“Apple’s A7 chips will feel some 64-bit heat from Intel and Android next year,” Brooke Crothers reports for CNET.
MacDailyNews Take: Yup, if they’re from Intel, they’re sure to run quite hot.
“Intel is readying a 64-bit Bay Trail Atom platform for Android, according to Hermann Eul, Intel’s general manager, mobile and communications group, speaking at the company’s investor day on Thursday,” Crothers reports. “An assistant then proceeded to demo on stage ‘the first ever showing of a 64-bit kernel running on Bay Trail with Android.’ Eul continued, ‘We have 64-bit Windows shipping next quarter and, needless to say, we’ll run fast to make this happen on Android as well.'”
“Today, Android on smartphones and tablets is a 32-bit affair,” Crothers reports. “A 64-bit platform can allow data-intensive applications to handle large chunks of data more efficiently than 32-bit — and that can have implications in gaming, for instance. Intel won’t be alone, though, making a run at Apple. A report earlier this month said Samsung will launch a flagship smartphone with a 64-bit CPU in 2014.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Apple also-rans. Late to the party. As usual.
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Apple has the lead and they will refine their chip and sprint ahead of any new offerings, bet on it.
… but we were told that 64 bit on a mobile device was nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
Reading the comments on C/Net is comical. There are a lot of disparaging comments about how Apple implemented 64 bit, that there is nothing out there that requires 64 bit, that Android will implement 64 bit better than Apple ad nauseum.
The deal is though, Apple’s move to 64 bit has caused an entire industry to develop 64 bit alternatives to Apple’s solution. If 64 bit is a marketing gimmick (as they all claim), then why are Apple’s largest competitors investing hundreds of millions (billions?) developing chips and rewriting OSs to copy Apple’s initiative?
The rest of the industry had 64 bit on the back burner, or on the shelf. They didn’t see this coming, and now that Apple has seized an advantage, scrambling has commenced in the labs, and nonsense is being spewed in the blogosphere to buy time.
When it comes to Android, 64-bit WILL be just a marketing gimmick.
Sounds like when Andy Rubin dismissed Siri as a gimmick when he said, “people shouldn’t be talking to their phones” and then came up with Google Now…hypocrites
Will Android be completely 64 bit? Even if the processor is 64 Bit, the question will be on the Apps and Core software. Apple has cover this problem already and not just having a processor that is 64 bit.
Google absolutely has to update Android to 64-bit even if it kills them. They’re not going to let Apple one-up them on anything. Google would never live it down if they did. Google needs Android to constantly exert pressure on Apple so as to devalue Apple’s core hardware business. When you’ve become the tech darling of Wall Street you have to step up and be ready to crush all rivals. Android must at least stay in lock-step with iOS and Google probably wishes it had a 65-bit Android OS just to say they’ve pulled well ahead of Apple. Google now has plenty of money for Android projects, so they’ll manage it somehow.
A 64-bit Android OS is going to give developers fits if there aren’t any decent porting tools ready. If we’re lucky, all that fragmentation will rip the Android ecosystem to shreds considering the vast amount of hardware configurations out there on Android devices. I’m sure it would leave an awful lot of Android devices behind. Consumers might not care but I believe developers would.
But Android is written as 32 bit OS. Will they rewrite this to 64bit? In a few months?
Hmmmm, maybe they will steal some code from Oracle again.
“…Eul continued, ‘We have 64-bit Windows shipping next quarter …”
Does he mean Windows Phone or Windows RT or what?
I think it would be RT tablets plus a few smartphones as atom smartphones are hardly a massive success with their thirsty present chips.
It’s always very interesting how Apple can be way ahead of the competition, but they’re always the ones that need to be in fear of the competition.
Ooh boy, you better watch out Apple. A year from now, the competition might finally be where you already are NOW!
Golly, I hope Apple is not resting on its laurels and staying still. *rolls eyes*
I think it’s been said that the man that stands at the top is always in greater danger of being knocked down when there are multiple rivals. However, I’ve also heard that the man at the top has the advantage of higher ground when fighting a single rival. It doesn’t really matter because every situation is different.
The industry always claiming that Apple will always be the easiest company to take down seems like a crock and it’s most likely wishful thinking on their part. I could be wrong but I find it almost impossible to fathom that a company that’s trying to stay ahead and has nearly $150 billion in cash to back it up would seem to be a formidable adversary. I suppose any company could fall if it were really incompetent or lazy but it wouldn’t be all that easy and it wouldn’t be overnight.
I think you are at the wrong party unless its fancy dress.
And the Russians are still going to send a man to the Moon.
Well depending on the architecture they wouldn’t pull much or produce much heat. But if they use older intel architecture then it would be bad.
And Microsoft and Google are known for doing half assed jobs with OS programming
Anything Apple does is considered marketing hype, but if Android or Windows gets it, then it’s really important. The tech industry seems to be full of hypocrites. If they don’t like or understand what Apple is doing, they should just keep quiet if they’re so confident in their own technology.
Almost every high-end Android smartphone is running four-core 32-bit processors so if that makes them feel secure, then so be it. Why concern themselves about Apple running a dual-core 64-bit processor if it doesn’t prove a threat to them? Obviously, if next year all the chip makers start putting 64-bit processors into their own mobile devices it only proves they were pissed because Apple got the jump on them. Of course, they can always create some four-core 64-bit processor and say they’ve bested Apple by a couple of extra cores. And more is always better, right?
I think the best part is Crothers admits that there are advantages to 64 bit even without 4 gigs of RAM. Probably because they know the first 64 bit Android phones won’t have that much RAM. This proves Android is feeling heat now. Sometime next year Android developers can start writhing 64 bit code; like they have been for a year on iOS. Is this a x86 chip? They said they have been running Win 8.1, I believe that is x86 not ARM. I didn’t think Android was for x86. If I’m right than that is another version of Android. No mater what they say Apple is ahead now, and it won’t be hard to stay in the lead. Maybe next year Android will have easy use anti theft software also too.
I am not programming savvy, but recently read that Android will easily move to 64 bit because of its Linux, I believe, core and most Android apps will immediately be able to use it because of their architecture. I don’t know enough to evaluate the claim, but thought I would pass it along.
What is of greater concern is needing a water-cooled chip to run it.
They’ve all been shown the way. Now it’s just who can do it as good as Apple has implementing the subsystem. Unless they’ve already been working on this for a considerable amount of time, it won’t be at all easy getting anything worthwhile out there next year. Engineering trade studies, and down-selecting the options takes considerable time, especially if you have to prototype a proof of concept. Then you find out what doesn’t work as planned and refine it. Or do as Samsung would, just copy it 100% and pay lawyers because developing new systems is more expensive than paying lawyers and fines.
But, but, but, the 64 bit stuff was all just marketing hype…..Bwa hahahaHaha