Comments on: Steve Jobs’ ‘Mothership’ Apple campus delayed until mid-2016

By: luckey

luckey — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:46:31 +0000

Nice post many thanks to all

By: mraz

mraz — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 04:48:49 +0000

So is “American Made” Toxic Drywall…..

By: Brad

Brad — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:42:28 +0000

I have even heard them blaming Romney for this crap now. Tell me how that works.

By: MuscatMan

MuscatMan — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 03:26:04 +0000

This has similarity to the Indian Parliement building. Check it out using Maps App… If Parliement was owned by Samdung they would sue Apple for patent infringement…

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:45:11 +0000

We all hope that by 2016 Apple will have axed their architect and hired someone who can design a practical building: compact, efficient, and pleasing to the people who will work in the building, not the people who will be looking at it from online satellite photos.

A ring shape by definition does not:
- take best advantage of natural light
- take best advantage of site topology
- enable convenient access inside or out
- maximize HVAC & systems efficiency
- and so forth.

what single advantage does the proposed building offer? It can be architected by a 5-year old with a compass and crayon.

By: Danox

Danox — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:02:04 +0000

Chinese drywall is a bitch!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_gypsum_board

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Chinese+drywall&qpvt=Chinese+drywall&FORM=IGRE

By: althegeo

althegeo — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:13:20 +0000

It looks more like a hemorrhoid cushion than a piece of shit, IMHO.

By: althegeo

althegeo — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:06:22 +0000

I’m pissed of at you from time to time, but you are nothing but right this time.

By: althegeo

althegeo — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:00:53 +0000

Chinese Junks sailed around the earth long before Columbus got brave enough to sail west.

Chinese Junks, good.

By: First 2014, Then 2016

First 2014, Then 2016 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:36:46 +0000

By: First 2014, Then 2016

First 2014, Then 2016 — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:30:16 +0000

“China can *pretend* to build the world’s tallest building in 90 days” is more like it.

Regardless, the fact that “work” continues on the World Trade Center 11+ years later is a NATIONAL DISGRACE for all involved, regardless of party.

I’ll tell you one thing, if I was U.S. President (I know, I know) instead of Bush, those buildings would have been right back where they stood, looking exactly the same, but stronger and one floor higher within the year (the 11th floors of both towers would be forever-empty as a permanent memorial).

I might have failed at many things, but I guarantee that I wouldn’t have failed at that.

The U.S. ought to be deeply ashamed at its un-American response to rebuilding after 9/11 in NYC.

By: Barca boy

Barca boy — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:40:16 +0000

This from a company renown for design. This building is a piece of shit on a grand scale.

By: tbone

tbone — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:34:26 +0000

California’s “ridiculous environmental laws” are created so that fools like you and your boss don’t damage God’s earth any more than your silly capitalism has already done. The sheer population density in California, coupled with a wrm climate and the LA Basin, and the San Andreas fault line etc. make in super critical that no one ass clown can do whatever they want because they think that they have some god-given right to do. The planet is for everybody. Put your little pile of greed back in your pants. Your brains are showing.

By: RC

RC — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:26:56 +0000

Good lord, Bush hasn’t even been in office for 4 years now, but nice try.

By: Jean Poole

Jean Poole — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:19:43 +0000

‘In California it takes 5 years to build a 4 storey corporate headquarters.’

Not true! 5-1/2 years are wasted in the permit stage – by idiot government shirkers.

By: Agent Provocateur

Agent Provocateur — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:18:09 +0000

The former H-P Campus is filled with buildings loaded with Asbestos- a known carcinogen. Asbestos removal is a necessary step prior to demolition.

Would you rather Apple build it and then find out the campus is contaminated and every employee has been exposed to a lung cancer causing agent?
Sure China can build it in 90 days, they also have put anti-freeze in dog food and lead paint in children’s toys shipped to the US.

Those ‘job killing’ regulations so-called conservatives are always bitching about were mostly created after a human toll of death, disability or injury was inflicted on a significant number of people. Prior to those regulations we had rivers catch on fire (Cuyahoga River), workers burned to death (Triangle Shirtwaist Factory) & blown to bits (Washburn Mill), etc. It also got the lead out of gasoline and paint.

Do you really want to regress to the Gilded Age?

Most governments could do a better job co-operating with industry, but all too many are more than willing to cut corners that put the lives of workers, customers, and bystanders at risk. We need well thought out regulations that are regularly reviewed, evenly enforced and not designed to impede law abiding commerce.

By: abcd

abcd — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:58:55 +0000

Agree. I miss the old days when an envelope full of hundreds fixed these “environmental problems.”

By: NoJustWar

NoJustWar — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:48:15 +0000

oh cut the crap. The crap they build in China is junk. The construction is junk, the materials are junk and the labor is too cheap to maintain a decent lifestyle.
We don’t have manufacturing here for a number of reasons, none of which has to do with building a manufacturing plant.
– 2016-2013 = 3 years, not 5.
– This will be the most advanced office space ever built
– If zoning takes a bit longer, so be it. The construction may or may not have to be postponed for a number of reasons, including weather.

Prefab and modularity can help speed things up a bit, but in now way is it safe to build a building in 90 days.
Stop comparing the US to the most rich 3rd world nation. Would you compare yourself to toddler? No. So don’t compare us to China. It doesn’t do us any good.

By: Spark

Spark — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:35:07 +0000

You should know then that it often depends where and what in Calif you want to build. As much as it pains me to say, BLN is more right than not in this case. Apple is replacing HP buildings with their building. Replacing asphalt with parkland. It shouldn’t take until June to decide if Apple can break ground.

By: Alcancun

Alcancun — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:29:41 +0000

Yeah… But that’s what BLN is famous for….throwing out sh:t and seeing what sticks….glad you called him on it….I also have built in Cali…. Regulation were never the problem….however financing is an issue now that his friends on wall st., in the banking business and the GOP under Bush have screwed the pooch.

By: Zmarc

Zmarc — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:20:35 +0000

It took my boss six years to break ground on his house because of California’s ridiculous environmental laws (they originally claimed the property where he wanted to build — which already had a shack on it — was home to an endangered species of a bug that farmers routinely kill as a vile pest). He had to fight through gobs of red tape and pay for his own scientific studies to prove the bug didn’t live on his property (the bugs’ home was elsewhere — they just flew around and landed on various properties in the area). It was absurd.

By: Ralph M

Ralph M — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:19:09 +0000

As for China-where I will soon be going for the fourth time in the last year-the short construction periods are often paid for with high environmental and community impacts. By the way, that’s changing in China, too.

By: Ralph M

Ralph M — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:12:57 +0000

BLN – You haven’t a clue what you are talking about. I have built over a quarter of billion dollars in real estate development projects in my career-most of them in California-and unreasonable government regulation was rarely a problem in getting the projects done.

By: Figurative

Figurative — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:10:52 +0000

Yeah they have to figure out the impact of all those additional trees and vegetation in lieu of blacktop. Sheesh.

By: iNeuron

iNeuron — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:02:31 +0000

It is quite likely that even if they started it now, it will take 3 years to complete, furnish, and occupy. So saying it will be delayed until 2016, is a misleading timeline, unless they break ground in 2016.

By: Ballmer's left nut

Ballmer's left nut — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:52:53 +0000

Is it any wonder that manufacturing isn’t coming back to America any time soon. In China, they can build a 200 storey building in 90 days. In California it takes 5 years to build a 4 storey corporate headquarters. There’s some awesome red tape for you.