“Apple stock could be headed to a level of $425 per share this quarter, DoubleLine CEO Jeff Gundlach said after the company reported disappointing earnings Wednesday,” Bruno J. Navarro reports for CNBC. “‘I think this is really a broken company that is over-owned,’ he said on ‘Fast Money.'”
“For the fiscal first quarter, it posted net income of $13.07 billion, or $13.81 a diluted share, compared to $13.06 billion, or $13.87 a share, a year earlier,” Navarro reports. “Gundlach also said that Apple stock remained ‘very, very much in the public’s psyche,’ which would keep share prices artificially high.”
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IF Apple BREAKS – they all fall.
The tech sector is in trouble.
Apple has been the underdog before and will rise again on new innovations, no matter what. Are other companies ready? Hell no.
I think Jeff Gundlach has a broken mind.
Everybody has one, and nobody more than Wall Street.
LOL Perfect!
Perfectly wrapped up!
I have but one question:
Who the fsck are DoubleLine?
Keep chatting brown Gundlach, you seem to be very apt at it.
Yea, world record profits are a real smoking gun, aren’t they? Does anybody think this share drop has anything to do with the rumors that Tim Cook is gay and conservative fund managers don’t like that so they manipulate the market? This whole thing stinks to high heaven. I hope the SEC is looking into the trades.
WTF? Rumors of Tim Cook’s sexuality move the market?! What are you smoking?
I’ve been following and accurately valuing Apple’s stock with dozens of colleagues for years. At no point has any single one of my colleagues or ANYONE we interact with externally mentioned his sexuality. Your brand of ignorance is easily the most nefarious form of mob-mentality. Learn to follow the trends, understand that very few analysts have realistic/accurate projections, and enjoy the buying opportunities when they arrive. Most of us know there is nothing wrong with AAPL or TIm Cook.
This may be one of the most silly things I have ever seen posted at MDN (and that’s saying something). Money Managers are about MAKING MONEY, and if you have a 401k or a pension, or any mutual funds, you should be happy that that is their motivation.
Huh? A person’s sexuality influencing the market?
Who would have thought??
I wish I was that broken.
american jealousy killing american jewelry
If Apple with another incredible quarter isn’t worthy then GD’it who is? Only in America can tremendous success be interpreted so dire. Unbelievable. I’m getting no shortage of grief from my wife for having not cashed in last September and when will we see $700 again? (And beyond.)
That’s so funny, because my wife berates me every day about exactly the same thing (“Why didn’t you sell at $700??!!”). Geej! Because I’m long on AAPL, that’s why. It WILL go back up. They just can’t keep it down forever (at least I hope they can’t). Why AAPL is treated so horrendously differently than every other stock remains a mystery to me…
All I can say is, “keep the faith, brother”. It has GOT to get better eventually (one day everyone will wake up and actually understand AAPL’s fundamentals are so amazing)…
I’m not bothered what the hell they say. The moment it hits $450 I’m picking up some.
He meant DoubleLine is a broken company.
The bullshit coming out of these analysts is really quite frightening. I wonder if that analyst that predicted aapl hitting $280 might be right after all.
What?- so it will have a P/E of 1? 😠
Bullshit. (and, growing up on a farm, I’ve stepped in enough to know) 😉
ok, so now it is time to cue up the chorus about “anal-ists” and their impact upon share price.- (which i must say is a very tiresome refrain)
so, that aside, despite record profits- again – the numbers did not meet “expectations” and we get clobbered – again.
rather than bemoaning their overweight and negative impact, perhaps someone might be interested in doing some investigative journalism.
how about “somebody” looking into exactly who generates these high expectational figures, who they work for, how these figures are generated, and how they become the consensus expectation, which mr. apple never seems to be able to meet.
just keep in mind the two prime axiom that explains nearly everything in politics and business – “what’s in it for them” and “follow the money”
I really hope that the finance department at Apple is sending large buy orders for AAPL stock this morning. I was hoping that they were going to say on the conference call that the board authorized additional share buybacks beyond the 10 billion authorized so far.
It’s about growth, folks. That’s what drove the price to where it was, and that’s dragging the price to where it is. Sure it was a great Q in absolute terms, but virtually unch from a year ago. That’s after an iPad Mini and iPhone 5. All is not rosy in the garden.
14 weeks last year and 13 weeks this year…unchanged?
iMacs unavailable from October to early December?
iPhone 5 manufacturing constraints?
All of these were issues that affected the quarter’s numbers.
The one week shortened quarter was figured into the analysis. And yes, you do mention the facts correctly. iPad Mini, iPhone five and Mac constraints did affect sales. Had they had enough product available they would’ve had more sales and generated more revenue and the earnings call would have been better. They didn’t and it wasn’t. Those are the facts.
I don’t see where they figured in the 14 weeks:
““For the fiscal first quarter, it posted net income of $13.07 billion, or $13.81 a diluted share, compared to $13.06 billion, or $13.87 a share, a year earlier,” Navarro reports.”
That’s not “no growth” as was stated elsewhere.
As to “they didn’t, it wasn’t” BS, what is being discussed here is the long term viability and profitability of Apple. To judge that on the basis of a snapshot in time, particularly when that snapshot just happens to include aberrant data (new product expenses, manufacturing glitches, etc.), is either stupid or dishonest, take your pick.
Zeke, a snapshot in time is what earnings are all about. You can bury your head in the sand hold your breath whenever you want to do but that’s reality. Besides, Apple was a momentum stock that’s why it ran so high so fast. Too high too fast. Was Wall Street supposed to keep people from buying Apple as it ramped up to $705 in the blink of an eye? Why wasn’t it manipulation all the way up to $705 but it is manipulation down to $460? You can’t have it both ways Zeke.
“Why wasn’t it manipulation all the way up to $705 but it is manipulation down to $460?”
Because the fundamentals indicated that it should have been at at least $800. That’s why.
And a balance sheet tells you very little about a business and its prospects. That’s a snapshot. If that’s how you invest then you truly have been just lucky (if, indeed, you’ve made any money at all).
Wow. If 13 bill a quarter is broken, I wonder what they think 5 bill a quarter is?
this idiot is probably one who thinks RIMM is a great value stock since it has a lock in the enterprise market, and AMZN is undervalued because Kindle / Cloud / International blah blah blah but AAPL is “broken” since Toyota’s are outselling BMWs, so BMW is losing the “car war”
I really think that the best thing Apple can do right now, on the finance side, is to borrow $100 billion at historically low interest rates, and just buy back as much of the outstanding stock as possible. The purpose of public stock is to provide capital to companies that need it. Apple does not need public capital at this point, and I think the wall street tides of wall street sentiment (which fuels all the rumors and unrealistic expectations) just hurts them.
If Steve was still alive, I’d imagine that he would be getting a call from Larry Elison this morning to do a deal together to take Apple private like Elison wanted to do with him in the 90s.
I think you’re right. Wall Street wants Apple to create debt so the banks they are allied with can service it. Wall Street hates companies that are seriously in the black.
A little too independent for their liking.
These analysts are ridiculous. Apple gave guidance about 6 months before the iPad was released that its profit margins would decline due to higher component costs. Basically that was Apple telling analysts that it was transitioning from a computer company to a mobile device company, and that it did not expect to maintain its traditional 40%-45% margins. And gee, look what happened when mobile devices seriously dominate Apple’s sales?
Not that we would expect analysts to pay attention to a company’s guidance or remember it.
Dear Apple, the best thing you can do for your investors right now, is to start buying back your stock. You have more cash than you know what to do with it. We know you will continue to make billions every quarter because people love your products. Right now your image as a stock to own, has been tarnished. Do the smart thing. It’s only money!
Beleaguered Apple. They should just return all the money to their shareholders 🙂
Good the BOD are hand picked by Steve and Co. Smart people who won’t do a stupid move just to satisfy stock returns to greedy, sleazy investors.
I sure wish MY company was that broken. In fact is there any businessman in the world who wouldn’t kill to have that kind of success?
Hi Jeff,
Let’s just suppose that we the ‘consumers’ just keep on buying ‘Apple Inc.’ products ‘en masse’ in preference to anything else into the near and distant future, then do you think that this fact may impact upon your thinking? Huh?
Boy, get me one of these “broken” companies that pull in a cool $13 billion for three months of work! People in the media often end up drinking and enjoying their own bathwater, but this is getting ridiculous. Apple is probably the only company where the better the results, the fiercer the smear.
If this kind of trash talk was really intended to drive down the stock price of Apple, the most successful company in the world, keep in mind that will also drive down stock prices of everything else. Analysts should be careful what they wish for.