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	<title>Comments on: Beleaguered HP takes $8.8 billion writedown on Autonomy; forecasts profit miss on slumping Windows PC sales</title>
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		<title>By: Scott in Japan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott in Japan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 06:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Circling.... Circling...... Circling .....................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Circling&#8230;. Circling&#8230;&#8230; Circling &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the origin of using &quot;beleaguered.&quot; But it&#039;s gotten so repetitive on this site.

Also, Apple was beleaguered at one time. Thank goodness they aren&#039;t now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the origin of using &#8220;beleaguered.&#8221; But it&#8217;s gotten so repetitive on this site.</p>
<p>Also, Apple was beleaguered at one time. Thank goodness they aren&#8217;t now.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The earnings report came less than a week after Dell Inc. reported fiscal third-quarter revenue fell 11 percent and PC sales dropped 19 percent, amid competition from Apple Inc.’s iPad…”

So from this (as is the norm) Apple stock is down today too.

I don&#039;t get it. Why would the stock of your competitor go down when your sales are down because of said competitor? Someone please explain. Why isn&#039;t AAPL flying up on this news?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The earnings report came less than a week after Dell Inc. reported fiscal third-quarter revenue fell 11 percent and PC sales dropped 19 percent, amid competition from Apple Inc.’s iPad…”</p>
<p>So from this (as is the norm) Apple stock is down today too.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it. Why would the stock of your competitor go down when your sales are down because of said competitor? Someone please explain. Why isn&#8217;t AAPL flying up on this news?</p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re new here, aren&#039;t you?

&quot;Beleaguered&quot; is the Apple community&#039;s way of repaying all those who loved calling Apple &quot;beleaguered&quot; when they were in trouble, especially in the late 1990s, and when the first iMac and iPod were introduced. The favor is being returned ten fold.

If you&#039;re going to hang around here, get used to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re new here, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>&#8220;Beleaguered&#8221; is the Apple community&#8217;s way of repaying all those who loved calling Apple &#8220;beleaguered&#8221; when they were in trouble, especially in the late 1990s, and when the first iMac and iPod were introduced. The favor is being returned ten fold.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to hang around here, get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: hannahjs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hannahjs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Benighted, then. But no way are we removing their feet from the fire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benighted, then. But no way are we removing their feet from the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Road Warrior</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Road Warrior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The situation is very different when people can observe and think critically for themselves. Empowered people are a threat to those who thrive on usurping personal power from others. 

It&#039;s not just America, it&#039;s world wide. As the natural instinctive connective values of children is replaced by arbitrary rules and regulations modern day adult zombies are formed.

America will never reverse the rot on it&#039;s own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation is very different when people can observe and think critically for themselves. Empowered people are a threat to those who thrive on usurping personal power from others. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just America, it&#8217;s world wide. As the natural instinctive connective values of children is replaced by arbitrary rules and regulations modern day adult zombies are formed.</p>
<p>America will never reverse the rot on it&#8217;s own.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What kills me about this news, as well as other in the &quot;PC&quot; business, is that if Apple missed estimates as bad as any of these companies have then the stock would drop off a cliff.
Why can&#039;t these analysis figure out that Apple is not playing the same game as the PC vendors and if the PC industry is suffering then Apple is reaping the rewards. Today Apple is being dragged down because of more bad news to the PC industry. When will they learn that bad news for them is very good news for Apple and their post-PC position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kills me about this news, as well as other in the &#8220;PC&#8221; business, is that if Apple missed estimates as bad as any of these companies have then the stock would drop off a cliff.<br />
Why can&#8217;t these analysis figure out that Apple is not playing the same game as the PC vendors and if the PC industry is suffering then Apple is reaping the rewards. Today Apple is being dragged down because of more bad news to the PC industry. When will they learn that bad news for them is very good news for Apple and their post-PC position.</p>
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		<title>By: iNeuron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iNeuron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HP. Non Homo Economicus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP. Non Homo Economicus.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough with calling every company that isn&#039;t doing well &quot;beleaguered&quot; on this site, sheesh.  Get a new word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough with calling every company that isn&#8217;t doing well &#8220;beleaguered&#8221; on this site, sheesh.  Get a new word.</p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So will you be avoiding all the cheap, cheap, cheap Black Friday (and Thursday) madness this week?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So will you be avoiding all the cheap, cheap, cheap Black Friday (and Thursday) madness this week?</p>
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		<title>By: Necron99</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Necron99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revolving door CEO Leo Apotheker&#039;s parting gift that just keeps giving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revolving door CEO Leo Apotheker&#8217;s parting gift that just keeps giving.</p>
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		<title>By: althegeo</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/11/20/beleaguered-hp-takes-8-8-billion-writedown-on-autonomy-forecasts-profit-miss-on-slumping-windows-pc-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-1109274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[althegeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is something radically wrong when you have to critique your own comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something radically wrong when you have to critique your own comment.</p>
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		<title>By: vsp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vsp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do HP, Dell and many technology companies fall flat on their faces? They were supposed to lead American technology parade but unfortunately they were big disappointments. The reason? It&#039;s Microsoft&#039;s, Google&#039;s and Amazon&#039;s business model that dumb down American competitiveness. Microsoft provides cheap fishes to these companies instead of teaching them how to fish. All these companies have to do is to use Microsoft software at cheap rate and they do not have do do any R&amp;D. In the short term this strategy worked but in the long term as more and more companies used this route, the advantages cancelled out. Throughout the decades American have been suckered to believe that cheap, cheap, cheap is good. The airlines trumpeted the &quot;fly first, pay later&quot; mantra; the banks provided easy money on credit; Microsoft, Google, Amazon provides the means for companies to race to the bottom. Early birds to such utopias were the first to benefit but as more and more entrants chased the gravy train, the whole scheme collapsed. America is finding this lesson too late to reverse the rot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do HP, Dell and many technology companies fall flat on their faces? They were supposed to lead American technology parade but unfortunately they were big disappointments. The reason? It&#8217;s Microsoft&#8217;s, Google&#8217;s and Amazon&#8217;s business model that dumb down American competitiveness. Microsoft provides cheap fishes to these companies instead of teaching them how to fish. All these companies have to do is to use Microsoft software at cheap rate and they do not have do do any R&amp;D. In the short term this strategy worked but in the long term as more and more companies used this route, the advantages cancelled out. Throughout the decades American have been suckered to believe that cheap, cheap, cheap is good. The airlines trumpeted the &#8220;fly first, pay later&#8221; mantra; the banks provided easy money on credit; Microsoft, Google, Amazon provides the means for companies to race to the bottom. Early birds to such utopias were the first to benefit but as more and more entrants chased the gravy train, the whole scheme collapsed. America is finding this lesson too late to reverse the rot.</p>
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		<title>By: ken1w</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken1w]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The flight to quality (and consistency) leads to AAPL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flight to quality (and consistency) leads to AAPL.</p>
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