“The guys over at Tom’s Hardware have gotten their hands on the CPU used inside the new Mac Pro, a 12-core 2.7GHz Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2 processor,” John Brownlee reports for Cult of Mac. “They then built a Windows machine similar to the new Mac Pro in all but physical design, and ran it against a 64-bit version of Geekbench.
“The result? Their tests scored a Geekbench number in excess of 30,000,” Brownlee reports. “None of this makes clear how the Mac Pro will run in real life, of course. It looks, though, as if the CPU at least will be everything you’d expect and more from Apple’s new powerhouse Mac.”
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Nice numbers, but doubt the final CPU will run that fast alone. They’re offloading a lot of the work to the GPU’s, so programs that take advantage of that will scream. I’m guessing there will be an FCPX update in the near future….
Snappissimo!
Yep, like about 10 times as fast as my current MacBook. Better start saving my pennies, eh?
I bet checking twitter will be really snappy.
One interesting note is the cost of the test machine (Newegg prices):
CPU (Intel E5-2697W): $1,934.99 (2697 v2 price unknown, but this is the price of the 2687)
MLB (MSI X79A-GD45 Plus): $249.99
RAM (G.Skill F3-12800CL9Q2-32GBZL): $289.99
HDD (Samsung 840 Pro): $239.99
GPU (GeForce GTX Titan): $999.99 (cheapest one)
PSU (CORSAIR AX860i): $ 229.99
Case (unknown): $??
Total: $3944.94 (w/o case or OS)
That’s the approximate cost to build one outright, let alone what Dell, etc would charge you for something like this. I doubt you’ll be able to get this machine from an PC maker, anyway. Also, keep in mind, with the Mac Pro, you’ll get two custom AMD (according to the picture) GPU’s.
OEM prices are considerably cheaper. Remember NewEgg prices include a hefty markup. Basic volume pricing for the CPUs are typically released by Intel.
Also I’m sure the building of units will be very efficient.
Overall Apple would want margins to be around 70%+ for parts and labor so component costs would need to be 25% or less of the sales price.
Apple is profitable but not that profitable per unit. The profit margin is probably closer to 30% but as this will be a low volume product if the margin is smaller it will have little effect on the bottom line.
Apple will get much better pricing from Intel and other component suppliers.
and keep in mind Apple plans on building it in the US so that will add to the cost. Clearly it won’t cost $3800 at a base config but everyone is stupid if they think it will start at the usual $2499 that has seemed to be the standard for the Mac Pro over the years. Apple won’t be buying these CPU’s en mass from Intel in the same capacity they do with the iSeries processors for iMacs and laptops so it will keep the cost high to the consumer. I will say $2999 is as low as they will go when they announce the details.
People keep saying that, but the design is simple and assembly ought to be mostly automated and fairly efficient. Apple has been pushing Foxconn to automated assembly, so i would expect a flagship robotic assembly facility for the Mac Pro. I seriously doubt that labor costs will be a significant driver of the sales price.
I agree (sort of)
I agree but I think you may actually be under estimating.
Your CPU is likely close (IMHO) but you are severely under on GPU, given the 7 Terraflop spec it is likely they are using DUAL W800’s (fire pro’s) which would be $1k to $1.5K per GPU
This would bring the total to $3-$4K for just the CPU and GPU’s (without Case, RAM, VRAM, Drive, PS…)
I just don’t see this thing being cheap.
Worth it for workstation users, You bet, cheap no.
thanks wzinc!
Apple insists on very fat profit margins — fatter than NewEgg. Besides, for those who don’t know, Apple doesn’t use cost-plus pricing. It sets prices based on what it thinks the market will bear, which are almost always undercut by scrappier (albeit techincally inferior) competition.
It would be logical for the Mac Pro to start in pricing a little below where the all-in-one iMac ends. On the US Apple store, that is $3849.
Today’s Mac Pro with 2×3.06 GHz Xeons, 64 GB RAM, single 512GB SSD, and dual HD5770 GPUs runs $8999. I predict a maxed-out new Mac Pro will not likely cost any more than that because of simpler constriction and fewer options.
To me, this is a poor choice on Apple’s part. Why wouldn’t Apple offer a machine that well-heeled buyers could really max out? Apple seems to be abandoning the lucrative build-to-order business.
I’m hoping Apple can keep it under 5k for the base configuration, but not terribly confident about that. But I guess that’s what makes it a Pro machine, right? If you can make more money faster with it, it justifies the price.
Many people are saying that the Mac Pro will be too expensive and won’t sell in very large numbers. Those 12-core Intel chips are extremely expensive, so I suppose it’s to be expected. I think I’d also heard someone complaining that the Mac Pro should have been built to hold two of those processors. Wow! It’s hard to please people.
A current Mac Pro can be optioned over $10k in price, so any people who act surprised at the price of professional machines are clearly not up to speed. As I pointed out in a prior post, however, It makes little sense for Apple to limit its BTO options. If people want 24 core processing, or drawers for multiple internal SSDs, then why wouldn’t Apple offer it to them?
Many people were asking for a mid-size “prosumer” tower, but NOBODY asked for the Mac Pro to be shrunk and its configuration/versatility neutered — or, if you buy into the Thunderbolt hype — Apple giving away the profit of internals to other peripheral makers.
Thanks for the long overdue performance bump, Apple, but your cylindrical Mac Pro’s success in the marketplace is definitely not assured.
Wow! I really can’t wait to get one!
Glorified Cube. I have the carcass of a cube to hold my asswipe, and am buying to coming Mac Pro to hover over to do my dumps. Because its black, the skid marks wont show so much … nice piece of design work Jobs.
Its a piece of shit.
Suffering from prenatal anoxia?
Would love to replace my Mac Pro with the new one when it comes out. I think it will be way out of my price range though.