“Amid pressure to build products at home, Apple is seeking to conduct ‘high-tech manufacturing’ at one of its American plants, according to a federal government filing,” Anita Balakrishnan reports for CNBC.
“Apple has requested to make finished products in its facility in Mesa, Arizona, according to the document,” Balakrishnan reports. “Right now, it has permissions to make consumer electronics components there, the filing said.”
“Apple has reportedly been looking to expand its cloud services to compete with rivals like Amazon and Google, The Information reported last year,” Balakrishnan reports. “Meanwhile, president-elect Donald Trump has said as president he would ‘create the incentives‘ to get Apple to ‘build a big plant in the United States.'”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: MAIGA atop the Boule Graveyard.
SEE ALSO:
President-elect Trump tells Apple CEO Tim Cook that he’d like to see Apple make products in the U.S. – November 23, 2016
Apple did not ask for incentives for new $2 billion data center in Mesa, Arizona – February 2, 2015
Apple to invest $2 billion to convert GT Advanced’s failed sapphire plant into data command center – February 2, 2015
Apple, GT Advanced and the ‘boule graveyard’ – November 20, 2014
Apple will save jobs in Arizona by repurposing sapphire factory – November 19, 2014
Apple sticking with Arizona plan after sapphire supplier GT Advanced falters – November 18, 2014
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Apple could be moving their iCloud servers in-house – April 12, 2016
Report: Apple designing its own servers to avoid snooping – March 24, 2016
Apple’s move to bring iCloud infrastructure in-house predicated by backdoor fears – March 23, 2016
Inside ‘Project McQueen,’ Apple’s plan to build its own cloud – March 18, 2016
Apple’s deal with Google for cloud services may not last – March 17, 2016
Apple signs on with Google Cloud Platform, cuts spending with Amazon Web Services – March 17, 2016
“Those jobs are never coming back.” – Steve Jobs
Ol’ Steve-o might be as wrong about that statement as he was about appointing Pipeline Timmy as CEO.
“Elections have consequences.” – Barack Obama
Before counting the jobs that are “coming back,”, let’s wait and see how much of this manufacturing is automated.
These are jobs that were never going overseas anyway, and they are not actually new jobs. Apple has been doing the data cabinet assembly at the existing data centers. Now they are just centralizing that work in Arizona. I assume that whoever was doing the assembly already is either being relocated, fired, or moved to other positions.
However, Jobs also said at the time that nearly a quarter of a million workers were required to build the iPhone at the time. That really wasn’t the issue. It was the ~7,000 engineers that is necessary just to manage that single production. ‘We don’t have 7,000 engineers.’
Bogus.
The United States is second only to the Russian Federation in engineering degree graduates…followed by Iran, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Ukraine, Mexico, France and Vietnam.
http://interestingengineering.com/top-10-countries-with-the-most-engineering-graduates/
Perhaps, but a large portion of STEM graduates in the US return to their home country (or other ones more friendly towards immigration issues) after completing schooling.
you’re one of those “yes, we can’t” dead weights.
Perhaps you should have read the entire posting, in particular were it states, “Where is China and India you ask? Surely the two most populated countries in the world have to be there somewhere. Well it seems like nothing has been said about them because no data was available from these two countries.”
Well, apparently ‘One if five of the world’s college students are in China’*
…Last year,…the number was 37 million, vs 20 million in the US.”
The point that Jobs was making, that was just to produce 250,000 iPhones required 7,000 supervisors. And the population of the US is just not large enough to make everything.
The following is an example of the problem getting worse:
FORTUNE† — “Applied Materials had to fly in 100 interviewers just to screen all the job applicants for its new Solar Technology Center in Xi’an, China, last year. The company wanted to fill 260 high-tech jobs. It got 26,000 resumes.
Those Chinese solar researchers are the cream of an engineering crop that included an estimated 10,000 Ph.D. graduates last year. This spring the U.S. will graduate about 8,000 Ph.D. engineers, an estimated two-thirds of whom are not U.S. citizens. About 150,000 students who majored in engineering, computer science, information technology, and math will collect bachelor’s degrees. The Chinese government claims that in recent years the number in China has been well north of 500,000 and rising fast…
The fastest-growing college majors in America as of 2007… were parks, recreation, leisure, and fitness studies, as well as security and protective services. That’s not a great omen for technology breakthroughs. If the next great technological advances in energy, the environment, medicine, and information are made elsewhere, American workers will have a much tougher time earning good pay in those key industries.”
* https://www.studyinternational.com/news/one-in-five-of-the-worlds-college-students-are-in-china/
† http://archive.fortune.com/2010/07/29/news/international/china_engineering_grads.fortune/index.htm
you are wrong…American engineers invented the iPhone, they can also sure as hell make them.
Amazing. The only thing good about your retort is the 5 Stars only you could have given yourself.
Incidentally, American engineers DID NOT invent the iPhone.
Yes, they sure as hell can make them. But not millions at a time at the price you would be willing to pay for.
look, you idiot, Americans invented mass production…dunno about you, but on my iPhone package it says “Designed by Apple in California.” Although currently, it’s debatable if California is in the United States.
“Incidentally, American engineers DID NOT invent the iPhone.”
Hell, virtually all of Apple’s R&D is located in Cupertino,
American ENGINEERS did not invent the iPhone.
The iPhone was developed and designed by Apple engineers and designers along with input and direction from Steve Jobs, Jony Ive, and other executives. The iPhone was a team effort involving many people. No one individual can take credit.
By the way, there is a difference between ‘design’ and ‘invent’
jeez, no one said “one individual can take credit” bonehead. I said it was created, engineered and designed by Americans in Cupertino, California USA.
PS: Though he and his wife retain British passports, Ive is an American citizen.
“jeez, no one said “one individual can take credit” bonehead. I said it was created, engineered and designed by Americans in Cupertino, California USA.
No you didn’t! That is until just now.
cut and paste where I said “one individual can take credit” for the invention of the iPhone. Otherwise, shut the fück up.
you’re just not very bright.
invent |inˈvent|
verb [ with obj. ]
create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of: he invented an improved form of the steam engine.
Sorry, but historically incorrect: the Industrial Revolution began in Great Britain and most of the important technological innovations were British. Not the USA.
For example, interchangeable parts – 1803 at the Portsmouth Block Mills at Portsmouth Dockyard, for the British Royal Navy during the Napoleonic War.
I assume that you’re alluding to Henry Ford’s Model T assembly line of 1913, or perhaps Springfield Armory (1850), but these were both clearly predated by the Bridgewater Foundry in UK (1839), John Lombe’s water-powered silk mill at Derby, UK (1721), and even the Venetian Arsenal (1104).
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“I assume that you’re alluding to Henry Ford’s Model T assembly line of 1913…”
no, I was referring to Ransom Olds.
Ransom Olds wasn’t even born until 1864.
And while Olds is recognized as a founder of the American automobile industry, your “America was first!” claim by definition necessitates a World View beyond merely America.
And as I’ve already clearly illustrate, the Industrial Revolution started outside of the USA – – Olds (and Ford) were more than 50 year behind the inventors.
TL;DR = no, you’re still wrong:
His assembly line wasn’t until 1901 … which is at least 50 years later than all of the dates I’d listed.
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so why do you think the United States flourished while the sun set on the British Empire?
Trying to now change the subject, we see.
I am not questioning British ingenuity in the past, mister.
You said: “look, you idiot, Americans invented mass production…”
Referring to who invented something **IS** referring to past events (aka “history”).
You can’t weasel out of the fact that you were wrong. So suck it up, “Snowflake”.
bite me, ya rat bastard limey.
> bite me, ya rat bastard limey.
*Sigh*
botvinnik tries to dish it out, but he shows that he can’t take it.
Yet another stupid-as-a-brick New Yorker Yankees fan wannabe, who would not survive a week in Hell’s Kitchen.
(BTW, the Winter Village at Bryant Park was pretty decent this past year).
even British computers leak oil.
Oh, look: more botvinnik whining because he still can’t admit that his blowhard “‘Merica!” claim was false.
Unfortunately, this sort of behavior has become so common here in the USA, that he can’t even be considered a National Embarrassment.
Here’s hoping that a US plant manufacturing desktop Macs (Pro & Mini) are in the famous pipeline.
Apple’s application to make servers for their server farms at that plant has ZERO to do with Trump. Like many of the claims he is and will make. Just because B folows A does not mean that A caused B. Period.
Another naysayer
Or someone with math skills? We will never know…
On the contrary, genius, Apple’s application to make servers for their server farms at that plant has EVERYTHING to do with Trump.
Apple and other companies would not be looking for every way possible to preserve/create jobs in the U.S. without the triumphant election of Donald Trump to the presidency coupled with the voters granting the GOP control of the Senate and the House (not to mention setting the table to make the Supreme Court conservative for decades to come).
So is it full servers at Meza or high end cabinets ?
Goose stepping all the way, aren’t you?
Trumpanzee.
To try to claim that a project which existed before someone was even a viable political candidate … let alone actually elected … is utterly devoid of objectively true content.
And time will tell just how automated this server plant is, to determine if it was really done for ‘jobs’, or to reduce the risk of the end product having hack vulnerabilities covertly inserted.
Given the already-known timeline, I’d bet the Ranch on the latter. Care to make an irrevocable $500 charity bet IRL?
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The article i read says they are planing to make server “cabinets ” at this facility…. not servers or devices.
Somebody with a brain has to go and ruin the tribal posturing by actually reading the article and understanding what was said.
If you look at the linked document, the request’s headline only refers to server cabinets while the list of materials involved ( things like fans, metal hardware, components and PCB boards ) amounts to a detailed list of what you need to build server cabinets.
In these days of state sponsored cyber-compromises both at home and abroad, there are obvious reasons for Apple to build something as crucial as the fundamental infrastructure of a server farm completely in-house, where every aspect remains under Apple’s control.
Here is one of many articles published during March 2016 which explains that Apple was alarmed about possible FBI and Chinese tinkering with server hardware and software. The code name for the operation was “Project McQueen”-
https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/23/apple-cloud-infrastructure-servers-snooping/
From that article… “The Information reports that Project McQueen is actually just one of at least six internal efforts at Apple including building its own servers, networking equipment, and ‘systems that could one day help developers to power their apps.'”
So is it full servers at Meza or high end cabinets?
President-elect Donald Trump accomplishes more every eight days than the Obama failure did in eight years.
Give it a rest… he hasn’t done anything yet except potentially break hundreds of years of Constitutional Law by not revealing his taxes/assets and bringing family members into the cabinet.
But he’s fabulous at Tweeting! Gotta respect that!… or NOT!
You lie. Or you don’t know what you’re talking about, like a good little liberal.
After stealing the 1960 presidential election, President-elect John F. Kennedy appointed his younger brother Attorney General.
There’s is no law requiring presidential candidates to release their tax returns. It’s not legally required.
As far as JFK appointing RFK, that’s why the nepotism law was passed.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/1976-nepotism-law-lyndon-johnson-bobby-kennedy-trump-kushner-214465
Sort of correct:
After Kennedy appointed his brother congress passed a law making it illegal for the President to appoint family to run Federal agencies.
But, if Trump’s son-in-law isn’t running an agency then that is likely legal. Presidents can take advice from anyone they want. And my understanding is he is not taking a salary.
Correct:
There is no law requiring tax returns to be released.
But clearly he was hiding issues he thought would not help his campaign such as a more factual record of his real wealth (probably not what he says like most things), and politically unpalatable partners (partnerships with Russians, etc.)
My statements are 100% correct, in fact. Not “sort of.”
in 1967, during Lyndon Johnson presidency:
“(b) A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110
I think you mean he broke protocol, not law. Better brush up on your education.
Yes, more of this. Whatever the Democrats are paying you to make Republican’s look bad, you should be charging more.
/s
True. Trump manages to tweet more crap in 4.3 minutes than the preceding 43 presidents to date.
Better than creating more debt than the preceding 43 presidents to date — as Obama did.
Squawk, squawk.. another parrot.
It’s a real selling point for me. Made in USA is a good thing, I don’t care who makes it possible.
The sooner apple gets out of China the better. If Apple doesn’t leave on its own China will eventually kick them out. iCal it.
I agree. There will be a time when China demands total censure and Apple and others will have a stark choice to make.
Google agreed to China’s censorship and still got ousted.
Guantanamo on the Bay Resort still open?
That nation still at war?
GW Bush still not brought to trial to answer for acts against humanity?
I sure hope Apple can put the great back in but when it comes to insane, it’s mission accomplished.
Comrade Trump has nothing to do with this, but that never stopped him from taking credit for something to which he had no part. Look no further than the Supreme Leader’s Charity work.
If Apple is to manufacture in the USA, they will need Foxconn to open up an American facility. I would recommend that Apple does not manufacture in the USA until post-silicon. Once chips go to graphene, take the whole process in house and ditch Foxconn. Do not invest in obsolete silicon assembly lines built for phones with 100s of parts – this is how China gets left holding the bag.
Apple should made their products in different locations across the world right now they don’t. They tried once but a American company run by Trumpets screwed them.
Right on que, anytime something political appears on MDN, Botty and Firsty pounce for the chance to barf out right wing propaganda (aka lies). Some things never change.
“cue.”