Rush Limbaugh: Steve Jobs has greatly influenced Ashton Kutcher (with video)

Mac, iPhone, and iPad user Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday discussed the tech media and their relationship with Apple.

The 3-hour Rush Limbaugh Show airs daily on a network of approximately 590 AM and FM affiliate stations. The program is also broadcast worldwide on the U.S. Armed Forces Radio Network. A November 2008 poll by Zogby International found that Rush Limbaugh was the most trusted news personality in the nation.

 
From the live on-air transcript:

This is Sunday night, the Ultimate Choice Award [Ashton Kutcher] got at the Teen Choice Awards. He stars as Steve Jobs in the movie “Jobs.”

 
By the way, I will be reviewing that movie. I got my official, powerful, influential member of the media copy. They even went so far as to close caption it so I can actually see the dialogue as I watch the movie. Just came in today. I’m gonna try to watch it later this afternoon.

 
We have three sound bites from Kutcher here. The Teen Choice Awards, low-information audience. I want you to listen to this.

 

Kutcher: I believe that opportunity looks a lot like hard work.

When I was 13 I had my first job with my dad carrying shingles up to the roof. And then I got a job washing dishes at a restaurant. And then I got a job in a grocery store deli. And then I got a job in a factory sweeping cheerio dust off the ground.

And I’ve never had a job in my life that I was better than. I was always just lucky to have a job. And every job I had was a stepping stone to my next job, and I never quit my job until I had my next job.

And so, opportunities look a lot like work.

 
Right on. Now, don’t ho-hum this, folks. This is a message that young kids today are not hearing except maybe in their homes from their parents, but they’re not hearing this. They’re not hearing this from Obama. They’re not hearing this from presidential or political leadership. This kind of message of hard work, the traditional American route to success and happiness is what’s being made fun of, it’s what’s being said is not possible anymore. The reason why there is a malaise, this fog of depression that has rolled in over this whole country, is because young people particularly don’t think there’s any opportunity for them. They don’t think there’s any left. They don’t believe there’s any prosperity out there for them.

They have been told that evil corporations and evil Republicans and the rich have taken it all from them. Do not laugh. The vast majority of even college graduates are taught this. So when Kutcher, at the Teen Choice Awards, stands up and offers a traditional, uplifting, motivational, and inspirational speech on how he became successful, it’s remarkable. I say remarkable because the low-information crowd watching it is hearing it. They ended up cheering it, and they’re not hearing it, except perhaps in their homes. We don’t know of course what goes on with their parents, but we know that everywhere else they go, we know that the songs they listen to, we know that the movies they watch, we know that the classrooms that they attend, do not give them this message.

What he said at the Teen Choice Awards is not being said to kids. Again, I’m gonna hold out the possibility that some of their parents do tell them this traditional message, but in the pop culture media they don’t hear this message. Hell, they’re all depressed. There is a fog of depression, fog bank, fog just rolled all over this country. There’s pessimism, particularly among young people, and it’s because they do not think there’s any prosperity left for them, they don’t think there’s any stuff left for them. They don’t think there’s any money to be earned; it’s all gone. Their parents or grandparents’ generation were the last ones that really had it made. And they’re certainly not hearing this kind of message from anybody in politics that they vote for.

They’re not hearing it from Obama. They’re not hearing it from any Democrat. They’re not hearing a can-do. They’re not hearing America is great. They’re not hearing about American exceptionalism. They’re not hearing anything about opportunity equals hard work. They’re not hearing the message that hard work pays off. They’re not hearing the message that having a job is a great way to become successful and prosperous. They’re not hearing about how one job’s a stepping stone to another job, where you climb, they’re not hearing this, folks. They are not hearing this. Admit it; this is one of the things that has been quietly eating away at all of us. All the things that we were raised by, all the things we were raised with growing up, they have vanished, they’re laughed at, mocked, and made fun of because it’s not possible anymore.

One of the reasons I think that there’s a tremendous Steve Jobs influence in this is because that last sound bite is Steve Jobs. That’s practically a direct quote from Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs wrote and spoke often about being young, growing up, and entering the adult world. He’s a little bit of a rebel now and then. And he looked at what life was.

He saw a lot of formulas, and people were living formulas and plugging themselves into formulas, and then trying to climb the ladders that existed in the various formulas. And he questioned it. And he questioned the assumption that everybody was smarter than he was, particularly older people and more successful people he claimed were smarter than he was. He said, I don’t want to look at life that way. People are not necessarily smarter than you. He told graduates at Stanford this. Don’t assume that everybody’s smarter than you are. Most people do that. Most people assume that other people are hipper, have it together more, smarter, and Jobs was obsessed with persuading people and believing it himself, that nobody out there is any smarter than you, and it’s wrong to think of yourself that way.

It’s wrong to go through life subordinating yourself to others because it’s either the polite thing to do or it’s the proper thing to do for somebody inexperienced. Don’t look at yourself that way. You only got one life. Make it what you want to be. Don’t plug yourself into the formulas… Jobs was always opining against this. Make your own life; write your own formula. Don’t assume everybody’s smarter than you are. They’re not. The world’s made up of people just like you. In fact, you’re probably smarter than a lot of the other people.

Do not put yourself down, was the message. Do not rest on the realization that you can’t make it because there are other people smarter than you. That’s a cop-out, it’s an excuse, and don’t do it. Don’t assume anything, particularly that you’re not as smart as other people, that you’re not as creative, that you’re not as valid. And that’s really what Jobs was talking about. Don’t question your own worth. Don’t question your own validity because of the formulas that society or life has built. This was not a political thing with him. With Jobs it was simply the way life was structured, and he didn’t want to be in a structured life that others had written. He wanted to write his own. Now, that quote from Kutcher, I am dead certain that comes from what he learned about Jobs playing this role. To the extent that the other stuff he believes, I’m not gonna question it; he probably does. But the point is, again, that it — well, it’s important because the people that he said this to — really, one of the things that’s been eating away and bothering me is there hasn’t been this kind of can-do spirit in this country. I mean, outside of this program.

He led into that last quote by saying, “The third thing is something that I just relearned when I was making this movie about Steve Jobs.” That last sound bite is Steve Jobs. By the way, it is great advice. Don’t assume you’re not valid because you think people have done more than you. Don’t assume you’re not valid or qualified because other people are older and more experienced, and don’t assume people are smarter than you are, and don’t fall prey to the structure that other people have made for you. Build a life, don’t live it. And it’s something he fervently believed, and he did.

Now, it’s not something everybody’s gonna be able to do, but it doesn’t matter. The inspiration, the motivation, the idea that it can happen is what inpsires people to start dreaming about. Let’s face it, folks, this is one of the many things that has been missing in this country for four and a half years… I tell you, there’s a sad reality. It’s not just the Democrats on the left that are pessimistic and do not ever have an optimistic can-do message. There aren’t very many Republicans that do, either. Which is another, I mean, gigantic blown opportunity, if you ask me.

When an actor of an age that is similar to the people we’re talking about articulates what you and I not only believe, but know to be true, I’m curious. Now, again, I don’t know Ashton Kutcher, and I’ve never heard him opine on anything before, so I’m not trying to impugn at all. I’m actually trying to thank him and hope this keeps up… It’s entirely possible that Kutcher, exposed to Steve Jobs, playing the role of Jobs in this movie, had to absorb some of this. Maybe this is who he is. I’m not, again, impugning. But I do think that this is important. And it’s one of a series of little things happening out there that have not been happening in the past four and a half years that could signal a turn around of some kind… So kudos to Ashton Kutcher. I’m sure by the time he hears about this I will be the devil incarnate, but regardless, kudos to him.

Full transcript here.

MacDailyNews Take: Regarding every single thing that Ashton Kutcher said on that stage: Mega dittos.

And, yes, we so want to smack each and every brainless screaming banshee in attendance. It may be wrong, but the desire is so very strong.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews readers too numerous to mention individually for the heads up.]

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64 Comments

        1. The fourth, I believe he means.

          Curiously, MDN altered the headline from “Steve Jobs has rubbed off on Ashton Kutcher (with video)” to “Rush Limbaugh: Steve Jobs has greatly influenced Ashton Kutcher (with video)”. I wonder why.

        2. Well of course I meant his current wife. Normally one says ex wife or previous wife to describe people who are no longer married.
          It is interesting however, that you felt your only retort was a specious one.

        3. Nice straw man, but I never said I wasn’t impressed with you.

          More to the point I AM (and have been) impressed with you (and your apparent intellect) and therefore find it even more curious when people like you (i.e. bright) remain “eyes defiantly shut”

        1. As far as I understand she was doing pretty well before she married Rush (she had made millions) I don’t think it likely that with millions in the bank you would marry for money.
          But Grigori, don’t let actual facts pollute the reality you’ve created for yourself.

      1. And before you get all excited and post an insightful “NU UH”, just go back and read any article on any successful woman on this site. Marissa Mayer leaps to mind as someone particularly adept at turning this audience’s brains off.

        1. “NU UH.” 😉

          Unfortunately, your comment misses the MAIN point of the insightful advice of AK at the Teen Choice Awards and the Rush follow up commentary repeating the same themes. Deliberating whether sexy is mentioned is soooo off topic, sideshow and totally meaningless. Where am I wrong?

        2. I stand with AK’s powerful message.

          I stand with Rush emphasizing AK’s message.

          I stand with MDN posting SJ video emphasizing the same themes.

          If I have time left over to WASTE, I’ll sit around idly with C1 laughing at stupid sh*t …

    1. …and what was Rush promoting? I know lots of hard working people who did everything right and got fired and outsourced in a flash while the Corporations made a profit. Unfortunately, in the past I believed there was great opportunity here for those who worked hard. Today it is a riskier business and there is much less guaranteed. It’s true that if you don’t work you get nowhere, but it is also true, that if you work hard today, you still have lower probably of “success” than your parents did. The statistics and facts bear that out. This is not a Democratic issue nor a Republican issue, this is a greed issue. The rich need more and are willing to destroy more lives in order to get it.

      There was a time when there was great shame on a corporation if they had to lay people off. If times where tough, they made less profit because they had a responsibility to the employees and excepted THEIR share of responsibility for the failure of the company to perform. Today, often firing workers IS the way companies increase their profits.

      These facts are real. I hate when CEO’s and the people in power try to blame the worker for this situation. On one side of their mouth they say “Work hard for me and reap the rewards of opportunity” and then on the other side they say “Oh, well, thanks for the hard work, you didn’t really believe my story did you? You’re fired, I can do your job cheaper in (name your country)”.

      The problem isn’t that the kids of today don’t want to work hard, the problem is that they no longer want to work hard for corporations because of a breakdown in trust. They are looking for something they can do on their own, without having to pledge allegiance to some Corp that will sell their souls for a buck.

      This is a long term problem and lots of parents who were fired so a corporation can boost their bottom line are now telling their kids “don’t do what I did”. Find another path. Unfortunately, as parents we don’t know what the better path is, so we now have a generation of kids who don’t want to follow in our footsteps, but have no other path to follow either.

      This is the whole truth. What Rush is promoting is a lie and half truths. Today it is hard work and random ass luck that will get you opportunity, not hard work alone.

      If I were a kid again watching my parents and how the hard work and “random ass luck” worked out for my them, I might also be willing to skip the “hard work” part too.

      We need to teach our children to become self employed, have their own customers, and avoid corporations–only then will hard work pay off! I believe in time, this will happen and rather then corporations downsizing, we will eventually see them “cut down to size”.

      1. In reply to this part: “Today it is hard work and random ass luck that will get you opportunity, not hard work alone.”

        As we say in car racing: “When hard work and preparation meets opportunity—you win.”

        1. You can’t help yourself.

          Any comment that supports a right leaning point of view you immediately shoot down often without facts, more snark and edgy elitism.

          For a change, try commenting on the merits of how articles relate to Apple success.

  1. Kudos to Ashton and Rush much as that might be painful to say and even more painful to hear for some of you. A lot of good sense which doesn’t matter which side of the political spectrum you come from. We hold these truths to be self-evident…

    1. auramac wrote:

      >I saw that picture of fatface Rush and stopped reading.

      The very definition of bigotry, and more proof (as though any intelligent person needed any) that bigotry is not the exclusive province of the Right.

  2. The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become. – Ronald Reagan

    Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence. – Ronald Reagan

    Man is not free unless government is limited. There’s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. – Ronald Reagan

    1. F14T16,

      Your first quote is just plain idiotic. The American Dream is that every person must have the right to become the best that person can make of himself or herself. Hell, a huge fraction of the world does not even believe in “a God”. God (any god) has absolutely nothing to do with the American Dream.

      With regard to the second quote, I don’t believe any sane person, whether they be Democrat or Republican, reactionary, conservative, moderate, liberal or radical, has any problem with this statement as is. The problem is that there are literally thousands of views as to how to implement it and how to reach that goal. There will always need need, as a minimum, for short term support for people in need (e.g., a category 5 hurricane comes through, wipes our your home and your place of work and a huge fraction of the infrastructure — no one, other than the most financially well off people, can survive that situation without help). Thus even if poverty in general can be eliminated (which is a monumental task in and of itself) there will still be a need for support systems. And no, the charities are most often NOT enough to do it all no matter how optimistic about charities we want to get.

      On the third one, Reagan is just wrong. It is absolutely not that black and white. (And as someone with a graduate degree in theoretical physics I can say there is no such thing as anything being as “predictable as a law of physics”. Physics often slaps you across the face and shows you just how NOT obvious or predicatble the world really is!) Sometimes government expansion is necessary. Yes, I’d agree that for the vast majority of situations most governments are far too bloated and inefficient. However, there are exceptions. Anyone not noting those exceptions is a fool.

      I worked with Enron before their collapse. I was able to see internally what they were doing. The vast majority of it was not illegal at the time. However, it should have been. A lot of the internal actions were a legal scam set up to just make it look like things were continuously getting better — and thus get more outside money pouring in. It was a house of cards. A perfectly legal scam. After it fell apart laws changed. New regulatory units were set up to make sure that the exact same thing didn’t happen again. Whas this a proper expansion of government? I’d suggest, yes. However, if you take Reagan’s statement at face value, the answer would be an emphatic, “No!” With new laws and enforcement units did the perpetrators lose any real “liberties” other than ones they should not have had in the first place?

  3. There’s a flip side to the hopelessness of some of today’s youth and that is the attitude of many youth who want it all now, who feel entitled to money, fame, whatever. They watch “Reality TV” and think it’s reality. Make a sex tape, become famous. SJ’s Stanford speech and what Ashton Kutcher said on stage go hand in hand. It’s ok to dream, it’s ok aspire to great things and to be a “Crazy One” but you have to get off your ass first and work and pay your dues. If it means dressing up as Alice in Wonderland characters at a mall for $3/hr. or roofing with your dad, so be it. I’ve learned in life, that as long as I’ve kept working hard and kept going, that paths would open up to greater opportunity and most of the time the paths I ended up on were not the paths I started on. Sometimes the paths were of my own making and sometimes it was a path somebody incredible was already on that they asked me to hop on to share their awesome odyssey. The message is, keep going, keep working, keep plugging away and good things WILL happen.

  4. I posted Kutcher’s video to my FB yesterday. Great to see him use the Teen Choice platform to relay this simple wisdom.

    I might ad that today’s minimum wage, regulations and work rules make it difficult for teenagers to get jobs like sweeping Cheerio dust off the floor. Both the hopelessness and get rich quick attitudes mentioned above result from inability of kids to experience the “work and learn” model that many of us benefited from. I was managing 200 people by age 24. I couldn’t have been in that position had I not worked a couple dozen jobs in the preceding years; starting with the good paper route and lawn mowing. That’s the type of “education” sorely lacking in today’s America.

    1. Paper route. That takes me back. Probably the hardest job I’ve ever had. I,d get up everyday about 4am to fold, pack my bag and deliver papers to 150 customers then go to school.

  5. Why is the stock market down today? Because people like Ashton don’t get it… the little people getting squeezed by the banking fees, high utility rates, fees, more fees, and higher gas and energy prices don’t have discretionary spending because the corporations have their hands in the peoples’ wallets too much.

    Wal-Mart Lowers Outlook as Buyers Stick to Essentials

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/business/wal-mart-lowers-outlook-as-consumers-hold-back.html

    1. You are the one who doesn’t get it.

      Stop blaming others for your failures. Cut out the excuses.

      If you don’t like being a “little person,” don’t be one. The government certainly isn’t going to make you rich (unless you’re a Senator or President).

      There is no such thing as a free lunch.

  6. I’m a moderate, middle-of-the-roader. I read, watch and listen to media from across the political spectrum, and that includes Rush Limbaugh’s radio program 2-3 times per week in the morning. Any reasonably objective person will find Rush not only an intelligent and articulate radio host, but also a totally self-promoting, divisive, name-calling and often mean-spirited bully speaking from an extreme right-wing perspective. Yes, he’s wildly pro-Apple, but MDN includes his commentaries on their website in such a way that both promotes his radio show and strongly endorses his extreme views. I assume they do this for both financial and political reasons, and as I have said before, it greatly detracts from the value of the MDN website. As long as MDN continues this hit-whoring behavior, I will choose to greatly limit my support for this website.

    1. As a moderate, your statement;
      “Any reasonably objective person will find Rush not only an intelligent and articulate radio host, but also a totally self-promoting, divisive, name-calling and often mean-spirited bully speaking from an extreme right-wing perspective.”

      Tells me, beyond a reasonable doubt, that despite your initial assertion that you are a “middle of the roader” you are decidedly not. Moreover I’m reasonably sure you know that and were trying to be cleverly deceptive. (or you are a paragon of self deception)
      Why not just be honest and straightforward.
      You apparently detest Rush, why would you listen to him?

  7. The simple truth is that a Steve Jobs- 2012 edition fresh out of HS- could not do what Steve Jobs- original edition- was able to do in these United States. America has changed greatly in the time between and a bright kid full of moxie from the working class would end up with a very different reality.

    First, our country is much less equal than it was in his youth. The difference between the haves and the rest is vastly wider than it was in Jobs’ youth and the available paths out fewer and steeper climbs.

    Second, our country is far less forgiving now than it once was. I doubt someone with Steve Jobs’ CV could get hired at Apple Retail these days- much less ever land a HW or SW engineering job. ” So you say you dropped out of College”, “So you say you dropped acid”, ” So you say you used to prank AT&T and make illegal long distance calls”. Strikes One, Two and Three. These days mistakes are hung around your neck like the Scarlet Letter.

    Many of our greatest entrepreneurs were oddball types from the working class who didn’t strike Gold until the 3rd, 4th or 5th iteration. Today, lack of conformity will get you marked before you are old enough to ride a bike without training wheels. Make a misstep and end up in detention or jail with a record and no chance at a decent job or a good scholarship- ever.

    The greatest predictor of success in today’s America is being in the lucky sperm club. Who your parents were trumps intellect, drive, ambition, endurance and effort in the overwhelming number of cases. It wasn’t always so.

    Rush, as usual, is wrong and full of bullshit that appeals to people’s bias and not the facts.

    1. MacDailyNews’s Take: “Mega dittos” was in response to Ashton Kutcher. It couldnt be any clearer, How fucking embarrassing for you to be so obviosuly stupid and illiterate.

      1. What the fuck are you talking about? I said nothing of the sort, and why would it even matter? It’s STILL an idiotic Rushism used only by his most deluded minions; I’ve never heard anyone who ISN’T a RL fan use it, other than in sarcastic condemnation. Doesn’t matter if they’re talking about Kutcher, Limbo, or anyone else.

        You know, I understand that RL is a big ol’ Apple fan (among a bunch of big ol’ other things) and that I’ll have to see his bloated countenance here from time to time when he makes one of his fart-filled pronouncements; I accept that. I even get that I’m among the minority here who have only listened to RL a few times (probably about two dozen times, MANY years ago… but that was more than enough). But I’ve always held out hope that MDN posts his garbage just for the hits it creates and to rouse the Rush-faithful. . . because, let’s face it, it’s never NEWS.

        Now I know the sad truth: the folks at MDN are actual card-carrying “Dittoheads” themselves, as I suspect you are as well, “Regular Reader, whoever the fuck you are (why don’t you register?) I didn’t misunderstand anything at all; it’s YOU who are misguided.

  8. MDN cut off responding to the last comment from ChrissyOne.

    She wrote: Monday, August 19, 2013 – 2:05 pm ·

    “Nonsense. You were very brave to take a stand on an internet message board.”

    Nonsense is when you deflect and ignore comments directly articulated your way that do not agree with your POV. Pity. Your pitiful attempt to make me the straw man and fail to address the article itself is out there for everyone to see.

    Respond when you can stay on topic and this sideshi@t is getting old.

  9. You have only one shot at life. You have to live your life in doses you create yourself and doses that are handed to you. For all the winners, there are far more losers. Of 4 children in my family, I am the only one salaried by a company I didn’t create. We all had the same opportunities. We all had the same parents. We all were dealt a different set of cards. Working hard is not always rewarding, working smart is. People are your key to success and if you manage all your relationships productively, you will be alright. But if you are so full if yourself, so inwardly focused that you can’t see how others see you, you will spend your life trying to see why you just can’t win. Make being right a policy, not a merit badge. Do it right first time and on time, you will reap great rewards. Know what you do we’ll but especially know what you don’t do well. And once you realize that the best thing you can do is to keep learning more every day, you will have a great life. It isn’t about making your life about work. It is about making your life work.

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