Comments on: Apple OS X 10.9 Lynx looms as visits by testers increase

By: Gerry Attrick

Gerry Attrick — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:45:43 +0000

Agree! Finder copy is horrible. Mail is worse with well-documented formatting issues for HTML email. Apple – get your shit together!

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:30:41 +0000

I am great! Why aren’t you?

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:25:46 +0000

So you wouldn’t just be using Siri on your iPhone in the first place, seeing as it is far more portable and has a noise-canceling microphone, because WHY?

Or are you talking about some method of Siri on your Mac sending directions to an Android/Windows/Blackberry phone? How would that be done?

This must be Bad Logic Week or something.

By: Wow Tech

Wow Tech — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:38:11 +0000

Boo hiss.

A new cat means Apple will abandon another generation of computers, thus inflating its sales of new ones.

By: Jim W

Jim W — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:43:51 +0000

I agree. These constant OS updates make it very difficult for third party software and hardware developers to keep up. By the time they do there is another OSX to deal with. Plus the hassle to users. Slow down a bit Apple and get some of the bugs out first, like Finder copies.

By: kingmel

kingmel — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:25:27 +0000

Yeah…all of that “blethering” is getting to me, too. It is tough to be so damn great. /s

By: kingmel

kingmel — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:22:07 +0000

I have long been an advocate of incorporating cellular data capabilities in Mac laptops. But it should be pointed out that laptops have enough onboard storage space to hold extensive map databases without the need to stream the data from a server. That approach would not enable real-time updates and information (or advertisements), but it would be fully functional in terms of navigation. The stand-alone Garmin and TomTom GPS units work fine with stored maps.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:21:58 +0000

Umm.. You know Mountain Lion will run on my old 2007 MBP that is now 6 years old. Not too bad if you ask me.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:20:26 +0000

Ok..
A) You shouldn’t be dictating to your mac while driving..

B) Maps for OS X will be great for when you are at your desk and want to get directions that will get sent to your phone. You don’t need GPS since you shouldn’t be using your laptop in the freakin car.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:41:45 +0000

AND your lithium pills! Don’t hide them under your tongue. I can tell.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:40:18 +0000

Excellent point. That is possible now via USB cellular keys. It would be interesting if Apple built cellular into laptops. I suspect that with time cellular will be in everything. But we have to get actual 4G standard tech and networks going first. I read today that the very first actual 4G network will be available in New Zealand in December of this year (2013). Beats me why it’s taking so long. The (actual) 4G standard was finished in 2008.

By: TheWatchfulOne

TheWatchfulOne — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:44:56 +0000

The GPS signal only carries coordinate data. These new MacBooks would have to include built-in celular radios and you would have to subscribe to a data plan in order to stream map data.

By: Speedplay

Speedplay — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:47:54 +0000

Gee whiz! The possibility of a “new” Mac OS! So, here’s the question: How many recent, i.e., new, Mac computers will it run on? Apple has managed to use the Microsoft-itis OS philosophy with its recent releases of new OSs: Build a new OS that will require only the newest processors, thereby eliminating a host of “older” – i.e., two years old – Macs to drive up profits; and, write the new OS code so that there is a guarantee that older computers won’t run it. The over-view presented in the article leaves the impression that the newest OS will be designed more for the iPhone, Captain Crook’s passionate obsession, than for the Mac itself. Question: Where is the compelling reason to upgrade to a new OS when Apple has nearly abandoned software development?: four year old iWork, two year old iLife – not to mention its decreasing quality! And how’s it going with software developers who will now have to re-write code for a new OS replacing one that is barely pushing a year old? Anyone seen any really good software programs for the Mac lately? Read the comments of software users who buy the limited software for the App Store: Most of the programs are pure garbage. Why should software companies develop software that has to be constantly rewritten? Something smells rotten at Apple! Does Captain Crook have a real sense of where his ship is headed?

By: quiviran

quiviran — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:56:41 +0000

GPS locations are based on satellites in stationary orbit. IP locations are based on where a given router was at some time, with no way to know if it is still correct.

I was in a campground, parked near a guy with a mobile satellite internet connection. The database of IP locations thought his router was still in Las Vegas, about 1500 miles away. Needless to say, any directions given using that router as the starting point were going to be way off. I like real GPS, not pretend GPS.

By: Nerd Beautiful

Nerd Beautiful — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:07:07 +0000

Thanks. Yes. My apologies; I thought he was suggesting that lynx = linky = broken

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:36:31 +0000

Actually, these very naughty boys need a good spanking! But I am not interested in giving it to them. I’m only interested in people LEARNING and THINKING before they blether total bullshit at people. That’s NOT forgivable. THAT needs help. I need my coffee. YOU need to stop being an anonymous coward when you post.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:33:27 +0000

iMacs: EXCELLENT! Thanks Alf. I love learning new stuff.

Wi-Fi Router Location! Sucks! Have fun with that!

By: Who

Who — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:09:48 +0000

Chill out son…….

Get some help, you exhibit major Megalomania issues.

One last thing Derek, you do understand “It is only the Internet”. /s

(Next)

By: Alf

Alf — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:21:57 +0000

A) the new iMacs, for one, have noise cancelling, beam forming mics
B) There’s no need for GPS per se: Approximate geolocation is already built-in using both standard IP-based methods as well as the more accurate WiFi-based locating methods. In any case, even a simple Web browser-like mapping functionality would be welcome.

By: Ballmer's left nut

Ballmer's left nut — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:17:26 +0000

Obtaining a lock on three orbiting satellites indoors while using your Mac is moot anyway so GPS isn’t going to add accuracy to what is available over WiFi.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:15:11 +0000

I told you the BLUE pills. The triangular shaped ones.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:14:37 +0000

I get really pissed off when people refuse to do their homework, then blether ignorant crap at other people. I’m kewl that way!

By: Ballmer's left nut

Ballmer's left nut — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:13:16 +0000

I have very little problem using Dragon Dictate for Mac using the built in microphone. You could if you want to use an external microphone for greater accuracy but the built in microphone works well enough for me.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:12:49 +0000

And no, Wi-Fi router location detection / ‘triangulation’ (which it is NOT, go read about it!) does NOT cut it. You’ve never used actual GPS, have you? And compared it with Wi-Fi router location detection? Try it. You’ll hate it. That’s why people pay lots of money for actual GPS. And yeah, even GPS isn’t perfect.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:08:31 +0000

Dictation for Mac has been around for AGES! So DUH ON YOU.

Go read the Noise-Canceling Microphone page I so kindly provided and figure out WHAT THEY ARE FOR.

Drive in your car, using OS X dictation on a MacBook, and see just how wonderfully well OS X comprehends what you’re saying. It CAN’T. Why? Because of NOISE in your CAR because it has an ENGINE and there’s noise OUTSIDE and few cars are actually SOUNDPROOF. Are you getting the clue now? Good.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:05:13 +0000

Rubbish. Nuance, aka Dragon, tell you NOT to use your Mac’s microphone, don’t they. That’s why they sell and suggest noise cancelation microphones.

Apple is rarely stupid. Offering Siri without a noise-canceling microphone is stupid. Apple has zero interest in all the complaints, most likely including your own BLN, when Siri can’t understand what you’re saying because of the noise IN YOUR CAR while you’re driving.

You can be such a dolt BLN. No wonder Microsoft is taking a dive. Take your damned pills! Yeah, those blue ones.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:01:54 +0000

Plugging in a noise-canceling mic is great! So Apple will sell one?

Maps DO require GPS if you want to use the app for actually DRIVING to your destination. That’s why I would expect this feature in MacBooks. They’re mobile. [Using Wi-Fi router location detection while driving doesn't cut it. Sorry.]

By: Sam Spade

Sam Spade — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:59:36 +0000

Derek, dictation is already apart of OSX 10.8.2.
The addition is a Siri driven.

And Derek, IP addresses can be located as closely as GPS.

By: Ballmer's left nut

Ballmer's left nut — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:58:16 +0000

I can hold a conversation over FaceTime or Skype with my MacBook Pro, and iMac without any problems at all using the same microphone that is inherent in the machines. I can, if I want to, dictate passages to Dragon Dictate on the Mac using the same microphone with little error. Therefore, having a noise cancellation microphone isn’t necessary to use Siri.

As for built in GPS on a Mac, that would be less than ideal. How many times are you going to use your Mac as a mobile device when hiking or driving. You can use Wi-Fi triangulation which should be good enough, or derive location data from your iPhone over WiFi.

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:55:12 +0000

A) Can support noise-canceling microphones that the user plugs in (doesn’t have to be built-in)

B) Maps doesn’t require GPS, just like Google or MapQuest web pages work fine when the user has to type in the destinations.

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:46:59 +0000

Me find linky!

http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/21729/apple-os-x-109-coming-patent-purchases-suggest-icloud-improvements

You happy now sailer man? Five dollar!

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:40:09 +0000

Mac OS X 10.9 is expected to see the introduction of support for Siri and Apple Maps on the Mac.

Not likely, not without special accompanying Macs, most likely MacBooks, containing:

A) Noise-Canceling Microphones
B) Built in GPS

It’s also possible the company may begin to introduce a more 3D-like user interface within the OS, or potentially within iOS.

Someone’s been reading my posts here at MDN over the last few years! How gratifying.

By: MEES

MEES — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:39:32 +0000

Apple maps + Siri + Apple Pro apps = a happy Mac user

By: spyintheskyuk

spyintheskyuk — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:37:51 +0000

Aaah now Liger or Tigon would work rather well for a closer OSX/iOS combo with increased overlaps or Hybrid. However maybe time to move on to something else as a full OS11 upgrade with whatever chosen theme, especially as no doubt by then Mr Ive will have had spread his considerable design influence all over it.

By: ppeterson

ppeterson — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:21:01 +0000

Won’t matter.

By: Opsono

Opsono — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:10:42 +0000

Sabertooth

By: Yes, the "more" link is...

Yes, the "more" link is... — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:25:06 +0000

… broken. This is the sort of confusion you can stumble on with some languages. Lynx Links.
I suspect neither humor nor sarcasm here so much as a little confusion, possibly intended. The use of a name like Sucker would suggest a different attempt at humor/sarcasm.

By: So ... will there be more ...

So ... will there be more ... — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:17:23 +0000

… ignorant questions here for a) so, next is OSXI or b) so, next is tabby?
After OS 10.9 will be OS 10.10, then 10.11 … this is not “decimal system numbering”.
Next will be another small cat … ocelot? Because all the BIG cats have been used. Unless they decide to use an even rarer large cat … Liger, perhaps? Tigon? Or switch to canines, or clowns. It’s a CODE NAME!
NB … agree, Lynx is a sensible name – me likes.

By: The Graphic Mac

The Graphic Mac — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:13:43 +0000

WTF are you talking about? Sucker was pointing out the link is broken… which it is. Am I failing to grasp your humor/sarcasm here?

By: Nerd Beautiful

Nerd Beautiful — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:03:14 +0000

Sucker = wrong

Links makes great sense. Should be great

By: Sucker

Sucker — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:34:06 +0000

Linky = brokey