“In one of the rare interviews he has granted as CEO, [Google’s Larry] Page recently discussed thinking big and other Googley issues with Wired at the company’s Mountain View, California, headquarters,” Steve Levy reports for Wired.
A snippet:
Wired: Steve Jobs felt competitive enough to claim that he was willing to ‘go to thermonuclear war’ on Android.
Android can be widespread and still demographically inferior precisely because of the way in which and to whom Android devices are marketed. Unending BOGO promos attract a seemingly unending stream of cheapskate freetards just as inane, pointless TV commercials about robots or blasting holes in concrete walls attract meatheads and dullards, not exactly the best demographics unless you’re peddling muscle building powders or grease monkey overalls.
Google made a crucial mistake: They gave away Android to “partners” who pushed and continue to push the product into the hands of the exact opposite type of user that Google needs for Android to truly thrive. Hence, Android is a backwater of second-rate, or worse, app versions that are only downloaded when free or ad-supported – but the Android user is notoriously cheap, so the ads don’t sell for much because they don’t work very well. You’d have guessed that Google would have understood this, but you’d have guessed wrong. Google built a platform that depends heavily on advertising support, but sold it to the very type of customer who’s the least likely to patronize ads.
iOS users are the ones who buy apps, so developers focus on iOS users. iOS users buy products, so accessory makers focus on iOS users. iOS users have money and the proven will to spend it, so vehicle makers focus on iOS users. Etcetera.
Android can have the “Hee Haw” demographic. Apple doesn’t want it or need it; it’s far more trouble than it’s worth.
$GOOG stole IP that belongs to VRNG. EFVA Court jury ruled 100% for $VRNG. However, GOOG is fighting the result. Iniitial amount was minor because of an alleged mis-calculation by Jury. Award could be increased and possible trebled. Worst case for GOOG is about $1 billion over 4 years. IMO judge erred on API copyright in ORCL vs GOOG. Oracle is appealing. If Oracle prevails Android is toast or needs to be rewritten. Unfortunately this litigation mess takes forever. Payback may come with next earnings report. Can’t believe MMI and tablets are not a drag on GOOG earnings.
“Trebled”? You mean they might use a Graphic Equalizer and boost everything at 4khz and up by 12db?
It goes to 11.
No, he meant “trebled” as in “made treble.” When infringement is willful, judges or juries may award treble damages. This is a real word, and used properly by pridon.
If you’re going to pick on someone’s grammar or spelling, it’s wise to double-check your own understanding of the issue. http://www.google.com/search?q=define:trebled
Yes, but a judge will never let Android be toast no matter how much they stole. In his eyes, it would hurt the “public” too much . . . because the courts dragged their feet so long and allowed too many people to buy in.
Lots of money drains your sense of business morality.
Interesting that Google Page used Android to go after the lowest common denominator phone user with “free” software to gather info from all Google services so he could resell it.
Question is whether he would have done better to have licensed only to high end smart phones ala Apple to gain traction from high income users.
Seems that for every Android phone Samsung sells it cannibalizes Google’s search business by moving searches from PC, where they make some money, to phones, where they actually lose money. No wonder they refuse to state profits from Android. There aren’t any, and search is moving away from them with every phone and tablet of any brand that is sold. Thermonuclear? Page doesn’t even know he’s doomed. Google is dead meat walking. Another Microsoft in just a few years.
Larry Page: How well is your ‘thermonuclear war’ working, Apple?
Apple: “You tell me, I’m taking 80% of the profits, iPad still kicking asses everywhere, Developers first code for iOS and last for android and if that’s not enough, I just won 1.3 BILLIONS from one of your partners in crime, I still have a lot of business going on (software, ads, macs and iPods), so, How well am I doing Larry?”
ooooh, that really cuts low, Botvinnik. Anorexic meets gross.
How well is it working? There’s not a Google application, or an Android or Samsung product in my household, and there won’t be…EVER! Understand, Jackass?
Did I say that? No, I didn’t. And as soon as Apple dumps Samsung completely as a supplier, and drops Google as the default search engine in OS X, I’ll feel much better about buying new Apple products.
This vampire blood sucking turdface is even worse than Schmidt. No, I take that back….they are equally douche.
To think that Steve actually gave “ADVICE” to this fuckface while on his deathbed. What was he thinking? SJ always had a soft heart to see high tech flourish in Silicon Valley. His heart was to be like Mr Hewlett and Packard.They were there to help him when he needed them. But little did he know he was actually helping blood sucking SOB’s that wanted to see him die. The relief emanating from Samdung, Google and MS was all too palpable when he passed on. All too sad, but true.
So it’s appears by looking at google’s upper management that being a complete fscking douche is a prerequisite to work there.
And, as many have pointed out, they should be directing the question at themselves.*
*Unless he’s talking about the court of public opinion, which apple is not handling well, and regarding which, the douches at google are shamelessly using money and their Internet dominance to unduly influence.
So much for Steve Jobs trying to mentor this guy. For years I gave Page the benefit of the doubt and attributed Google’s move into Android as Eric Schmidt’s perfidy. But no longer. “Do no evil” LOL!
Apple is getting most of the profits that Google wasn’t going to get anyway. They are both winning here as Google Services are well represented on iOS.
The real losers are Microsoft which can never se an OS again and every other hardware vendor whose name does not rhyme with dung.
This ass-hat hasn’t the first clue about where Apple has it’s R&D resources allocated. He lost that insight the day Eric Schmidt was booted from Apple’s board. There’s a clear delineation between innovating with purpose and ramshackle experimentation. Rest assured, Apple is hard at work on what it feels is the next great thing. They’re making good money while they’re at it.
The most extraordinary breakthroughs don’t happen overnight. There were almost 2 decades separating the Mac from the iPod. 6 years later came the iPhone, which we eventually learned originated from an early iPad concept. It took nearly 25 years to deliver three products that changed the world forever. For all of the alleged “innovation” that Page is churning out at Google, they have yet to produce a single seminal product to impact our species the way that these 3 Apple products have.
Google started out with a killer mission – connect humankind with all data everywhere. The real hypocrisy here is that Google seemingly decided at some point to stop focusing on that and instead compete in as many markets as they can. I’d argue that they left a ton of important innovation on the table the day they decided to compete with Apple.
Don’t be so sure they don’t have other moles inside Apple. Jobs knew as much when he was there and put in place tight security, and Cook said he was doubling down on security, my guess one of the last lessons he and Steve discussed.
Goog spent 12500 million for Motorola , a company that loses money and whose patents are FRAND compromised.
at that rate it’ll take 100 years for Google to make money off android.
Meanwhile apple rakes in billions in profit off iOS every quarter.
Perhaps Apple should say: ” the thermonuclear war is going just FINE Page”
(all the google marketshare numbers is google’s desperate attempts to hoodwink investors who are wondering when the android fiasco is going to pay off. )
The snarkiness of Page’s response is unprofessional and uncalled for, but by and large he’s right. I’m sure Page was thinking of the UK nutcake who forced Apple to apologize to Samsung, Samsung’s Koh trump card, Richard Posner the rambling psychotic, Android winning in the market, and most of all how he brought Cook the timid apologist to his knees over the iMaps problem.
Yes, Android is winning through cheating and getting away with it, but so what. Cook needs to understand is there’s no right or wrong in business, but only win or lose. He needs to fight fire with fire or get out of the kitchen if he can’t stand the heat. They are killing Apple because of Cook’s timidity, goody two shoes, and incompetence.
So, Larry Page is bragging that he stole from Apple and got away with it?
Exactly.
Often cheaters prosper.
$GOOG stole IP that belongs to VRNG. EFVA Court jury ruled 100% for $VRNG. However, GOOG is fighting the result. Iniitial amount was minor because of an alleged mis-calculation by Jury. Award could be increased and possible trebled. Worst case for GOOG is about $1 billion over 4 years. IMO judge erred on API copyright in ORCL vs GOOG. Oracle is appealing. If Oracle prevails Android is toast or needs to be rewritten. Unfortunately this litigation mess takes forever. Payback may come with next earnings report. Can’t believe MMI and tablets are not a drag on GOOG earnings.
“Trebled”? You mean they might use a Graphic Equalizer and boost everything at 4khz and up by 12db?
It goes to 11.
No, he meant “trebled” as in “made treble.” When infringement is willful, judges or juries may award treble damages. This is a real word, and used properly by pridon.
If you’re going to pick on someone’s grammar or spelling, it’s wise to double-check your own understanding of the issue.
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:trebled
Yes, but a judge will never let Android be toast no matter how much they stole. In his eyes, it would hurt the “public” too much . . . because the courts dragged their feet so long and allowed too many people to buy in.
Lots of money drains your sense of business morality.
Interesting that Google Page used Android to go after the lowest common denominator phone user with “free” software to gather info from all Google services so he could resell it.
Question is whether he would have done better to have licensed only to high end smart phones ala Apple to gain traction from high income users.
Here’s a good read on that:
http://techpinions.com/why-android-is-winning-the-battles-but-google-is-losing-the-war-part-1/12046
Seems that for every Android phone Samsung sells it cannibalizes Google’s search business by moving searches from PC, where they make some money, to phones, where they actually lose money. No wonder they refuse to state profits from Android. There aren’t any, and search is moving away from them with every phone and tablet of any brand that is sold. Thermonuclear? Page doesn’t even know he’s doomed. Google is dead meat walking. Another Microsoft in just a few years.
Larry Page: How well is your ‘thermonuclear war’ working, Apple?
Apple: “You tell me, I’m taking 80% of the profits, iPad still kicking asses everywhere, Developers first code for iOS and last for android and if that’s not enough, I just won 1.3 BILLIONS from one of your partners in crime, I still have a lot of business going on (software, ads, macs and iPods), so, How well am I doing Larry?”
Hey Larry, that horse, Mr. Ed, called, he wants his teeth back!
Regarding story, if Samsung pays its fine, I reckon it’s working fine for Apple. How deep are your pockets Larry?
Excellent! 🙂
Straight out of ‘Deliverance’ them teeth!
lol.
“Wilburrrrrrrr!”
I bet that horse didn’t want his pancreatic cancer back too
“Hew Haw” demographic.
(smirk)
Larry needs dental work.
Not dental work.
Upper lip work to cover those teeth perhaps.
Yes, perhaps a lip transplant from one of those porn stars from the previous thread.
His gums need to worked on by his personal mohel.
liposuction?
Dem gums been from crooked DNA
Page needs a lip. Schmidt needs a chin. Maybe they can work something out.
yeah, kinda like Karen Carpenter and Mama Cass over that damned ham sandwich.
ooooh, that really cuts low, Botvinnik. Anorexic meets gross.
How well is it working? There’s not a Google application, or an Android or Samsung product in my household, and there won’t be…EVER! Understand, Jackass?
Yes, Same here ENER!!!
Please tell me more about all of your Apple products that don’t have any Samsung components..
Did I say that? No, I didn’t. And as soon as Apple dumps Samsung completely as a supplier, and drops Google as the default search engine in OS X, I’ll feel much better about buying new Apple products.
Seriously, what is your point?
Google mole on Apple’s board GONE before the thermonuclear war and lawsuits began.
In the future when Apple secures components from anybody but Samsung, what will your point be then?
No amount of money, not even Larry’s, can fix that case of the gummies.
Here’s a hint, though, Larry: Whitening strips, at the very least. And smile less, you remorseless crook.
You might also want to try not taunting a dead creative genius whose sandals you’re not fit to carry, you ugly SOB.
That little bastard will be singing a different tune one of these days. Pow—right in the kisser!!!
Meet the new Steve Ballmer from Google, by the way, google, the new microsoft.
Ouch! Aim for the gum line so you don’t get all that icky plaque and yellow stuff on your knuckles.
This vampire blood sucking turdface is even worse than Schmidt. No, I take that back….they are equally douche.
To think that Steve actually gave “ADVICE” to this fuckface while on his deathbed. What was he thinking? SJ always had a soft heart to see high tech flourish in Silicon Valley. His heart was to be like Mr Hewlett and Packard.They were there to help him when he needed them. But little did he know he was actually helping blood sucking SOB’s that wanted to see him die. The relief emanating from Samdung, Google and MS was all too palpable when he passed on. All too sad, but true.
Ok now, please someone DO GIVE ’em some thermonuclear. I wanna have it.
So it’s appears by looking at google’s upper management that being a complete fscking douche is a prerequisite to work there.
And, as many have pointed out, they should be directing the question at themselves.*
*Unless he’s talking about the court of public opinion, which apple is not handling well, and regarding which, the douches at google are shamelessly using money and their Internet dominance to unduly influence.
So much for Steve Jobs trying to mentor this guy. For years I gave Page the benefit of the doubt and attributed Google’s move into Android as Eric Schmidt’s perfidy. But no longer. “Do no evil” LOL!
Apple is getting most of the profits that Google wasn’t going to get anyway. They are both winning here as Google Services are well represented on iOS.
The real losers are Microsoft which can never se an OS again and every other hardware vendor whose name does not rhyme with dung.
What a doofus.
This ass-hat hasn’t the first clue about where Apple has it’s R&D resources allocated. He lost that insight the day Eric Schmidt was booted from Apple’s board. There’s a clear delineation between innovating with purpose and ramshackle experimentation. Rest assured, Apple is hard at work on what it feels is the next great thing. They’re making good money while they’re at it.
The most extraordinary breakthroughs don’t happen overnight. There were almost 2 decades separating the Mac from the iPod. 6 years later came the iPhone, which we eventually learned originated from an early iPad concept. It took nearly 25 years to deliver three products that changed the world forever. For all of the alleged “innovation” that Page is churning out at Google, they have yet to produce a single seminal product to impact our species the way that these 3 Apple products have.
Google started out with a killer mission – connect humankind with all data everywhere. The real hypocrisy here is that Google seemingly decided at some point to stop focusing on that and instead compete in as many markets as they can. I’d argue that they left a ton of important innovation on the table the day they decided to compete with Apple.
Don’t be so sure they don’t have other moles inside Apple. Jobs knew as much when he was there and put in place tight security, and Cook said he was doubling down on security, my guess one of the last lessons he and Steve discussed.
How’s that “Don’t be evil” working for ya?
They should’ve asked who’s making more from Android, Google or Apple?
Those gums are scary
In his defense, what exactly is he supposed to say when asked a question like that?
Hey, @Bongo- anything other than what he did, asswipe.
Good point. But hey,it sure gets all the fanboy’s bowels in an uproar! Jeez! Brings em outta momma’s basement. But GOOG is evil. Larry in particular.
according to oracle/Google court case Google said they made 550 million from Android since inception 2008 to 2011 , i.e roughly 100+ million a year.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/29/google-earns-more-iphone-android
Goog spent 12500 million for Motorola , a company that loses money and whose patents are FRAND compromised.
at that rate it’ll take 100 years for Google to make money off android.
Meanwhile apple rakes in billions in profit off iOS every quarter.
Perhaps Apple should say: ” the thermonuclear war is going just FINE Page”
(all the google marketshare numbers is google’s desperate attempts to hoodwink investors who are wondering when the android fiasco is going to pay off. )
HWITW?
A new quote (besides that old Dell one that we so fondly cherish).
Gummy Page will eat his words.
Tell the snotty ‘mole babysat’ dick MDN!
Hey Larry, when eRic TT Mole baby sat you all those years, how much did he fiddle about with you?
The snarkiness of Page’s response is unprofessional and uncalled for, but by and large he’s right. I’m sure Page was thinking of the UK nutcake who forced Apple to apologize to Samsung, Samsung’s Koh trump card, Richard Posner the rambling psychotic, Android winning in the market, and most of all how he brought Cook the timid apologist to his knees over the iMaps problem.
Yes, Android is winning through cheating and getting away with it, but so what. Cook needs to understand is there’s no right or wrong in business, but only win or lose. He needs to fight fire with fire or get out of the kitchen if he can’t stand the heat. They are killing Apple because of Cook’s timidity, goody two shoes, and incompetence.
Half-cocked and half-baked again.