“In a pair of 5-4 decisions, the Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled in favor of same-sex couples in two major cases, effectively allowing federal benefits for gay couples and clearing the way for same-sex marriages in the state of California,” Mike Isaac reports for AllThingsD.
“One ruling overturned the Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, the bill passed in 1996 that ruled same-sex marriages unconstitutional,” Isaac reports. “The other decision left intact a lower-court ruling that invalidated California’s Prop. 8 ban on same-sex marriage.”
Isaac reports, “‘Apple strongly supports marriage equality and we consider it a civil rights issue. We applaud the Supreme Court for its decisions today,’ an Apple spokesman told AllThingsD in a statement… Apple, in particular, has traditionally stood against inequality, having long offered health benefits to same-sex couples employed by Apple, and publicly donating to the ‘No on Prop 8’ campaign in 2008.”
Read more in the full article here.
Related articles:
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National Organization for Marriage to Steve Jobs: You’ve become Big Brother (with video) – December 17, 2010
Christian Group asks Apple to reinstate pulled ‘Manhattan Declaration’ iPhone app – November 30, 2010
California’s ‘No on 8’ same-sex marriage campaign models ads on Apple’s ‘Get a Mac’ commercials – November 01, 2008
Apple donates $100,000 to fight same-sex marriage ban in California (Proposition 8) – October 24, 2008
Pedophiles rejoice! You’re the next deviants in line – if the polygamists or the zoophiles don’t beat you to it.
Well that didn’t take long.
LOL ikr.. here we go again.
Yeah, right. You’re “married.” Whatever you say.
@ AID: Tolerance is the mark of an enlightened mind. If you agree that:
1) all humans should be afforded the same freedoms and treatement by their government, and
2) it is a semantic argument whether the word “marriage” or “civil union” is used to refer to the government-determined rights and benefits,
then your only resulting step toward a calm mature life is to accept that others may choose to live differently than you. And that’s okay, because it doesn’t harm you in the slightest.
This message is brought to you by a straight guy who should know better than to advise extreme social conservatives to “turn the other cheek”. They might take it literally, as they seem to everything else.
Mike, I agree with every thing you say but with his crowd you are pushing a rope. You can’t fix stupid.
Hercules cast the rope into a stream, whence it froze. At that, he was able to push the rope (as now became a staff) at the serpent, and fling it away.
A 1911 with a full clip is easier. But certainly not as dramatic. Or poetic.
Nice!
A bullet pass to a tight end in traffic is also referred to, I believe, as a rope. Poetry in motion.
Well, twodales, if anyone knows stupid, it’s you from waking up with it all your life.
Bazinga!
Clever come back. Useless as usual.
Well, ever-pithy twodales, if anyone recognizes ‘useless…’
Bazinga bazinga!!
handsomesmitty,
If your profile pic is true, I would love to hook up with you!
Wait, that rhymes! I’m a poet and I didn’t even know it! 🙂
North American Man/Boy Love Association here.
Where do we sign up?
The age of consent puts pedophiles in an unstable position of being in a second-tier marriage. The differentiation demeans the couple, whose moral and sexual choices the Constitution protects, and whose relationship the state has sought to dignify.
C1 glad to know your still around. I miss your thoughts.
I won’t waste them here.
Don’t.
Nope.
Deviants doesn’t mean what you think it means. But, congratulations on sticking to the wrong side of morality, logic, and history. Views like yours are fortunately dying out as the worthless bits of historic flotsam that they are.
“The age of consent puts pedophiles in an unstable position of being in a second-tier marriage. The differentiation demeans the couple, whose moral and sexual choices the Constitution protects, and whose relationship the state has sought to dignify.”
We want ours NOW!
And what does this have to do with two ADULTS choosing their partners? Pedophile does NOT equal gay, now matter how many bigots think or spout otherwise.
Agreed. Minors lack the emotional and psychological maturity to enter into “adult relationships” or marriage contracts. Any relationship between an adult and a child is inherently unbalanced, predatory, and exploitative in nature. Pedophiles do not love children, they use them.
Two adults should be allowed to do whatever they bloody well please, with whoever they bloody well please. But children should always be protected from the predations of pedophiles.
And, of course, the vast, vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual.
Actually, your statement depends on how define ‘pedophile.’ If, like the various psychiatric organizations have done with homosexuality, you redefine pedophilia is based on chemical/physical behavior and is the natural expression of genetics and not a mental disorder or controllable behavior (since such behavior is a ‘natural’ genetic expression), then homosexuals then yes, heterosexuals outnumber pedophiles. Saying it’s not pedophilia because it’s same sexes hooking up is, well, cheating. But, since the adults have left the building, you silly little children can call butter popcorn if you so choose.
The argument is based on the idea that certain behaviors can be proscribed based on the concept of consent. This was problematic for gays many years ago when the orientation was categorized as a mental illness and the person could not legally consent.
NAMBLA is suggesting that the slow march from mental illness to legally recognized sexual orientation might be replicated by pedophiles.
I think this is unlikely because one half of such a couple will always be considered too young to consent. The same goes for zoophiles. We simply have no way of determining the consent of the animal. Ramda the love goat will likely always be considered a victim.
Gay marriage was a foregone conclusion once it was homosexuality was removed as a pathology from the DSM.
You comment is moronic.
*Your
..shame that Degenerate’s parents weren’t homosexual.
I’d say you deserve the same, but then I’d be implying that you should have hateful, bigoted brainless gay parents and that would be an insult to the gays and lesbians I know.
well, I was referring to the fact that she’s not funny…what did you mean?
Wishing Ellen’s parents were homosexual is a way of saying she’s not funny? Your comment is moronic.
you’re not funny either.
Your actions as a moron, stemming from intolerance, and your convenience of being able to talk about something you have no clue on, shouldn’t be considered funny. Your comment is moronic and hateful.
hey, don’t be a hating hater. thanks.
Oh dear, mind me. I love hating you 😀
’cause you’re one of those hating haters.
I DO love hating hate.
I was just trying to reach out to you, but you have chosen the path of a bully. Remember, Correctu, we are the world, we are the children. We are the ones who make a brighter day so let’s start giving. There’s a choice we’re making, we’re saving our own lives. It’s true we’ll make a better day just you and me…just you and me, Correctu…just you and me.
What he meant, correctu—and botvinnik can correct me if I’m wrong—is that, if they had been homosexual, they would not have become Ellen’s, or anyone else’s, parents. Ellen would not then exist to bother or disgust us. Get it?
I love taking the fun out of a joke by explaining it, even if I’m wrong, and even if the joke isn’t funny.
oh, you mean you have to be opposite genders in order to have progeny? man, this is news to me..musta slept through that part in biology class.
LOL! Thanks Hannah for the perspective 🙂
Botvinnik, you missed the part of “class” entirely.
correctu, please stop your hating. you are a bully.
Go marry a goat.
gee, you’re proposing right here in the MDN comments section? Well, I’m flattered, but I could never betroth a bully goat hating-hater.
Botvinnik is a lost cause. He just loves the attention his comments engender. His level of sophistication approximates that of a two-year old child, albeit with a slightly broader vocabulary. Your best bet is to simply ignore him.
@KingMel
botvinnik is a merry minstrel of mirth compared to certain others hereabouts, and his truncheon of bemusement is that of a laughing demigod. I think Oscar Wilde said that.
This is going to be he most depressing thread on this web site ever.
Yup.
Only because homophobia has edged out racism as an accepted form of malignant social interaction.
Jane, you ignorant slut, you forgot sexism.
Yankees fans f**k goats. It’s a fact. But the rest of us are happy because it means they don’t breed.
lol, goats? goats?…GOATS? sheesh. You’re “kidding.”
Usually so hard line…what’s with the kid gloves today?
you just HAD to butt in with your nanny state comment.
You do know that roughly 90% of convicted pedophiles identify themselves as heterosexual, don’t you? Oh, wait … my bad. That would mean you’d have to understand what you are reading instead of guessing that what you are looking at says what YOU think it says.
So, with some 2% of the population being homosexual, shouldn’t 98% of pedophiles be heterosexual? But, no, according to you, that’s not the case. So, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles is alarmingly high versus the non-pedophile population.
Try at least 10% being gay, not to mention the vast percentage that are actively bisexual. Sexuality is not black and white, but every shade from completely heterosexual to completely homosexual.
Having sex with children and animals is RAPE. They can’t give conceit. Adults can. It’s not hard to understand.
Does this mean I’ll have to give Lassie her ring back?
Only after you smoke a big doobie with her.
Raping animals? Well assuming that you are correct, that sex with animals is rape, then I am a MURDERER because I had bacon this morning.
Personally while I think sex with animals is gross, I think it’s silly to classify it as rape.
Dear Clowns,
Gay marriage has been legal in Canada for ten years. Polygamy and bestiality are still illegal and have zero societal support.
But thanks for being our clowns and making us laugh.
Sincerely,
The Sane
What’s the justification to make polygamy illegal and gay ‘marriage’ legal. How does that make any moral or logical sense whatsoever?
Do you really want me to explain? I can, It’s very obvious and very easy to explain – but I get the feeling you already know and you are just trying to be jerk. Let me know if you actually want to understand.
“Do you really want me to explain?”
Please.
Amen!
This is more proof this country is in decline.
most pedophiles are straight, not gay, you should know that…
and what are you doing here anyway? You most surely belong to those who say Macs are for gays, fags, girls, blacks, etc.
Get the hell out of here and go back to your middle age ku klux klan and rejoice in your “straightness”. Why is the world full of this shit-for-brains-people?
We are talking about recognising consenting adults in loving relationships, not willful exploitation by predators of defenceless children who cannot provide consent.
Don’t try and confuse these two very different things because they have absolutely nothing in common.
Don’t hold your breath Stuart. Confusion is their default setting.
No, certitude is their default setting. We both understand that reason itself involves no specific context-based “settings” beyond the required support for instinctual herd and self-preservation instincts.
So much for intelligent management:
Some people have said that I shouldn’t get involved politically because probably half our customers are Republicans… But I do point out that there are more Democrats than Mac users, so I’m going to just stay away from all that political stuff. – Apple CEO Steve Jobs, August 2004
Here’s an idea: Worry about running the company, Aunt Timmy, before you’re out on your ass.
There’s no pride, gay or otherwise, in halving the price of AAPL in under a year.
“There’s no pride, gay or otherwise, in halving the price of AAPL in under a year.”
Ain’t that the GD truth!
How long will Auntie Tim last at this rate?
All right! hope supreme court gets around to us polygamists this summer, the girls are getting impatient about those government benefits.
You need liberals to take up the cause of the persecuted polygamist class first.
dang.
From Utah ?
Nope, California actually.
To be fair, any number of consenting adults should have right to get marry, 1.3 billion Muslims, where one husband has the right to have up to four wives, too.
damn right! Allah be praised!
Fire that Apple spokesman. Taking sides in controversial social issues has NOTHING to do with Apple. It merely inflames the passions of selective portions of their potential customers. This is a Microsoft type of gaff.
What business is it of government in the first place to go around deciding just what constitutes the HOLY state of matrimony? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?
There is no such thing as ‘separation of church and state’. Read the constitution or any of our founding documents, not in there. Please don’t tell me it’s implied either, the only implied separation was and is supposed to be to keep the government out of the church, not the other way around. Most Americans today are completely clueless as to the history of America.
What business is it of the gubermints to change the definition of a 4000 yr old institution either?
1st Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
Suggested reading: http://amzn.to/19lPeb9
Actually that has nothing to do with the “separation of church and state”, not in the sense that the phrase has been used for the last 50 years.
That 4,000 year old definition, as you put it, was at one time or another polygamous, included men marrying their slaves, their rape victims, and the wives of men they’d killed. The wife was the property of the man, and there was no divorce, ever. It was for life, even if that meant both (or all) parties within the marriage were so miserable they’d commit suicide to get out of it.
ALL of the above has changed in marriage during these 4,000 years you are thinking of.
Same-sex marriage, in comparison, is a small change. As for the so called redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples, it’s already happened. It happened back in 2001 in the Netherlands. Everything since then has just been other places playing catch up.
Holy Matrimony and Marriage are two separate concepts. One belongs to religion, the other to society as a whole.
And society, whether you like it or not, includes same-sex couples.
The push towards equality continues.
Big deal. The government shouldn’t have been in the marriage business anyway!
It’s only because the government put their nose into marriage and associated tax benefits that this whole issue arose in the first place.
Flat tax for all and keep out of our personal lives.
There’s a bit more than taxes involved, like who gets to visit you in the hospital, who gets your stuff when you die, etc. Right now a blood family member can stop an unmarried gay partner from even seeing their incapacitated loved one. It’s issues like these that swing the big stick for me on marriage equality.
But I agree, taxes and benefits should fall equally on all, with no special deals for marriage status. Those laws need to get fixed under any circumstance.
Apple lauds? Apple lauds?!! Apple lauds?!!!! R u telling me EVERYONE at Apple supports same-sex marriage? No! They don’t! Probably at least 50%! But what does Apple do? It speaks with a single, united voice discounting half it’s employees and shareholders who believe this is one the most despicable acts of moral decline in history! Our taxes now subsidize abortion, sodomy and soon 11,000,000 illegal immigrants! Goodby America! Goodbye Apple! Your respective leaders don’t care who they offend as long as their self-serving agendas r realized! Bring on polygamy! Bring on legalizing prostitution and drugs! It’s over folks, and Tim Cook is rejoicing! You’ll soon know why if u don’t know already! Another dark day in America and at Apple!
Remember the good ole days when our taxes only subsidized murdering innocents in the third world and stealing land from native Americans? Boy. Times are sure a changing.
you’re living on “stolen native American land.” guess, it doesn’t offend you that much, huh?
hypocrisy |hiˈpäkrisē|
noun ( pl. hypocrisies )
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one’s own behavior does not conform; pretense.
Nothing stolen about it. English and then American blood was shed to possess it. There is a difference, even if you don’t agree with the action.
I personally can’t condone what it took to found the country. I wouldn’t change a thing.
okay children, time to get out our “Techniques Of Revisionist History” primers…
Nothing revised, just simple perspective. Nobody “owns” land, you idiot. It’s only through blood, courage and war that you stand upon it as an American, if you can even call yourself one.
hmm, that should be an interesting concept to descendants of The Trail Of Tears…I’ll pass your profound wisdom on to the reservation. Thanks.
@ ckh: then do please let us know your address. Our gang would like to reposess your property. …because we can, and we’re not afraid to use violence to get it.
Native Americans had a very fluid understanding of land ownership, but for better or worse, old British land law is what the USA adopted. Add to that the greed to dominate all natural resources, and it was clear that the two world views would mix like oil and water.
Funny thing is, if it wasn’t for disease and the naive belief that European settlers were all primarily peaceful, Native Americans probably would have held onto their continent for many decades longer. There were simply too few Crazy Horses on the eastern seaboard.
As they say in Texas, “well, we all have weapons”
I also like how you don’t say “tribe”, but gang, as in “Occupy”.
You are about as Native American as I am.
My point is that there isn’t a place on Earth that wasn’t inhabited and then railroaded by other groups. It’s life, get over it. Native American understanding of the ways of the world were very narrow and geographically based.
It’s only through a civil society, a strong military and diligence that this can be avoided. All things that the Socialist left doesn’t believe in. So it’s ironic that you cry foul for Native Americans, but you promote an environment that invites the downfall of America.
Though, as an Englishman, I’d love to take all the credit, I am forced to admit other Europeans were involved as well.
Strange though that the posts that attract most comment today have very little to do with tech, and very much to do with “conservatives” vs. “liberal”.
First off, as a straight man, who actually does share doubts over whether same-sex marriages can ever be “valid” religiously or culturally, I will defend with my life the right of homosexuals to campaign for, and win, legal equality and all the rights that come with marriage. I hope that my own state will eventually follow those pioneering states in the US that have legalised gay marriage.
Secondly (and off topic I know), correct me if I’m wrong but it seems from my distant point of view, that the loudest voices calling this chap Snowden a traitor are the same ones that call for an end to big government. And I find that strange.
Now, developers, how is that iOS 7 coming along? I can’t wait.
So where will you get your next computer or phone? Both Google and MS are publicly pro gay rights.
Well there are these things called land lines… I think they’ve been around for… oh, a hundred or so years. How soon we forget. And there’s Linux. Quite a few computers running on that, as I recall.
iMaki, if only you worked in an environment surrounded by highly intelligent people, you’d understand that WAY more than 50% of Apple employees support the end of this injustice.
But I guess there’s no chance of that, huh?
Very unlikely but certainly those that oppose it have been effectively bullied into silence.
And Republican wonder why they are losing elections. They have become the party of hate.
Not all Republicans oppose gay marriage. Just like, not all Democrats are Socialists who want to destroy the country. Enough of you do to disgust the rest of us.
How do you figure that?
The fifth and deciding vote in this case was cast by Justice Anthony Kennedy who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan, a Republican of some distinction, in 1988.
ya mean that republican bastard that appointed the first female supreme court justice too?!?!
You really are a card carrying Socialist statist aren’t you. Anyone who would hate Ronald Reagan, can only be anti-American, Anti-Constitution, anti-democracy, anti-republic.
For better or worse, at least he believed in this country and did what he could to make it better. What can you say about any of your self-indulgent Presidents?
For the record, I don’t hate the left the way the left hates the right. I just won’t tolerate the nonsense that you spew.
Perhaps if you owned anything, and stood for something, you would have a reasonable perspective.
He’s being sarcastic and cute… botvinnik has pics of Ronnie over his bed, probably same as you do.
are you drunk?
Yes, First 2010, Then 2012: Ronnie is quite distinguished. . . among imbeciles who managed to make careers in politics, he is without peer.
He is part of the Photoplay triumvirate of Ronald Reagan, George Murphy, and Shirley Temple Black, to be outdone only by Austrian bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Don’t forget the Party of Dumb.
And to First 2010, Then 2012 (CHOKE!), Ronald Reagan supported so many stances you’d now consider “extremely liberal” that you no longer get to invoke his name or actions as “Republican” without qualifying it by saying you wouldn’t even consider voting for him if he were alive and running for office today.
As citizen of the U.S.A., what’s left of it, you don’t get to tell me WTF I’m allowed to do.
Ha. . . the TRUTH about Bonzo hurts, doesn’t it, F10T12?
you don’t agree Reagan was right to appoint the first female supreme court justice? you are obviously a misogynist and a hater.
This was a reply to F10T12’s little hissy fit reply to Whistle, as any reasonably intelligent person can see. You obviously need glasses and a serious attitude adjustment.
Both of you calm down…when anyone works the word “obviously” into his sentences, it’s a sign that the issue is far from obvious, and deeply coloured by proud bias.
why don’t me and you meet and I’ll be happy to pour a 55 gallon drum of whoopass on your head?
Ah violence. . . the first refuge of the clueless.
bring it bitch, be two hits thrown…I’d hit you then you’d hit the ground.
When you can’t use your brain, use your fists, eh, botty?
Friday. After school. Behind the band room. Be there, bitch. (and don’t bring your sister this time.)
No, SCOTUS reserves that privilege for itself. 🙂
Apple’s on the right side of morality and history, but there is a corporate motivation to making public statements like this. Apple would be losing a lot of potentially brilliant employees if they alienated gay people. Nearly 4% of Americans are gay and over 50% support equal rights for married couples. Given how common and institutional homophobia still is in America, it’s necessary for corporations to publicly support equality if they want gay people feel safe working for them.
Any major company that doesn’t publicly affirm equal rights is at a significant disadvantage attracting talented employees.
Apple is in the business of making computing hardware & software, which has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation whatsoever. There is no need for the company to cowtow to a 4% minority, it’s just Tim’s personal mission. Like all CEOs, he is wasting company resources for his personal purposes. Tim should be supporting and recruiting the 4% smartest computer science graduates, not the glee club twits who demand special attention.
Please define “right side of morality and history”. That quaint notion seems to bend to the point of view of whoever is talking – as always, the winner writes the history books.
The Supreme Court offered a very good ruling, I agree. However, it is long past time that the extreme vocal minority lose the media megaphone. Most open-minded people fight for equal rights, NOT for special attention to extreme minorities. Refusing to endorse or condone a lifestyle that, at its core, is not sustainable nor historically popular, is not homophobia, The attitude of most is simply to correctly identify the reality that gay/les activists have taken their cause WAY too far into popular culture. Keep your private functions in the bedroom, please.
Mike,
For many years I had thought the same way. I had nothing against homosexuality itself, but I always felt that there is disproportionately high exposure to the cause, when compared to the actual share in the population.
Then I realised that one thing had nothing to do with the other. Because you (and I) had this perception that the gay movement had disproportionately high exposure, I had believed that they were demanding more than their fair share. But upon closer examination, it is very clear that never did the gay movement demand some “affirmative-action” of their own (forcing proportionate representation of gays in school admission, government jobs or whatever else). All they asked for was equality in civil rights. To be able to do what others can, and not to be discriminated based on non-relevant qualities. So, as annoying as it can sometimes be when a rather small percentage of population has such loud voice, you will see how that voice will quickly fade once there is no reason to yell.
wanna bet?
Talk about spot on!
The vocal minority has the majority of the media (liberal) megaphone and they will use it.
Next up, why can’t a gay couple be married in the Catholic Church and on and on …
You need a history lesson: this was also important to Jobs.
http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2008/10/24/apple-donates-100000-to-fight-prop-8/
Why can’t Apple just be apolitical…
Well, most people working at Apple are passionate. They are passionate about their work, but they are apparently also passionate about their beliefs.
As gcaptain5 said, in addition to being morally correct and on the side of history, it is clearly good for business, since majority of American population seems to be on the same side regarding the marriage equality issue.
What fascinates me as a foreigner of some life experience is how the reactions to the events of today very closely parallel those of Brown v. Board of Education, or Loving vs. Virginia. In both cases, conservative part of the population was up in arms against what they thought was an attack on their values, way of life and the America that they knew. Curiously enough, at the time, the Republicans were the liberal ones, and Democrats conservatives…
Ten years from now, vast majority of Americans will likely think nothing of the marriage equality issue, and marriage will be legal for all people in all American states.
And I am pretty certain that there will be no increase in divorce rates, no increase in the percentage of the population who are homosexual, or any other “alarming” change in the society as a consequence of this.
Someone wrote it this way the other day:
The guy in front of me has ordered roast beef sandwich with strawberries. How is his awkward choice going to affect the quality and my enjoyment of my own ham and cheese sandwich?
I’m always fascinated by the fact that non-Americans present the most level-headed, cogent arguments on MDN.
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Or, in simple words:
How is my own (heterosexual) marriage going to be affected, now that my colleague can marry his long-time partner?
The most vocal of the “marriage protection’ people tend to live in the societies where many don’t even know anyone who is gay (or aren’t aware of any gay people). So, in their cases, there is high likelihood that in their lives, they may never even encounter a married gay couple. So, how could their own marriages possibly be affected by the fact that someone, somewhere else, can now marry their partner?
This just in…
http://www.informationweek.com/global-cio/recruiting/tech-companies-embrace-marriage-equality/240157387
I guess that’s why appl stock is so low. Tim is busy with other affairs.
Classless.
If you want the best and the brightest in tech you had better have the same opinion Apple has for years (this ain’t nothing new). Being apolitical in this area would tie on hand behind your back. Coming out against gay rights would bury you.
While the general public may be divided the tech community is not. Being anti-gay there is about the same as being a Klan member. There are just way to many very well respected gay people in the industry. And if the conservatives don’t like it? tough it’s their fault. In the early days of the computer industry greedy corporate types hired all the homosexuals they could thinking they could work them longer if they didn’t have families to go home to. Now those people are the respected creators of the industry and can no longer be vilified or ignored.
I’ve nothing against Gay Marriage etc. but I wish apple would ALSO concentrate doing OTHER PR stuff like.. PROTECTING ITS BUSINESS
Do some PR against the nonsense articles bashing apple in the WSJ, NYT, Forbes etc., i.e POINT OUT THE TRUTH THAT APPLE IS NOT DYING.
Apple stock is sinking under 400, the P.E is like HALF the S&P average (i.e that shows the PERCEPTION of apple is BAD, that it is sinking ship). Perhaps apple PR can ALSO besides gay marriage try to do it’s PRIMARY function, i.e protect the SALES and CONSUMER IMAGE of APPLE?
the press thinks that apple is s a sinking ship full of holes, that’s its sales are tanking, for example today WSJ journal is running b.s articles about google’s enterprise value being higher (which it is) but bending it so that sounds like “it’s another evidence that apple is dying”. perhaps besides Gay Marriage apple P.R can be woken from their naps and do something about the b.s being spewed about apple failing all over?
PR dept. should run press releases to counter the major b.s articles coming out.
by the way perhaps apple can also spend a little bit of time running ads to sell their:
— iMacs, (new imacs since last fall but not one single mac ad), what the heck happened to selling macs (when iPhone sales are down due to people waiting for the 5S refresh? ) Apple used to Run DOZENS of mac ads (like Mac Pc guy) but against a turd like win 8… zero ads. (Windows Still makes billions and mac still has 5% world market share vs 20% iPhone). So Apple PR and Advertising DO SOMETHING besides talking gay marriage…
— to sell OS X
— to sell iPods
— sell mac mins ( i have NEVER seen a mac mini ad anywhere not even cheap press ads)
etc.
So some sales apple and get your stock P.E up… Before the big azz hole shareholders like Einhorn (who together own 70% of apple stock) gang up to vote to replace Cook, ive etc (like they REPLACED JOBS) with a ballmer clone…
WAKE UP APPLE P.R , APPLE ADVERTISING, WAKE UP WAKE UP….
exactly. this is why i sold apple shares. they are an profit making enterprise. focus on that. im so happy i sold my stock around $700.
It’s interesting to rank today’s topic threads by the number of comments. . . REALLY says a lot about the MDN readership:
Apple lauds U.S. Supreme Court rulings on gay marriage 93
Steve Wozniak: NSA leaker Edward Snowden ‘is a hero because this came from his heart’ 69
Google passes Apple in enterprise value 26
What’s new in OS X 10.9 Mavericks’ Mail 7.0 24
Apple iOS 7′s design secret: Unleashing innovation 19
How long before Apple dumps Intel from MacBook Air? 17
IDC: Apple iPhone sales dropped 11% in Western Europe as mobile phone market declined in Q113 16
Apple closes below $400, down 43.5% from September high 16
Brian Hogan tells story of finding and selling Apple’s iPhone 4 prototype on Gourmet Haus Staudt’s bar 9
Apple urges Obama’s U.S. Trade Rep. to toss iPhone, iPad import ban won by Samsung 7
Apple sharpens focus on education market with iOS 7 improvements 6
Apple website touts iOS 7 enterprise additions for business customers 5
JetBlue latest airline to replace bulky paper manuals with Apple iPad-based Electronic Flight Bags 2
First look: Apple’s iOS 7 on iPad delivers useful and functional enhancements 2
No rest for the weary: How Apple and Google ruined developers’ summer vacation 1
Hon Hai in no hurry to finalize Sharp deal 0
What it says about MDN readers is open to interpretation. Your list is, however, suggestive, even typical. A political twist to the headline will attract readers more interested in honing their demagoguery skills on a hapless tech audience, and it will also awaken simmering resentments of tech workers who see a chance to sound off. Then, as the postings accumulate to form a debate, the number of replies and counter-replies multiplies. Page views also increase, and concomitantly, ad clicks result in website income. It’s all good, and no harm done, except for those unduly influenced by conclusions drawn on spurious and poisoned statistics like these. Present company excluded, of course. 🙂
Ha!
Intolerant of the intolerant…isn’t that the whole pot/kettle/black conundrum? Ouch, just blew my own mind!
Would that be classed as being caught in a loop?
In a secular democracy, marriage is a civil act, a civil institution, which can be performed in a religious setting if and only if one chooses.
People who argue that marriage is a religious institution don’t seem to be arguing that atheists should not be allowed to marry. Surely if you are being consistent then this is the line you must also take.
It’s still a product of unbelief in God’s way. If it’s against God’s way I’m against it as well. That doesn’t make me any better than them. I’m just a sinner saved by grace.
Great, that works for you. However, the extent of that belief’s sphere of control ends roughly half a centimetre outside of your own skull. Others have different paths to follow.
Live your life your way. Let others do the same. As long as nobody is getting hurt or abused what’s the issue?
If u want to live in a country where religion is rule of law, then move to Afghanistan
Which god is that anyway? The only way I’m different than you is that I believe in one less god than you do- because I’m quite sure you’re not talking about Zeus, or Baal, or Shiva, or any of the other thousands of gods mankind has invented over the course of its evolution.
I have zero problems with gays getting married. What I can’t get over and I’m sure many straight guys feels this way is when gay men display their affections to each other. I know it’s love for each other in every way a man and woman can display love and affection. Still, when I see gay friends and family members at it I get kinda sick to my stomach. I always look away. I always apologize and they are understanding. I think most straight men feel this way, so guys society needs some time to adjust. Perhaps a little discretion publicly is a good for us all for the time being. Funny thing is why are we turned on seeing two hot lesbians going at it? lol
You’ll get over it. If not, at least you understand how stupid it is.
Companies should not voice political opinion. When they do they in a sense speak for all the employes. They should keep quite and let everyone have their own personal opinion. I’m not saying this as for against this ruling. In opposed to companies endorsing presidential candidates too and more.
the stock will sink further, no legislation
will change that.