“Apple told me today that they will no longer be developing its professional photography application, Aperture,” Jim Dalrymple reports for The Loop.
“‘With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture,’” said Apple in a statement provided to The Loop,” Dalrymple reports. “‘When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS.'”
Dalrymple reports, “Apple was very clear when I spoke with them this morning that development on other pro apps like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro is continuing. Professionals in those app categories should not worry about their apps — they will continue as normal.”
RFull article here.
MacDailyNews Note: The lastest version, Aperture 3.5.1, was released November 14, 2013.
R.I.P., Aperture.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “wirehead” for the heads up.]
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This blows. As a long time Aperture user, supporter, and AAPL shareholder, I am very disappointed. For the first time, I feel betrayed by Apple.
you can still use Aperture for as long as you want…
Welcome to the club. I can use the old Pages and iWeb as long as I want, too. I suppose Steve Wozniak can use his Apple II. That doesn’t change the reality that the new Apple has chosen to go elsewhere.
i finally blew off iWeb when i discovered wix.com
Fine. They can go there without me.
As a pro this for me was the last straw.
I now have *no* reason to keep paying extra for overpriced Apple gear.
Lightroom runs better on PC. In fact, a Surface tablet with 30″ monitor in the office suddenly sounds real good.
Let us know how that Surface tablet works out for you.
Some people, can, sure. But professionals who replace their camera bodies rely on the software manufacturer keeping an update process going for new RAW file formats. Given Apple’s stated commitment to Aperture, I’m certainly not willing to risk my livelihood on Apple releasing an update for Aperture to work with the Nikon D5 when it ships in the next year or so.
Aperture uses Apple’s system wide RAW rendering. (the same one that iPhoto uses) Apple will keep updating that.
They just came out with the D4s, Nikon’s D5 won’t likely ship for two years.
BTW – LOVE my D4.
That is a silly actually stupid comment. We are professionals that want to rely on Apple for our business. Everyone knows that with new operating systems, Apature will not continue to work.
APPLE sucks… what could POSSIBLY Be the logic behind this,
Just like FINAL CUT PRO EX VISTA..
Who the hell is making this decision? As an AAPL shareholder, I too am VERY disappointed.
Aim for the MIDDLE and you’ll get the MIDDLE. That is what APPLE is doing.
WTF???
You, Gavin, have no clue as to what this means to professional photographers.
This is extremely disappointing to the 2 maybe 3 dozen Aperture users out there.
Not really; Aperture has giant share in its narrow market. But Apple just is not interested any more.
Well, just continue to blow, if that’s the form of sex you like.
i also got word that apple is in negotiations to buy adobe
IS OBAMA RUNNING APPLE? WHAT ELSE CAN GET WRECKED??? No Pro applications, Diminishing market share with EVERY device, Nobody even knows what’s on the horizon, No killer ANYTHING Since TWINKLE TOES took over.. WTF
Another indication that there is no real reason to use APPLE in a pro setting.. THATS the message.
I completely agree – with around 50,000 images in Aperture I feel disheartened about both the Aperture program and the fact that Apple is saying goodbye to a large section of professionals.
I see this as worse than the fcx ‘event’ and like a bad car accident or death – no one thinks it will happen to them. But, like death, it happens to all of us and only those with the needed safety net will fare well. In the case of death I have Jesus, in the case of Aperture I have to wait and see what Apple will deliver or some Indie dev – but I refuse to use Adobe no matter what.
nnoooooooooooo!!! I’ve got 25,000 photos in Aperture and have spend YEARS learning out to use it. DAMMIT Apple what the hell!
Try learning to read! ““‘When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS.’”
“Try to learning to read!” ???
Try learning to understand another persons concerns before assuming he can’t or hasn’t read the article. If Apple was setting out to make Photos have the same workflow capabilities present in Aperture why are they working with Adobe to ensure a smooth transition to Lightroom?
POOP.
I guess I should be using Lightroom but Adobe just sucks so much.
you can still use Aperture for as long as you want…
Gavin:
You really are retarded, aren’t you? I was going to ask you to attempt to comprehend the reasons why it won’t be possible to use Aperture indefinitely, but your level intelligence dictates that you can’t read anyway…
If you were hit by a bus tomorrow (no, I’m not hoping for that), the average IQ of the world would increase several points.
Thanks for your insightful thinking, “One Who Knows”. Really added a lot to the discussion.
…more useful than ‘Gavin’s inane suggestion.
I switched to Lightroom 2 years ago. It is a much better program than Aperture, and the online tutorials are fantastic!
Not sure about Apertule, but Photos is better than Lightroom.
Shocker!! now there is no one to keep Adobe honest, the price of Adobe apps can now rise with no deterrent.
you can still use Aperture for as long as you want…
…Gavin, is that you with your useless comments? Sure SOUNDS like you…
you can still use Aperture for as long as you want…
Guess none of you people have a clue how programs work. Aperture WILL KEEP WORKING. It is not being physically deleted from your computer!!
Sigh. You can continue to use Aperture as long as you want AND:
1) You never buy a new camera for RAW images that the current version of Aperture knows nothing about
2) Yosemite+ doesn’t change the file system in any way that breaks Aperture (which is the kind of history that has led to many point updates within Aperture thus far)
3) The plug-ins you use regularly continue to get updated to support Yosemite+ (why would they, given the EOL nature of Aperture?)
4) I’m sure there are other reasons that’ll become clear in the next little while
Here’s some more:
5) It likely won’t sync directly to iOS devices in future upgrades since iTunes will be looking for the Photos library.
6) It likely won’t sync directly with the new iCloud.
7) It likely won’t sync directly with Facebook upon their next API change.
8) It likely won’t sync directly with Flickr upon their next API change.
9) It will stop working with any media browsing apps as Photos will be the default image library on OS X.
Really, saying it “will keep working” is the stupidest comment one could make right now.
Well Apature CERTAINLY WONT get any better!!!
What is Apple thinking? We’ve waited YEARS to OWN SOME kind of market share and they ALWAYS give it away.
I have to use FCP7 and now Apature and basically keep my system “Frozen in time” so that the programs work.
YOU HAVE to understand that standards and spec change with technology advances, and this f$($CKING SUCKS????
AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND that the new “APPS” are NOT PROFESSIONAL, especially if FINAL CUT PRO EX, TEN Vista is any indication. YOU CANNOT use it for broadcast. PERIOD. Without insane work arounds and expensive plug ins. The flow BLOWS… Youtube, Yes, A wedding or student type short,, Sure, but when you cannot export to specs asked for by ad agencies, you’re screwed.
Apature will now join that lot, and the more troubling idea is that APPLE wants NOTHING PRO?
WHY???? IT’s not like they dont have the money for R&D?
I need a reason to Buy an APPLE RIG.. that is 4 times the money of an nearly equivalent PC.. Yes, Equivalent.
So WTF? WHat is the new Mac PRO for? How dumb.
This attitude reverberates through the entire community.
Apple just broke trust.. Screw THEM. How dumb.
TWINKLE TOES has no idea what he is doing.
Is “Twinkle Toes” a reference to Tim Cook’s private life? I hope your career is in the trash.
Ted, take your meds, and learn to spell, okay? It’s Aperture.
Nice use of CAPS, Ted. Really adds SO MUCH.
Just like legacy works on today’s OS.
Absolutely HORRIBLE move by Apple. 180 billion dollars they have in cash and they cant keep Aperture going?
Good god, Apple CREATED the type of program that Aperture was. Adobe FOLLOWED Apple.
This is just sickening to the highest level.
I am furious at this betrayal by Apple.
yes sad but
you can still use Aperture for as long as you want…
And commercial photographers can use glass plates, but they might have trouble convincing clients that the technology is current. Would you use a pro who insisted on using obsolete tools?
What is this, reddit?
Are you retarded?
You sure sound like a broken record. About as useful, too. Ahhh, troll you are. I see.
Apple is a company. Companies exist to make money. Margins are more important that photo professionals because margins affect bottom lines. Apple makes it’s real money from mobile device and some from computers… people who own iPhones and Mac’s won’t stop owning them because one pro photo app is no longer available. Thus Apple doesn’t care what any of us think about them killing aperture… less man hours spent on that, that they have to pay for will ultimately mean more money in their coffers which again is what they care about most because they are a company and companies exist to protect and expand their bottom line.
We get that, but the decision isn’t based solely on whether one product makes money or not.
“people who own iPhones and Mac’s won’t stop owning them because one pro photo app is no longer available.”
Actually, yes, they will. They’ll stop buying other stuff as well. Anyone still on the fence for Final Cut or other creative software are now more likely to just go with Adobe since that is their core business. If Adobe ever favors Windows over OS X, and you’re locked into your workstation as an Adobe Workstation, then switching to Windows makes sense.
Apple is putting photo professionals on the other side of the walled garden.
If I’m not syncing my
ApertureLightroom library via iCloud, then there’s no need for me to pay for a large iCloud subscription. If I’m not able to export a library for easy import into iPhoto/Photos, then there’s no incentive to recommend to clients that they use that instead of Lightroom, or even use a Mac. If I’m not able to easily sync Lightroom to iOS devices, that removes the reason to have extra iPads or give them to clients.The scenarios go on and on, but the message is clear and one more example of Apple being willing to screw over professionals. Don’t rely on Apple products if you’re a professional.
If Apple wants to make money from professionals in the future, this isn’t the way to do it.
Adobe DOES Favor PC boxes.. They have since the end of the 90s.
Also, EVERYTHING in the PC market is WAY less expensive, And Face it, Works about as good, minus the overall OS…
You know what I mean… I can switch.. I dont want to, but F****$%.
ALSO, It’s not like APPLE is doing such a great job holding onto market share with their mobile devices.. They’ve let that ALL slip away to Android and Samsung.. That’s why everyone here is so defensive. We WANT Apple to be the BEST.. not
PROSUMER. FCP X isn’t even prosumer. Beiieve me.
With all that, you really have no reason to return here, do you, Ted?
So they finally get around to releasing Pro hardware last year, yet are slowly cannibalizing their array of Pro applications. Photos for OS X will likely end up being like the new Pages/Keynote/Numbers… built more for the mainstream, and less for the Pros.
Sadly this is the side of Apple that stinks never forgiven them for tempting me to iWeb and then shutting me out with no way to transfer my web sites. But for pros this must be a real stab in the back how can they trust Apple again, indeed how can any of us in such matters. It was their incompetence that allowed Aperture to sit in a state of atrophy because so it appears that they are too incompetent or unwilling to sort out its problems. Good job the Mac Pro was released or pros would have moved out in droves listening to all the rumours of Apple becoming disinterested.
Hmmm. Not sure what you mean. I still use iWeb. I publish to FTP servers without issue, there was minimal effort moving my sites to other providers.
You went through the effort of migrating to another host provider, but not moving off iWeb? Have fun with that when the iWeb app stops working.
If you’ve got a one-page website or whatever, that’s not going to be a problem, but anyone who actually invested much in development with iWeb was pretty screwed by Apple’s two-fold decision to abandon iWeb without any real export option to a 3rd party CMS.
If you’re actually developing with iWeb, you should really get out as soon as possible and go with something like WordPress.
FTA: Dalrymple reports, “Apple was very clear when I spoke with them this morning that development on other pro apps like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro is continuing. Professionals in those app categories should not worry about their apps — they will continue as normal.”
Ha, ha, ha. Good one!
For how long?
Yeah, Photography isn’t a very popular hobby…Er.. It never really caught on… WTF?????????????????
““Apple was very clear when I spoke with them this morning that development on other pro apps like Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro is continuing. Professionals in those app categories should not worry about their apps”
Nope. Apple’s actions have clearly sent the opposite message. Nothing says don’t trust that we’ll continue to support professional apps like killing off a professional app that people have relied upon for their work flow.
Having a professional photo app was no more core to Apple’s business than having a professional video app or any other app.
Everyone said to move to Lightroom because while you may hate Adobe, pro-creative software is there business.
I defending Apple through Final Cut Pro X, but they were right all along.
“Their.” And the rest isn’t so clear, either.
Sorry, I got distracted:
“I defending Apple through Final Cut Pro X, but they were right all along.”
Should read, “I defended Apple through the transition to Final Cut Pro X, but the people suggesting that it was time to jump ship to Adobe were right all along”.
This has to be a mistake…I just looked that the cost of Lightroom HOLY POOP that shit is like $119 A YEAR, I think you actually MUST subscribe to it – OMG this sucks!
No one is stopping you from using Aperture!
What a bunch of whiners.. you don’t even hardly have any knowledge of the replacement, but you instantly assume that its going to be bad.
Apple has had issues with some of its upgrades, but I would think they’ve learned something by now and I prefer to think Photos will be an excellent replacement, or you can probably still use the existing version of Aperture until your think you’ve found something better.. if there is something..
Photos is not actually a replacement… Unless Apple is concealing an awful lot of unknown capabilities so that they can jump out of a cake and shout ‘kidding’
You Freakin Numbnut – do you REALLY think that the replacement for iPhoto – GOD DAMMED I-P-H-O-T-O is going to have the features of Aperture. Just admit now you’ve never opened Aperture, have no idea what is and have no idea what a tragedy this is…go back to Facebook and leave us in our misery.
Well, guess what. I don’t know the full capabilities of the new photo app, and neither do you. I own and use Aperture, and frankly, there is little reason that Apple couldn’t roll it’s capabilities into the new app. In fact that is what I believe is happening; Aperture and iPhoto are EOL’d and new Photo is a merged collection of the best features. Now Apple has just a single photo app to maintain and build upon. I won’t be surprised at all to find the new app just as capable as Aperture.
I hope you are right. But I don’t have the warm fuzzies right now. Apple needs to get out ahead of this right now and be clear about the path forward.
He is WRONG. Because FINAL CUT PRO X is a perfect example of keeping the program at consumer levels.
What is APPLE THinking? EVERYONE thinks of Apple as a graphics arts computer. THE BEST, The ONLY REASON to really justify buying a MAC over a WAY cheaper PC with nearly the same specs.. FACE IT, THE SAME SPECS…
So now NO PRO APPS to use the APPLE graceful Interface.
SO WHAT’S THE POINT?
SO SO SO SO SILLY.
“EVERYONE thinks of Apple as a graphics arts computer. THE BEST, The ONLY REASON to really justify buying a MAC over a WAY cheaper PC with nearly the same specs.”
I think your rant is about twenty years out of date, Ted.
“Apple also said it is working with Adobe to help users transition to its Lightroom app for Mac.”
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/27/apple-announces-it-will-no-longer-develop-aperture-or-iphoto-os-x-yosemite-photos-app-to-serve-as-replacement
If this was the case then their efforts to ‘work with Adobe to ensure a smooth transition to lightroom’ would be illogical and useless on their part… They wouldn’t need to transition anyone to Adobe Lightroom if their new offering was gong to give pros what they need instead of Aperture. Don’t be dense on purpose mate. You don’t know what’s in the update, no; but they sure do and with that knowledge they are working with Adobe on a upgrade play from Aperture to Lightroom… It doesn’t take a the sharpest spoon in the drawer to comprehend this situation.
Sharp spoons?
Next up, bowl knives … ;~)
Yes, you would think that, after 38 years, Apple’s learned something from its sordid history of botched and/or rushed updates and merciless software kill-offs, but nope.
“Professionals in those app categories should not worry about their apps — they will continue as normal.”
There is absolutely no reason why anyone should believe this. I don’t use Aperture, but Logic is my lifeblood, and this worries me greatly. I don’t know how else to say it, but: Fuck you, Apple.
Never let your livelihood depend on one application.
Are you seriously suggesting that professionals should maintain multiple libraries of all of their images, all of their adjustments, all of their outputs, just in case one or the other applications goes EOL?
Totally agree. What a fanboy clueless post.
I’m sorry that you disagree, and I hope your livelihood is totally fucked.
Sorry, ISN’T totally fucked.
While your sound bite sounds sensible, you are not thinking it through from the perspective of a professional that Apple just HOSED.
Your statement amounts to don’t trust one family car to get you to work.
As a visual communications specialist published all over the world, I have invested six digits in equipment. Certainly not going to double or triple that investment which naturally leads to double or triple my workload to safeguard myself because one day Apple, in yet another bonehead move, may pull the plug on yet another fine piece of pro software I depend on for a living.
Personally, this is the straw that broke the camels back. When iWeb was yanked, adopted Dreamweaver full-time. When Final Cut Pro was dumbed down I moved to Avid. I bought Pages and Numbers and quickly concluded Microsoft does it better in functionality and tolerated the hideous GUI. And now Aperture is possibly dumbed down and swallowed whole by iPhoto for kids.
With this latest in what is becoming routine from Apple, this long time user is putting my money elsewhere to survive.
Going back to my Lisa days, I never thought the day would come I could not trust Apple and have to work AROUND them.
Thank you for your concern about my livelihood.
I’m seriously suggesting that not putting all your eggs in one basket is ALWAYS a good idea. Don’t agree? I couldn’t care less.
We are all impressed with your display of humanity and sympathy. Why did we not immediately realize that something that doesn’t affect you personally can’t possibly matter to anybody else? After all, the universe revolves around you, not us.
So what you’re saying is it’s theoretically possible that the universe does revolve around Grigori even though our Sun is our center within this solar system and our earth revolves around the sun but the universe could still revolve around Grigori… Interesting.
Yeah, I’m no ray of sunshine.
“I’m seriously suggesting that not putting all your eggs in one basket is ALWAYS a good idea.”
The problem is that you really have no choice in the matter. Imagine if the issue here was that you have a bazillion eggs to put in a basket, and the unit of measurement that we’re concerned about is time spent putting eggs in basket.
In this scenario, you could spend 10 days putting a bazillion eggs in one basket or 20 days putting 2 bazillion eggs in two baskets. If you’re only concerned with the days spent putting eggs in a basket, go with one basket and hope for the best. The worst case scenario is that you need the second basket and you’re exactly where you would’ve been had you made that decision. Best case scenario is that you saved half the time.
Translated back to Aperture…
To not put all of your eggs in one basket, or rely on one application, meant that you would’ve had to have done every project in Aperture and then again in Lightroom.
You would’ve doubled the amount of work from the beginning, which is exactly where you are now in saying that you need to take your Aperture projects and redo them in Lightroom. Although, in reality, for most of us, not all of our projects need to be redone in Lightroom.
You would’ve also ended up with needing twice the storage, and twice the effort and resources in backing up.
Still, for some of us, it’s days/weeks or more of work to migrate now to Lightroom.
HATE it!!!!!
Things like this take the shine off “EVERYTHING Apple” for me. All of a sudden I feel I don’t want to stand in line for an iPhone or iPad anymore. It has just become kind of ……..ordinary.
Boo Hoo – whatever – you can still use Aperture for as long as you want… but when you finally get over this news and still want NOT to use Apple products anymore, then gook luck to you may you find your way.
How can you possibly have that stand, unless you are just an agitator. You voted for Obama, Correct???
Apple, The COMMON CORE of computers.
This is truly unfortunate. The Lightroom interface is truly awful and non-intuitive…the software works…but it’s hard to get around in and will cost you $120 a year to use it..
So obviously as previously noted, the PHOTOS app is aimed at the Instagram user…the user of the iPhone taking pictures of gramma or their drunk friend or a flower that they can throw a “cool” filter on and then forget it… I cannot use Pages..it’s simply not very good. It’s not functional beyond a church newsletter… I cannot use Numbers…it’s not very good software…perhaps useful for Junior High students… I used to use Keynote but the whole “Slideshow Presentation” ethic is archaic…it’s better than Powerpoint but so is a pile of cow dung. I will NOT be moving to PHOTOS as an Aperture replacement and WON’T be storing photos in iCloud. It’s just ridiculous. There are other professional apps for the Mac platform out there…time to look more seriously at those.
It’s even worse than that.
The great thing about Aperture, is that you can finish a project and then easily sync to an iPad and hand it to a client for review. Lightroom sucks for this.
Likewise, you can edit a whole library in Aperture, and deliver it to anyone with iPhoto and they can simply open/import it.
The best and only feature set aperture has over Lightroom is its integration with the other apps in apples walled garden. I still need to find simple integration solutions for Lightroom.
Aperture has been dead in the water for years. Apple is only now just telling the truth about its long term mismanagement of this entire division.
I keep my Lightroom on MAC and iPad synced with push of one button. I also can send edited work to clients from Lightroom to any of a number of viewers. You may prefer the way Aperture did this for you, but your comments are not factual in regards to Lightroom.
You can’t deny that Aperture had a lot of features and functionality when it comes to syncing across iOS devices that are completely missing from Lightroom. Whether you used them or not is another story.
When I saw this horribly depressing story, I reluctantly decided to give Lightroom a try.
When I went over to adobe’s website and looked at the “how to buy” section of lightroom and could find no way to buy it outright. The only thing there was that cloud crap of $10/mo for all eternity, $120/year.
So I went over to amazon and found the box of Lightroom 5 so coughed up the $135. I’d much rather pay this once than have them milk me like a cow. I despise this subscription model that is cropping up everywhere.
Sadly, Adobe is not updating their “Stand Alone” programs anymore, so that version you just picked up is as FROZEN as apature. (That is how it is with Adobe Premiere for video) I hope you have better luck. Thas is why I am so PISSED about APPLE abandoning their PRO community, because I CAN only tolerate this for SO LONG.. and I think they jumped the shark.
I really dont NEED Apple anymore. Perhaps like it a bit, But certainly dont NEED COMMON CORE APPLE.
“I really dont NEED Apple anymore.”
OK. Great. bye-bye.
By the way, using CAPS every few words to ATTEMPT to intensify WHAT YOU ARE SAYING went out of style a LONG time ago.
I READ you are admitting YOU are SO OUT of STYLE. Interesting …
As of this morning I have 84,779 images referenced by my main Aperture library, and a dozen other libraries I’ve set aside because the projects there are old.
Apple told Jim Dalrymple that Aperture customers should move to Lightroom, all but acknowledging that Photos will never pretend to be Aperture.
I therefore conclude I have at least 84,779 reasons to hate this decision by Apple.
“Apple told Jim Dalrymple that Aperture customers should move to Lightroom”…where did you see this?
“Apple also said it is working with Adobe to help users transition to its Lightroom app for Mac.”
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/27/apple-announces-it-will-no-longer-develop-aperture-or-iphoto-os-x-yosemite-photos-app-to-serve-as-replacement
By backtracking the articles I have found no original reference that Apple is providing support to switch to Lightroom. The furthest back I found was TechCrunch that updated their article with a notice that “there is no official migration path to Lightroom”. Until Photos is released nobody knows what the program will be capable of. Perhaps it will be Aperture rolled into an iPhoto-like interface or maybe it’ll be a complete rewriting of the software like in Final Cut X that is still causing some people anger and distress. Final Cut Pro X is a superior program to Final Cut 7 in almost every way except for a few very professional capabilities that most people never will use.
Careful with the quote. The update says, and this is cut & paste: “Article updated to clarify that there is no official workflow for migrating to Lightroom.” No workflow for migrating. Also read carefully that Apple points out they are ceasing development of their “pro” photo app. That strongly suggests there will not be the features associated with pros which have distinguished Aperture from the consumer app requirements.
NO Professional likes or uses Final Cut Pro X. They’ve all moved to Premiere or Avid.. PERIOD. the ONLY people using FCPX are very consumer oriented hobbyists at best. GO to the comments section of the people who OWN FCPX, half like it MOST hate it, there is no in between. NO school teaches FCP X anymore, and anyone aspiring to be a video editor, or be in the film industry, or anything along those lines, DOES NOT use or aspire to use FCPX. It is for youtube, and honestly, ANY other program does what FCPX does better, and much more sensibly. Yes you can make FCPX work, but at your peril, because learning it means you are NOT learning what is not the industry standard, PREMIERE or AVID.
So good luck turning your hobby into a profession, because nobody wants to know that you are a great FCPX editor, NOBODY. Got it????
Look on Craigs list for jobs requiring FCPX skills.. There are none.
Mr Ted, you may see my film trailer work with FCPX on movie screens across the country. It is a superior program to Premier which is stuck in the 2000’s. The interface is superior to AVID while it’s networking isn’t at all. Work on a project that requires several editors doing various different tasks? Get AVID and pay for it, they charge for the options. Working by yourself like many professional editors do, FCPX is the way to go. For $300. Stop behaving like the program just came out, it’s here and the future for editing.
So iCloud & Apple will digital shut off Aperture on my Mac nor allow me to upgrade to the final version of Aperture? What? No?
JUST KEEP USING APERTURE that you like today people. No problem.
It likely will be a problem, because Aperture likely won’t sync with the new iCloud, or with the new iTunes which will be syncing with Photos.
Also, telling Pros to use software that’s EOL isn’t a “no problem” situation.
You can use DropBox or other “Cloud Services” to link with your Mac too, so use that route.
Also, Yosemite OSX is not out yet. You have no idea what the final connection between OSX / iOS Photos program & Aperture will be with Photo Cloud of iCloud. Wait & see. calm down. The sky is not falling.
Well, there’s this: “Apple also said it is working with Adobe to help users transition to its Lightroom app for Mac.”
Whatever Photos is, it won’t be designed to be used by professionals. Apple made it clear that Photos was a replacement for iPhoto.
They’ve specifically announced that Aperture won’t be supported after Yosemite.
“You can use DropBox or other “Cloud Services” to link with your Mac too, so use that route.”
Do you have any idea what Aperture even is???
Yes. Use Aperture & put your photos on another Cloud. Not using iPhoto anyway. Transfer files up to Cloud storage, download, use Aperture on RAW files, save, upload back to Cloud Storage.
You’ve never fully used Aperture in this respect. It’s much more than just being about the files, it’s about meta-data, and that syncs with iOS as well as within OS X via media browsing. Remove that, and you’ve just removed the major reason why I, and many others, chose Aperture over Lightroom to begin with.
Wait till Yosemite comes out to see what your options are before jumping off a cliff.
Honeslty, such a silly stupid statement, I’m sorry, but don’t you realize that time moves quickly. I have to keep my rigs Frozen in time, and cannot move to new OS because FCP7 uses that.
New cameras come out all the time with new specs. 4k, and more, that did not exist when FCP 7 was last upgraded.
People when they hire do not want to know you are stuck in time. People aspire to be the best. Apple no longer does.
And the dirty little secret is that ALL the consumers that common core APPLE is pushing their crap on WANT TO BE PROS one day.
Idiots.
People, leave (polite) feedback for Apple:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html
If you have other software that you’re now concerned about, or other hardware that you have because of Aperture, find the feedback section that applies to you:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
Sorry to be a cynic, but I concluded long ago that leaving feedback for Apple (a.k.a. the tired response to anybody’s complaint about anything Apple) is a complete waste of time.
If you ever needed proof that Apple doesn’t care, this article is it.
I disagree, look at Final Cut Pro X. Apple responded to a lot of complaints and issues. Apple does a lot of controversial things that piss people off from time to time, but they also can see things as a major crisis that they need to react to when the feedback is strong enough.
I also have some insight from people at various levels within the company. Feedback matters, even if there’s an attitude that it doesn’t.
Professionals put Apple on the map and kept them in business. Shame on Apple for stabbing them in the back, yet again.
There are alternatives but none as integrated..
You might note Photo Mechanic…it’s pretty strong and the choice of pros around the world…
http://www.camerabits.com/products/
It would appear that the commitment to professionals has faded badly in the last few years. Final Cut Pro was seriously underdeveloped when it was first released and while it has been improved…it’s not likely to be fully at the level the last version was for a while yet. Logic…very good software…but still lacking in some areas…. and obviously the iWork suite of programs all so weak and pointless now that they are useless to anyone in the professional graphics or number crunching fields. Apple is a CONSUMER company and moving ever more in that direction. The gap created by this move will create opportunities for others to develop and support professional level software.
Thank you for the link. It appears, though, that Photo Mechanic doesn’t do any image editing, instead offering a tutorial on how to export to Lightroom. It does look like an outstanding database, but having to go to Adobe’s subscription model for image editing is painful. I may try to combine Photo Mechanic with Pixelmator, but having the ability to batch change a selection of photos has been a real timesaver.
COMMON CORE APPLE
See what pans out. Search for “aperture alternatives. Then maybe having something like this in the back pocket will do. http://www.phaseone.com/en/Imaging-Software/Capture-One-Pro-7.aspx
I have several programs I’ve used for years without upgrading, because they came to end of life, or because I don’t need their new abilities and I stick with the version I already know.
Aperture isn’t going to stop working. They’re just not going to continue developing it. Is there some huge hole in its abilities? Could it perhaps serve you well, doing what it, in particular, does, over the next several years?
The problem with this view is that camera manufacturers keep updating their raw image file formats as new cameras are introduced and without on-going software maintenance you are asking the professional to no longer depreciate and upgrade the basic tool of his profession: His cameras. Additionally, when you’re ingesting 1000 images a day your survival is based upon your keyword strategy — continuing to tie several more years of images to a keyword strategy that has no guarantee of being importable into another program is folly. Look at it this way: At present Apple is working with Adobe to help transition Aperture users to Lightroom. Two years from now when Adobe has continued to develop their platform it’s entirely likely that “old” import tools will have fallen away, making the “wait and keep using” argument further risky for the professional.
Integrate with iPhoto or its replacement. Gone. Seamless iCloud integration. Gone. Use with the next versions of IWork or iLife. Gone. Assurance that it will survive OS upgrades. Gone.
You can only stay with the program if you are willing to forgo updating anything else, including hardware. Not really practical for a professional.
As with Pages and iWeb, file formats are proprietary so there is no chance of a third-party bailout.
Thanks to both of you for the information. Nice to be able to admit ignorance, ask an honest question and get informative answers — missing the abuse so beloved of some of the jerks around here.
not only does apple kill aperture, but they update FCPX, the prores codecs, and Motion. It’s causing my face to do one of those overjoyed with pain moments. Seriously though…I love aperture. The Loop, the ease of adding filters. Creating time lapses in that program was awesome.
I make my living in photography, travel the whole world to do so. In the last three years, I have not see any major studio, lab or photography brand still using Aperture. Pro’s simply prefer Adobe for variety of reasons. Must of us want Adobe to have stiff competition in order to keep them on their toes, but none of us were going to migrating to Aperture.
Maybe this points to the “why”. Maybe, in spite of the enthusiasm of some, there were just way too few users to continue development. They gave it a good run and finally acknowledged, “It just ain’t happening.”
While it must be true that sales of the pro app were dropping, it doesn’t help the installed base.
Let’s suppose you’re doing an outdoor wedding and some dust got on the sensor of the body you’re using for closeups. In post you fixed the dust spots on one picture and then used built in selection tools to gather up all of the photos from that body, and batch applied that dust fix. Those “fixes” are really just instructions stored within the Aperture library, as Aperture never altered your RAW master. In a couple of months you have to switch to Lightroom. How exactly are those dust fixes going to find their way into your Adobe environment? Now (after the switch) the bride and groom want to pick up some of the images they saw but didn’t purchase in the first go-around. You already got paid for your work, and now have to go redo work that you had already done. Not a profitable endeavor. Yes, certainly the fact that Aperture will still run may help you out here, but I think we can agree this is not sustainable.
Apple just lost a customer.
Mac user here since 1994.
My next computer will be a PC. I’ll wait to see what W9 looks like, or go Linux. My next phone *will not* be an iPhone.
For all you ‘see ya later’ cretins: FU
Give this 1 star if you agree Apple screwed the pro.
Your last sentence is contrary to how the ratings system works. I like your comment, so I should give you 5 starts, but I also think Apple screwed the pro, which is why I liked your comment.
Not every decision at Apple has been made wisely.
Of course, when Google does this the crowd around here trumpets that this is one more reason to switch to iOS.
I have Aperture. Don’t really use it (certainly isn’t Photoshop, don’t use it enough to see how it really benefits be above and beyond iPhoto).
OTOH, I still use Photoshop CS6 because I’m not willing to pay a subscription fee to Adobe. So I don’t particularly buy the “can’t continue to use the existing version because I’m a pro” argument.
Well, after today’s announcement it’s sort of pointless to spend any time explaining the vast differences to the professional photographer that exist between iPhone and Aperture, but they are immense and deep.
You certainly don’t have to buy the “can’t continue to use the existing version because I’m a pro” argument, but that would probably be because you’re not the sort of professional who replaces your camera bodies all that often and have not yet had to wait while your software was updated to work with the new wrinkle on raw file format the manufacturer needed to implement for this new camera.
I can choose a different airline to get me to my next assignment because the airline and my camera gear are not interdependent. I can choose a different rental car company for the same reason. But my photo cataloging and manipulation software does bear on the camera bodies I can use, which is a constraint I’m not happy with. Apple had been reasonably timely in updating Aperture to support new RAW formats, but with this announcement there is no reason to expect that anymore. So for those of us who professionally use Aperture it’s days are very quickly ending because in addition to becoming proficient in a different software solution we have a lot of conversion work to get done.
I too use the CS6 full suite and have two backup computers to keep me going for many years.
I don’t have to worry about the coming flat OSX, what works and what Apple shut off, monthly Adobe car payment or Apple screwing over the Pro graphics users one more time … screw them all.
Signed, stuck in the good times …
It’s true. I still use CS3, because there’s still just no compelling enough reason to upgrade. However, for me, this is more about the message that it sends. It’s the message that Apple’s not committed to its pro customers, and despite its mountains of cash, wants to shift its focus more to consumers.
Uh, it could simply mean Apple will transfer the bulk of Aperture to Yosemite photos. This way Apple will add the missing features of Aperture to Photos over time and correct what Aperture is weak at now.
No worries!
Except that Apple and Adobe are working together to transition users to Lightroom.
No, the App is to move Aperture users to Photos, to Adobe. Aperture and iPhoto are being discontinued and will likely move to a more advanced model.
Should be: “Aperture users to Photos, not Adobe.” Spell check!
I do hope that’s true, but I know how to read between the lines in Apple announcements, and telling “other” professional users to not worry, that Logic and FCP will continue is tantamount to telling pro photographers that their needs are not the needs Apple will be addressing in future photo software.