become law until signed by the President. Try to keep up with the basics, at least.
Again; it wasn’t Obama’s executive order. It was a law passed by the two houses of parliament. Had Obama vetoed it, you would have been the first to express outrage.
Whatever is done with the Visa program, Tim Cook and the rest of the Silicon Valley crowd can cry me a river. They sure had no issues whatsoever with outsourcing millions of jobs for cheap labor in India, China and elsewhere over the past 15-20 years to save some bucks.
Now the chickens are coming home to roost and these hypocrites are only worried about their own bottom line. They don’t care one bit about combating terrorism, protecting citizens or doing what’s right by American workers. It’s all about their profit margins, so Tim Cook can spare us the righteous indignation.
So now it’s ok to have government fix capitalism? Some want it both ways…
No, it’s okay to have government enforce existing immigration laws and strengthen border security in order to protect the citizens who government officials are sworn to serve.
Stopping H1-B visa abuse by the likes of Tim Cook isn’t “fixing capitalism.” It’s fixing a visa program that’s been abused by Tim Cook and his ilk for years to the severe detriment of American workers and their families.
No that’s not what Tim Cook Said. Your HEADLINE IS WRONG!! He does not support the ban on muslim immigration. He said nothing about not supporting protecting our nation against terrorists.
Tim Cook: “It is not a policy we support.”
What is that policy’s name? “Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States.”
Hence, the headline is 100% correct.
Wrong. The executive order does not ban Muslim inmigration. It does affect immigration from 7 named nations, but doesn’t affect immigration from more than 40 other nations, where the vast majority of Muslims live.
Those 7 nations were previously named by the Obama administration, because of concerns about difficulty of confirming information about individuals seeking to migrate to the U.S.
It’s ironic that people are using this site to praise Trump’s executive order when Apple itself was founded by the son of an Iranian immigrant.
Not true. Steve Jobs’s father was actually Syrian. That makes it even more ironic…
My mistake, thanks for the correction. I knew he was of Syrian origin but accidentally typed the wrong country in my posting.
Alan, there’s nothing but emotionalism and silly logic in your statement. You imply: a ban on any country in the world would be “ironic” b/c it would affect 100% of the country of immigrants…to no disrespect to the Native-Americans. It’s the majority wins mindset that’s “jello-izing” the American mind. Ra-Ra My Team…go
Syran immigrant. Who wouldn’t be allowed in Trump’s America.
For 90-days and, then, Abdulfattah Jandali would have passed improved vetting (since he was obviously not a radical islamist terrorist) and come into the country to premaritally knock up Jobs’ biological mother Joanne Schieble and put Steve up for adoption and we’d all still have Apple and our electronic goodies.
As they were in no position to bring a baby into this world, Abdulfattah Jandali’s and Joanne Schiebl’s baby should have been ABORTED!!!
Right, because people are normally perfectly able to put their entire life on pause for 90 days, especially when they don’t know if the original plan will ever pan out.
Abdulfattah Jandali would never even bother with Trump’s America. After this travel ban, many other developed countries will benefit from the talented migrants that originally sought better life in America, but had the wrong passport.
Exactly how many terrorists have been caught so far by this ban? Zero. And how many more will be caught? Another big fat zero.
America doesn’t need to import its terrorists. It is perfectly capable of growing their own: from McVeigh (Oklahoma), to Syed Rizwan Farook (San Bernardino), Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga), Dylann Storm Roof (Charleston, SC), Nidal Malik Hasan (Ft. Hood, TX), plus several smaller-scale anti-government terrorists, all home-grown. The two Boston Marathon bombers were born in Russia (Chechnya), but came to the US as little kids and were raised in the US.
There is no doubt in my mind that some potential terrorists may be dissuaded from traveling to the US after this ban, but the total net effect on terrorism in the US will be at best negligible, and quite likely a major recruiting point for radical islamists. Nothing radicalizes misguided youth than messages that people like you are banned just because of your religion. While the order itself is clear that it is NOT about the religion (it only talks about countries), that will be impossible to explain to most Americans, who see it clearly as the fulfillment of the campaign promise of the Muslim ban.
In other words, rather than protecting America and reducing the flow of terrorists, this ban will very likely fast-track radicalization of many young Muslim Americans who would have otherwise grown up to become ordinary law-abiding citizens.
At last – a sensible post. Wonder how trump will ‘go after’ home grown terrorists. Bye-bye civil liberties!
Tim Needs to stay out of politics and repair Apple.
Mac pro not updated in years.
iPhone 6 battery problems.
No current tech wireless routers.
No Apple monitors.
Outdated iMacs, Mac Minis, and macbook airs.
If Cook wants to be a politician, leave Apple and run for office. Otherwise STFU and deliver products that are worth buying.
Agreed, and Hollywood also needs to just shut the fuck up too…Sick of their blabbering liberal corksuckers.
That is quite a persecution complex that you have, trondude. You should carefully read and consider my post above. A bit of introspection might lead you to the realization that you are floating down conspiracy creek towards the bay of insanity.
Dude, seriously…tune into any Hollywood ceremony. The first thing out of anybody’s mouth is political diatribe. Why can’t they just focus on their work(films and acting) and leave the politics out of it? I’ll tell you why, because Hollywood hates Trump and republicans, and will always take the opportunity to slam them every which way they can. They cannot resist or help themselves. You are blind man.
There is nothing unusual, new or even fundamentally wrong with that. Most of intelligent people tend to have a political opinion one way or the other. Americans’ political position has been growing increasingly polarised over the recent decades, and everyone with an opinion has becoming more and more passionate about their own side. And those who are in the public eye tend to take advantage of that exposure and make it a point to advocate for their side. This is in no way exclusive to Hollywood; others do the same thing. All those mega-church leaders, with following perhaps as large as the Hollywood’s audience, tend to very vocally profess their political support for candidates (or office holders) of their perfered political party , as well as against those of the opposite party. It is often profoundly annoying for someone who is simply spiritually religious to try to attend a religious service, only to have to listen to political diatribe against some candidate (or office holder), or promoting someone else’s political campaign.
Your opinion means nothing.
You are a waste of my time.
Enjoy your manipulated high star ratings that mean the world to you. And I will enjoy my manipulated low star ratings that mean absolutely NOTHING to me.
I know you don’t believe that, but frankly my dear — I don’t give a damn!
Adios … 🐎🔫🌵😎
I think you may be paranoid. To actually believe that there are people here who dedicate the time to visit MDN from multiple browsers (or hire clickfarms to do this for them) and click on various comments, just to they could feel better about themselves among a few dozen other people who tend to post regularly on MDN, that’s tin-foil, conspiracy-theory loony.
In other words, while it is true, as I said, the comment ratings have very little value, what is also true is that they are organic. Other than Botvinnik always immediately rating his own comments with five stars, I haven’t seen any evidence to indicate that there is a conspiracy to rate specific type of comments higher than others. Let us not forget the perspective here: this is a small, one-man-show tech blog with a few dozen regular readers who post comments. It is not a national election.
It seems to me that you are quite hung up on those star ratings and it hurts you very much that you can’t get them to go higher. Since I had apparently been blessed with consistently higher ratings, I will offer advice: lose the vulgar, insulting, offensive tone and stars will come. If you argue intelligently, and present your case articulately, I’ll be the first to give you five stars. Not in a single post here had I ever said anything insulting or offensive to you personally, or anyone else on this forum.
Good luck!
Preachy, tedious, blah, blah, blah 🐂💩!!! You are one SICK KEYBOARD ELITIST TROLL.
How is this for upping my approval ratings? STFU! 😜
Come on now, get with the program people — pretty please — down votes in 3… 2… 1… 🚀
Thank you, thank you very much … 😴
I rest my case.
Hey look, a 1st Amendment supporter!
Right on Chris!!! Tim needs to try to help Apple do better!! I’m done with that stupid coffee place in Seattle because of their jerk CEO ranting about politics. I’m fed up with these filthy rich jerks acting like they know so much about everything!
Trump is a filthy rich Jerk who acts like he knows so much about stuff. Or were you trying to make that point?
yeah, but Trump is the President of the United States, the most powerful office on the face of the earth…
Starbuck’s is a coffee shop chain.
Not only did the CEO of Apple but Google, Oracle, FaceBook, and many other companies are against this idiot ban. Basically the world is against it. Obama did not do this because it is not the right way to go about removing terrorist and it is not right for America. The origin of terrorist maybe from some of these countries but not all the people from these countries are terrorists.
Obama allowed all the terrorist sleeper cells to proliferate here already. Soon, something will happen. Trump is just fixing it now, so all you whining little panties grabbers need to deal with it. Blocking access to airports and such, just show how stupid democrats and liberals are. Wake up, it won’t change anything except showing how ass-holish and intolerant they really are. Every time they protest, they lose.
Trump is just making it worse. This Muslim ban won’t catch any terrorists coming in, nor it will prevent those hell-bent on coming. What it WILL do is spur radicalization of American-born Muslims, who now have one more (and big) reason to hate other Americans (and their new president).
try this:
http://pussyhat.com
For crying out loud Tim!
As John Sununu pointed out on cable news this morning — Obama passed similar restrictions on countries like Iran, etc., not once, but twice during his presidency!
I don’t recall a corporate activist letter from you to your snowflake peeps, either time.
You have crossed over into partisan politics and choosing sides. Steve would fire you for these continued partisan actions that chooses sides, winners and losers. That is not inclusive.
I would rather you concern yourself with getting the bugs out of the code, yearly updates to the Mac line and an upgradeable Mac Pro that bests every other desktop computer ever made, once and for all.
Activist hypocrisy politics is not good … 😡
John Sununu dis not tell the entire story. Obama did not have a blanket ban on all citizens of a particular country, only on those with war crimes, those on UN travel ban list, those with human-right violations. Such measures are necessary as America should not allow war criminals. Trump’s blanket ban (read section 3c of his order) is on the all citizens of a particular country regardless of their ability, character or visa status (except diplomats, those with NATO visa, or those having business with the UN). Such as blanket ban based on nationality is unconstitutional according to a 1965 law, that is why many courts in the country granted a stay on the executive order.
And let us not forget, that wasn’t Obama’s executive order; it was a law, passed by the US government (congress / senate). Obama did sign it into law, but when the president signs an executive order without bothering to ask the congress or senate is not the same as when those two bodies make the law of the land and ask the president to sign it.
You’re right: Obama did sign it into law. Period. Full Stop.
That is EXACTLY what I said. He did NOT sign an executive order. It was a LAW of the land, passed by both houses of your parliament.
Again, had Obama vetoed this law, you would have been at his throat for that veto.
Great news for Syrian refugees, your odds for being relocated to a nation of the free and civilized world have just went up substantially.
It’s hard to believe but it’s true, your travel plans will be changing, pretty well ensuring that you will be going to a peace loving nation of the free and civilized world now, one that respects the sovereignty of others.
But wait there’s more, this tentative offer is also being made available to those from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Yemen. It’s an unbelievable deal an incredible deal, especially for those from Iraq. Frankly, do you really want to be relocated to the so called country that actually disregarded the sovereignty of your nation so that it could look for an IWMDP (Imaginary Weapons of Mass Destruction Program), brutally tortured your fellow citizens in the process, probably murdered members of your family, and caused you to be a refugee in the first place?
We didn’t think so!!!
Yes it’s true, you too might be relocated to the truly great nations of the world, but you won’t hear them saying that, they are way too humble to go out and boast about it.
With love and determination, hopefully one day you’ll experience the joys and benefits of belonging to the free and civilized world, yes the one with real working moral compasses and humanitarian ethics!
It’s a declaration of peace. You bet the free and civilized world will be coming together to do even more than it can to save your lives.
For those of you from the free and civilized world, please do what you can to help these people, show them that there is room at your inn.
It’s the humane thing to do.
I am a 16 year stockholder and a 25 year customer. I have always held Apple and it’s management team in the highest regard because it had a unique focus on making great products and pleasing customers all across the world.
It is time for Tim Cook to be fired. He thinks his job is to advance political ideas and pays little attention to product leadership or customer satisfaction. He is an incredibly annoying CEO who should run for office or start an LGBTQ advocacy group. Then his behavior would makes sense.
From Reuters:
“House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California, evoked an image of the Statue of Liberty weeping. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York teared up himself on camera as he seethed over the “mean-spirited and un-American” immigration ban.”
Overblown theatrical hypocrisy politics. When Obama did the same, I guess it was just swell. 🤔
In Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 40-year-old teacher Trista Carles said she had been ordered to keep her views about Trump out of the classroom.
“We were told to be Switzerland,” she said. “We’re not allowed to take any sides or views.”
Now, if we could just get Cook to be like Switzerland and get back to fixing Apple!
The unfairness of political HYPOCRISY does not bring us together. Not now, not ever. 🇺🇸
Global condemnation of a new US travel ban on immigration from seven countries is growing, as President Donald Trump faces fresh protests at home.
The European Union said it would never choose isolation and inequality over openness and social equality.
The parliament in Iraq, one of the seven nations, passed a motion calling for reciprocal action to be taken.
Amid widespread confusion, the White House has defended the restrictions as necessary safety measures.
BBC
I wonder how US businesses, embassy employees and military personnel are going to continue to conduct business in Iraq? We are starting to go down the rabbit hole on some of this.
We just spent the last 14 years wasting American blood and trillions in treasure destroying and then defending Iraq, and now both countries are getting ready to stop citizens from the other’s country from entering.
If he were alive, Rod Serling could use all of this as the basis of a new script for an episode of Twilight Zone.
Whether I agree with Mr. Cook’s positions or not, here’s what strikes me:
Tim is very prompt with his public statements on matters such as this. Things not pertaining directly to Apple products. Something happens, BAM, here comes Cook with his prepared remarks.
Meanwhile the Mac Pro is now Jurassic in computer-age, the iPhones contain more and more bugs, software often DOESN’T “just work” like it used to, product launches are not smooth, whether it’s supply chain issues, bugs causing poor battery life or whatever, there’s always an issue. Can’t stay in product areas that help bring and keep people in the Apple ecosystem (monitors, routers, hello!?!?!?). My own journey to the ‘Apple side’ happened because of a couple such products. I got an iPod 3rd gen, loved it. A year or two later, after trying several different router brands and getting tired of constantly having to reset them to reconnect to the internet I tried an Airport Extreme. 2006 maybe? It’s still going strong and to this day it has not dropped my connection one time.
Now I’m Apple all the way. And don’t get me wrong, I love my iPhone, iPad and iMac. What I don’t love are the many areas of lackadaisical management and I see no signs of that changing.
“Tim is very prompt with his public statements on matters such as this.”
Nice try, but no cigar. This was a internal letter to employees – not a public statement.
Obama was an infidel. VP Pence and Cook are good men.
It’s about time that an American administration finally respects the Constitutinally protected freedom of religion so that my Moslem friends can finally begin to see the Koran and prayer rugs in our civil and criminal courts, at city halls, and also in schools on an equal basis with the Bible.
“Praise be to Allah.”
There’s a difference between appearing unpredictable and acting like an imbecile.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Alan_Kurdi
Tim Cooke is an activist , he’s running apple into the ground. Just build computers and don’t use the company as your megaphone. You’re failing at your job Tim.
Everybody keeps treating the Tim Cook memo like it was a liberal grandstanding press release attacking the Trump Administration. It was, in fact, an internal memo to Apple employees. It may have escaped your notice, but Apple is a multinational company with a multinational workforce that is based and travels worldwide. Apple has hundreds (at least hundreds) of employees who are arguably “from” one of the six countries (see footnote). Those employees and their coworkers deserved assurance that the company has their backs.
Would you prefer that Cook send out a memo telling his employees that the company was going to abandon them out of political expediency?
FOOTNOTE: The order applies to anybody “from” one of the six countries, but doesn’t define what “from” means. It has been interpreted broadly at most points of entry to include anybody born in one of the countries, even if they have spent their entire adult life in the country where they now live, work, vote, and hold a passport. There are millions and millions of people whose families have fled those countries over the years. They all fall into the excluded category.
Even beyond that, you don’t have to ever have set foot in one of the countries to be considered “from” there. For example, I suspect that Apple has a lot of employees who are “from” Iran because their families fled the country after the Revolution 37 years ago, or from Iraq because their families fled Saddam Hussain. Many countries (Saudi Arabia and the UAE among them) do not recognize “birthright citizenship.” The children of expatriates living in those countries acquire their parents’ nationality, but never achieve local citizenship. They will retain that essentially fictitious nationality their entire lives, even if they subsequently move and become citizens of a Western country.
The possibility isn’t just theoretical. A resident physician at the Cleveland Clinic was put on a plane back to her family in Riyadh ten minutes ahead of the court order Saturday night because she was considered “Sudanese” on that theory. She was given the choice of “voluntarily” surrendering her visa and being shipped back or being shipped back anyway under a deportation order that would have barred her from reentry for five years. Other people, including lawful permanent residents of the United States within months of citizenship, were offered the same coercive choice.
They could easily have been Apple employees. Should their company just abandon them?
Where was the same letter from Cook when Obama announced similar restrictions more than once, hmmm?
In a word: Hypocrisy.
Egypt and Saudi Arabia aren’t on the list, pointless without them.
Darwinism at work. Let Americans continue to kill other Americans in isolation, behind a big wall. The rest of the world will look-on and take note how much safer and tolerant the planet has becomes.
Did you guys really vote for this?!!! Maybe you should read some European history. (That’s that cute little collection of countries somewhere over near London, England.)
BTW, were Native American Indians on the deportation list? I understand that Uncle Sam missed a few way back a couple of hundred years ago.
“I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment”.
Chief Strategist, Steve Bannon
What do you think will be the result of that?
How can you possibly think it will be better for you?
After 4 years of a Trump presidency, it will be clear to everyone how great America was…..
Is this a mac news site or becoming an alt-right website. Start showing some interesting mac news here instead of the politics you are publishing recently.
Tim Cook’s emails to staff qualify as Apple news, genius.
It does seem as if it’s becoming an alt-right website. I have been losing my interest in the site because of it. It used to have good discussions about Apple/Mac stuff. Now it seems to be largely used by people who want to proselytize their right winged, hateful politics.
mfc: yeah, there’s no one on the left doing the same…or you’re not noticing because those views are normal/agreeable to you. Go-my-team!
I speak for myself. I don’t normally follow herds.
That totally balanced reports containing just the facts of events and verbatim statements seem to you to be “alt-right” only highlights how broken and leftist the mainstream media has become.
that’s because Apple’s CEO has become a CNTRL-L advocate while gutting the greatest company in the history of capitalism.
I have to preface this by saying that I am not a neophyte when it comes to what is now called the “alt-right.” I served a succession of Republican elected officials as a prosecutor for 30 years in what was once considered the toughest “law and order” jurisdiction in Texas, so I am not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination.
Exactly because I honor the U.S. Constitution and swore to support it, I prosecuted enough cases involving “alt-right” groups to make myself an acknowledged expert on the subject. I was a speaker at statewide meetings of both the prosecutors’ and sheriffs’ associations. There was a period when my family, home, and I were under enhanced police protection after a tangle with Alex Jones (InfoWars) and some of his supporters. I recognize that this posting may place us in danger again, but I still love the Constitution.
It is not spin but a simple fact that the Breitbart News Network ranks right up there with InfoWars as a voice of the “alt-right movement” of extremists and conspiracy theorists. No objective reader could possibly think that Breitbart is not dedicated to promoting, by any means necessary, the power of white male Christian Americans against anybody who fails to fall into all of those categories. Because I am a strict advocate of the Constitution, I find that position to be inconsistent with American principles.
Breitbart developed its “alt-right” character under Steve Bannon, who proudly proclaimed—and still proclaims—his role within the movement and the role of the movement in social disruption. That is not “broken leftist” propaganda, but his own boast. There is no more evidence that Bannon has changed his views since leaving Breitbart than there is that President Trump has significantly pivoted since he was calling for the exclusion of Muslim immigrants and the removal of Mexican-American judges during his campaign.
Statements from the White House that were obviously drafted by Bannon don’t just seem to be “alt-right.” They ARE alt-right, because he is Alt-Right, and his movement has captured a major role within the United States Government. It did so by conducting an astonishing assault on the very concept of truth as something more than just one of a variety of alternative viewpoints. As I keep saying, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. Lies do not become truth simply through repetition, even if the liar has been elected President of the United States.
Trump banning millions of people born in seven largely Muslim countries—apparently including Europeans with dual nationality and at least some American permanent residents—from entry into the U.S. is simply not the same thing as Obama requiring people from those countries (among others) to undergo a face-to-face interview before getting an entry visa. No amount of repetition is ever going to make it so.
No wonder that 1984, Brave New World, and It Can’t Happen Here are soaring up the best-seller charts. We are living through dangerous times, and conservatives need to organize to defend the Constitution that we all love.
I am glad that Apple, as liberal as its leadership might be, is standing on the right side of this fight.