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	<title>Comments on: Romney and Obama spar over Apple&#8217;s Mac, iPad, and iPhone manufacturing jobs</title>
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		<title>By: The voice of reason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The voice of reason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Mitt Romney becomes president we&#039;re all in trouble. Obama is no saint but I would hate to think what sort of havoc Romney would wreak. Not only on the USA but also on the entire world. He has already admitted to not caring about almost half the population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mitt Romney becomes president we&#8217;re all in trouble. Obama is no saint but I would hate to think what sort of havoc Romney would wreak. Not only on the USA but also on the entire world. He has already admitted to not caring about almost half the population.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The guy makes my skin crawl, every time his mouth opens he lies. He is phony, stiff, heartless and cruel. I think his religion is a cult and quite frankly we do not need cultists and religion extremists running this country IMO.&quot;

Is this the liberal bias you were talking about? This is exactly the kind of narrow minded bigoted hate speech that I have become used to hearing from the left. Ignore Fox News all you want, but there is no justification for religious bigotry. None.

Romney has lead a life where he has shown live and compassion for others. Like Steve Jobs, Romney didn&#039;t go around bragging about his acts of compassion.

Sometimes political bias can be so bad you can&#039;t even see the human behind people you disagree with politically. You have this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The guy makes my skin crawl, every time his mouth opens he lies. He is phony, stiff, heartless and cruel. I think his religion is a cult and quite frankly we do not need cultists and religion extremists running this country IMO.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this the liberal bias you were talking about? This is exactly the kind of narrow minded bigoted hate speech that I have become used to hearing from the left. Ignore Fox News all you want, but there is no justification for religious bigotry. None.</p>
<p>Romney has lead a life where he has shown live and compassion for others. Like Steve Jobs, Romney didn&#8217;t go around bragging about his acts of compassion.</p>
<p>Sometimes political bias can be so bad you can&#8217;t even see the human behind people you disagree with politically. You have this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot see myself working in a school. I will admit there are wonderful teachers out there and also bored and mediocre teachers, and some that are just awful, but I do agree that there is a tend in the country to blame other people and chose leisure over hard work.

That said we do have problems in this country with our education system where other countries do far better than we do. I think we should be willing to see what makes other countries work better and how can we improve. I feel there is resistance to progress largely institutionalized by unions.

You are welcome to feel differently but you have given me a laundry list of excuses why teachers have problems. Excuses are never solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot see myself working in a school. I will admit there are wonderful teachers out there and also bored and mediocre teachers, and some that are just awful, but I do agree that there is a tend in the country to blame other people and chose leisure over hard work.</p>
<p>That said we do have problems in this country with our education system where other countries do far better than we do. I think we should be willing to see what makes other countries work better and how can we improve. I feel there is resistance to progress largely institutionalized by unions.</p>
<p>You are welcome to feel differently but you have given me a laundry list of excuses why teachers have problems. Excuses are never solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His cognitive function seems to be impaired.

I said: &quot;he is a moderate republican from where I sit.&quot;

Let me break that down for him:

HE---ISN&#039;T---LIBERAL---ENOUGH---FOR--ME

or

I--DON&#039;T--SEE--MUCH--LIBERAL--POLICY--HE--IS--A--CENTRIST--CORPORATIST--DESPITE--GOP--ATTEMPTS--AT--LABELING--HIM--A--SCARY--SOCIALIST]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His cognitive function seems to be impaired.</p>
<p>I said: &#8220;he is a moderate republican from where I sit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me break that down for him:</p>
<p>HE&#8212;ISN&#8217;T&#8212;LIBERAL&#8212;ENOUGH&#8212;FOR&#8211;ME</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>I&#8211;DON&#8217;T&#8211;SEE&#8211;MUCH&#8211;LIBERAL&#8211;POLICY&#8211;HE&#8211;IS&#8211;A&#8211;CENTRIST&#8211;CORPORATIST&#8211;DESPITE&#8211;GOP&#8211;ATTEMPTS&#8211;AT&#8211;LABELING&#8211;HIM&#8211;A&#8211;SCARY&#8211;SOCIALIST</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This simply isn&#039;t true. You just don&#039;t like that truth has a liberal bias.

Your news shouldn&#039;t be filtered through ANY political ideology nor should it be vetted by government or industry. Once any of that happens it ceases to be news and becomes instead propoganda. 

This is the very simple reason I do not watch Fox News. I mean have you ever listened to Ann Coulter or Hannity. More hate and BS wrapped in the flag than any sane person should ever be subjected too, all spewed for partisan hacks so they will buy the book. It is disgusting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This simply isn&#8217;t true. You just don&#8217;t like that truth has a liberal bias.</p>
<p>Your news shouldn&#8217;t be filtered through ANY political ideology nor should it be vetted by government or industry. Once any of that happens it ceases to be news and becomes instead propoganda. </p>
<p>This is the very simple reason I do not watch Fox News. I mean have you ever listened to Ann Coulter or Hannity. More hate and BS wrapped in the flag than any sane person should ever be subjected too, all spewed for partisan hacks so they will buy the book. It is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t advocate any blockade, I didn&#039;t talk about Obama. I specifically pointed out what Mittens is rich from:

Buying a company, raiding it&#039;s assets, firing middle management, raiding the pension funds, offshoring the labor, laying off the American Labor, sell it, profit obscenely.

That IS what Mitt and Bain DO, it is indisputable.

Legal? YES Moral? Not in my world. 

He will be friendly to this industry, it will continue, this business model is antithetical to US job growth, bottom line. Don&#039;t stand in front of me and tell me you are for American workers and jobs when you have a twenty year history that is the opposite of your narrative.

Gloss over it all you want, make excuses all you want. It doesn&#039;t make it not true, it means you don&#039;t care.

One doesn&#039;t have to beleive Obama is going to be great for this land to think Mittens is going to be horrible. Worse than Ford, Worse than Bush, more crooked than Nixon. Mark my words, part of me hopes he wins, so everyday I can point out to people like you what a huge mistake you are making. 

The guy makes my skin crawl, every time his mouth opens he lies. He is phony, stiff, heartless and cruel. I think his religion is a cult and quite frankly we do not need cultists and religion extremists running this country IMO. 

I also do not think BO has done enough, but I also know that over 200 pieces of legislation were shot down by the GOP, whose stated goal was to be uncooperative and see to it he had one term. I do not find that approach or mindset to be acceptable, so I am willing to see if he starts swinging hammers as a second termer. 

I am more comfortable with the thought of him continuing than Mitt coming in, it is that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t advocate any blockade, I didn&#8217;t talk about Obama. I specifically pointed out what Mittens is rich from:</p>
<p>Buying a company, raiding it&#8217;s assets, firing middle management, raiding the pension funds, offshoring the labor, laying off the American Labor, sell it, profit obscenely.</p>
<p>That IS what Mitt and Bain DO, it is indisputable.</p>
<p>Legal? YES Moral? Not in my world. </p>
<p>He will be friendly to this industry, it will continue, this business model is antithetical to US job growth, bottom line. Don&#8217;t stand in front of me and tell me you are for American workers and jobs when you have a twenty year history that is the opposite of your narrative.</p>
<p>Gloss over it all you want, make excuses all you want. It doesn&#8217;t make it not true, it means you don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>One doesn&#8217;t have to beleive Obama is going to be great for this land to think Mittens is going to be horrible. Worse than Ford, Worse than Bush, more crooked than Nixon. Mark my words, part of me hopes he wins, so everyday I can point out to people like you what a huge mistake you are making. </p>
<p>The guy makes my skin crawl, every time his mouth opens he lies. He is phony, stiff, heartless and cruel. I think his religion is a cult and quite frankly we do not need cultists and religion extremists running this country IMO. </p>
<p>I also do not think BO has done enough, but I also know that over 200 pieces of legislation were shot down by the GOP, whose stated goal was to be uncooperative and see to it he had one term. I do not find that approach or mindset to be acceptable, so I am willing to see if he starts swinging hammers as a second termer. </p>
<p>I am more comfortable with the thought of him continuing than Mitt coming in, it is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest you go volunteer at a school full time for a week.  Your questions lead me to believe that you are a believer in the nonsense political ideology that blames teachers (and I am sure: UNIONS) for the decline in American students output. I am going to tell you right now, that could not be FURTHER from the truth.

I have worked in public and private schools as well as corporate and small business environments. (Educated IT pro) and let me tell you teachers work VERY hard. They also mostly do it with more tact and decorum than any work place I have ever been outside of schools. They MIGHT have a planning period to actually grade papers, work on lessons, explore new content to augment a lesson, but more often than not, that work goes home at the end of the day. 

Most get a 30 minute lunch. For every subordinate (student) that they have, there is usually one or more parents subverting their authority, not ensuring homework gets completed, not helping students study, not getting them to school on time, not addressing the behavior issues their kid displays in class DISTRACTING and INTERRUPTING the lessons. Not feeding the kids (hungry crabby kids do not make good students) complaining to the administration over grades, expecting special treatment, and on and on. 

It is a VERY demanding, often demeaning job. Regulations require constant ongoing education, the only way to get a raise is to take more college courses at night. Cannot easily move or go to another district if you have many years of experience, budgets are cut so much schools only want to hire fresh, inexperienced (NOT GOOD YET) teachers because they can get away with paying 18-25 K for them. Tell me one other job with masters and doctorate degrees where their performance is judged by welfare recipients, luddites and garbage men? Yes, they know they will not be getting rich, but c&#039;mon, they face silly questions like your everyday.

In answer to how  teachers are accountable: You cannot. You cannot simply say here are 27 kids, if you want a raise or to keep your job they must all be at level X by the end of the year. IT JUST ISN&#039;T POSSIBLE. Too many variables the teacher cannot control. She cannot make a kid want to learn, she cannot make him not day dream, she cannot make him come to school, she cannot control all the things working against her.

What can and what do they do?  Make innovative curriculum, use non-traditional techniques to engage students. Try to educate the parents, ASK the community for help. 

Go to some schools on reading night, see how few parents and students attend. usually around %25. The teacher is often mandated curriculum, they have state mandated testing, federally mandated testing. If the teacher is fulfilling those requirements she is doing her job, she deserves to be paid. It does not EVER guarantee the final outcome of the students. Budget cuts have led to skyrocketing classroom size, a single teacher in a room full of 27 kids has less time available for individualized instruction/remediation than a teacher with 15. 

The parent &amp; students ACCOUNTABILITY is the issue, not most teacher. Americans no longer care for or value hard work, sacrifice, we want leisure and entertainment. Sure there will always be a few bad one, no matter the profession, that is the administrations role. The administration of EVERY school contains the highest paid people there, and often the least effective.

Don&#039;t even get me started on how very little we teach critical thinking skills. That needs to be changed at the state and federal level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you go volunteer at a school full time for a week.  Your questions lead me to believe that you are a believer in the nonsense political ideology that blames teachers (and I am sure: UNIONS) for the decline in American students output. I am going to tell you right now, that could not be FURTHER from the truth.</p>
<p>I have worked in public and private schools as well as corporate and small business environments. (Educated IT pro) and let me tell you teachers work VERY hard. They also mostly do it with more tact and decorum than any work place I have ever been outside of schools. They MIGHT have a planning period to actually grade papers, work on lessons, explore new content to augment a lesson, but more often than not, that work goes home at the end of the day. </p>
<p>Most get a 30 minute lunch. For every subordinate (student) that they have, there is usually one or more parents subverting their authority, not ensuring homework gets completed, not helping students study, not getting them to school on time, not addressing the behavior issues their kid displays in class DISTRACTING and INTERRUPTING the lessons. Not feeding the kids (hungry crabby kids do not make good students) complaining to the administration over grades, expecting special treatment, and on and on. </p>
<p>It is a VERY demanding, often demeaning job. Regulations require constant ongoing education, the only way to get a raise is to take more college courses at night. Cannot easily move or go to another district if you have many years of experience, budgets are cut so much schools only want to hire fresh, inexperienced (NOT GOOD YET) teachers because they can get away with paying 18-25 K for them. Tell me one other job with masters and doctorate degrees where their performance is judged by welfare recipients, luddites and garbage men? Yes, they know they will not be getting rich, but c&#8217;mon, they face silly questions like your everyday.</p>
<p>In answer to how  teachers are accountable: You cannot. You cannot simply say here are 27 kids, if you want a raise or to keep your job they must all be at level X by the end of the year. IT JUST ISN&#8217;T POSSIBLE. Too many variables the teacher cannot control. She cannot make a kid want to learn, she cannot make him not day dream, she cannot make him come to school, she cannot control all the things working against her.</p>
<p>What can and what do they do?  Make innovative curriculum, use non-traditional techniques to engage students. Try to educate the parents, ASK the community for help. </p>
<p>Go to some schools on reading night, see how few parents and students attend. usually around %25. The teacher is often mandated curriculum, they have state mandated testing, federally mandated testing. If the teacher is fulfilling those requirements she is doing her job, she deserves to be paid. It does not EVER guarantee the final outcome of the students. Budget cuts have led to skyrocketing classroom size, a single teacher in a room full of 27 kids has less time available for individualized instruction/remediation than a teacher with 15. </p>
<p>The parent &amp; students ACCOUNTABILITY is the issue, not most teacher. Americans no longer care for or value hard work, sacrifice, we want leisure and entertainment. Sure there will always be a few bad one, no matter the profession, that is the administrations role. The administration of EVERY school contains the highest paid people there, and often the least effective.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started on how very little we teach critical thinking skills. That needs to be changed at the state and federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Educating American children is a pet project?  Bailing out wall street is a pet project. Educating americas youth is the very future of this country you dolt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Educating American children is a pet project?  Bailing out wall street is a pet project. Educating americas youth is the very future of this country you dolt.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The perfect response. 

Candy, I understand how some people might get frustrated when they see Chinese workers assembling iPhones. It’s easy to think that those jobs rightly belong in America. The reality is a little more complex, but when you understand it, there’s a surprising amount of good news for American workers.

The fact is, assembling iPhones and iPads is the final step of a complex process, and is really a low-skill, low-cost kind of job. China has spent decades building much of its economy around these low-skill jobs, in part because it has such a large labor force and plenty of workers who are willing to do the work. And, frankly, here in America you wouldn’t want to try to support a family on the kind of wages a job like that would pay. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true. So I know this may sound odd when I say it, but I ask you to hear me out: I’m perfectly comfortable letting those kinds of jobs go to China or somewhere else.

In fact, some researchers at the University of California at Berkeley found that for every iPad or iPhone manufactured, Chinese workers add $10 or less to the value of an iPad or iPhone. On an iPad, they found that American workers add $162 worth of value, and on an iPhone it was more than twice as much.

In America, when we talk about manufacturing, we should be talking about advanced manufacturing jobs for highly skilled workers that require a solid education and pay wages on which you can support a family. And the fact is, there’s a lot of American work that goes into an iPad or an iPhone or a Mac.


Read more at http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/how-romney-andor-obama-should-have-answered-candy-crowleys-apple-assembly-question/#5zXecSAKPUp7wVsh.99 


We should be looking at the great things we do not the low skilled stuff we don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perfect response. </p>
<p>Candy, I understand how some people might get frustrated when they see Chinese workers assembling iPhones. It’s easy to think that those jobs rightly belong in America. The reality is a little more complex, but when you understand it, there’s a surprising amount of good news for American workers.</p>
<p>The fact is, assembling iPhones and iPads is the final step of a complex process, and is really a low-skill, low-cost kind of job. China has spent decades building much of its economy around these low-skill jobs, in part because it has such a large labor force and plenty of workers who are willing to do the work. And, frankly, here in America you wouldn’t want to try to support a family on the kind of wages a job like that would pay. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true. So I know this may sound odd when I say it, but I ask you to hear me out: I’m perfectly comfortable letting those kinds of jobs go to China or somewhere else.</p>
<p>In fact, some researchers at the University of California at Berkeley found that for every iPad or iPhone manufactured, Chinese workers add $10 or less to the value of an iPad or iPhone. On an iPad, they found that American workers add $162 worth of value, and on an iPhone it was more than twice as much.</p>
<p>In America, when we talk about manufacturing, we should be talking about advanced manufacturing jobs for highly skilled workers that require a solid education and pay wages on which you can support a family. And the fact is, there’s a lot of American work that goes into an iPad or an iPhone or a Mac.</p>
<p>Read more at <a href="http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/how-romney-andor-obama-should-have-answered-candy-crowleys-apple-assembly-question/#5zXecSAKPUp7wVsh.99" rel="nofollow">http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/how-romney-andor-obama-should-have-answered-candy-crowleys-apple-assembly-question/#5zXecSAKPUp7wVsh.99</a> </p>
<p>We should be looking at the great things we do not the low skilled stuff we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am financial analyst. I am 100% sure I have a higher intellect than you. These jobs aren&#039;t coming back. You can ignore economic reality and post stupid posts all days, but they still won&#039;t come back. 

The high standard of living isn&#039;t consumption driven. But you wouldn&#039;t know that. America is a great country and highly innovative. 

I have total responsibility for my life. I don&#039;t blame govt for my life. I have 100% control in my destiny. I believe regardless who is elected these jobs won&#039;t come back. Your response insulting me is the typical response of a person who doesn&#039;t have a credible argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am financial analyst. I am 100% sure I have a higher intellect than you. These jobs aren&#8217;t coming back. You can ignore economic reality and post stupid posts all days, but they still won&#8217;t come back. </p>
<p>The high standard of living isn&#8217;t consumption driven. But you wouldn&#8217;t know that. America is a great country and highly innovative. </p>
<p>I have total responsibility for my life. I don&#8217;t blame govt for my life. I have 100% control in my destiny. I believe regardless who is elected these jobs won&#8217;t come back. Your response insulting me is the typical response of a person who doesn&#8217;t have a credible argument.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait I thought the bailout was a combined republican and democrat policy. But you are a typical republican - don&#039;t let the facts get in the way of a good story. 

You really are a tool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait I thought the bailout was a combined republican and democrat policy. But you are a typical republican &#8211; don&#8217;t let the facts get in the way of a good story. </p>
<p>You really are a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I could have misjudged you. Do you feel you are fairly critical of both Democrats and Republicabs? Do you blame both Bush and Clinton for their roles in Sept 11 and the banking crisis or do you only blame Republicans when there are problems and only credit Democrats when things go well?

I will check out the link you sent also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I could have misjudged you. Do you feel you are fairly critical of both Democrats and Republicabs? Do you blame both Bush and Clinton for their roles in Sept 11 and the banking crisis or do you only blame Republicans when there are problems and only credit Democrats when things go well?</p>
<p>I will check out the link you sent also.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point.]]></description>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have said some harsh things in here and I&#039;ll own my words. I could be more delicate but I get very offended by the general holier than thou tone of liberal elitists standing in their lofty ivory towers pointing down at the rest of us.

I do not think it takes great intellectual dept to be a liberal political hack. There are many intellectually shallow conservatives, but on the other hand I know there are many very intelligent conservatives.

There are some liberals I respect, Steve Jobs was one but even he fought against teachers unions which are ruining California and he was very fiscally conservative with Apple.

I have been to China, and as a westerner I will admit I have difficulty telling the difference between many different Asian groups.

If my harsh words negate the credibility of my points then that&#039;s my failing. However consider the tide of liberalism I swim against where the media destroys Nixon while it protects Clinton and Obama. On this board I read how terrible Romney and the Republicabs are and how flawless Obama is.

It just gets last my point if tolerance. If I particularly said anything that offended you I&#039;m sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have said some harsh things in here and I&#8217;ll own my words. I could be more delicate but I get very offended by the general holier than thou tone of liberal elitists standing in their lofty ivory towers pointing down at the rest of us.</p>
<p>I do not think it takes great intellectual dept to be a liberal political hack. There are many intellectually shallow conservatives, but on the other hand I know there are many very intelligent conservatives.</p>
<p>There are some liberals I respect, Steve Jobs was one but even he fought against teachers unions which are ruining California and he was very fiscally conservative with Apple.</p>
<p>I have been to China, and as a westerner I will admit I have difficulty telling the difference between many different Asian groups.</p>
<p>If my harsh words negate the credibility of my points then that&#8217;s my failing. However consider the tide of liberalism I swim against where the media destroys Nixon while it protects Clinton and Obama. On this board I read how terrible Romney and the Republicabs are and how flawless Obama is.</p>
<p>It just gets last my point if tolerance. If I particularly said anything that offended you I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are an ugly old hag and that dress makes you look like a fat ugly old hag.

You know that dress doesn&#039;t flatter your curvy figure as much as some of your other dresses.

Are both of those statements the same just because they make similar points?

Does the attitude and the tone and delivery of the message count, or is the general idea behind a message the only thing that matters?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an ugly old hag and that dress makes you look like a fat ugly old hag.</p>
<p>You know that dress doesn&#8217;t flatter your curvy figure as much as some of your other dresses.</p>
<p>Are both of those statements the same just because they make similar points?</p>
<p>Does the attitude and the tone and delivery of the message count, or is the general idea behind a message the only thing that matters?</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of bagging on F10F12 or me for that matter make your own points. It&#039;s easy to tear someone else down for what they say, what do you have to add to the discussion?

I can respect that you disagree with me but at least have something to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of bagging on F10F12 or me for that matter make your own points. It&#8217;s easy to tear someone else down for what they say, what do you have to add to the discussion?</p>
<p>I can respect that you disagree with me but at least have something to say.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion the Federal government is too big, too intrusive, and too powerful. I don&#039;t know how to fix it and I&#039;m not sure it is fixable. I don&#039;t mind the rich paying a lot of taxes, but I&#039;m against income taxes because they are so invasive of our privacy. I don&#039;t have a good idea what to replace them with.

I do think that cutting Federal spending and lowering taxes is a good idea, but not if dont think lowering taxes and not cutting spending, or not raising taxes and increasing spending massively is a good idea. Fighting a war is somewhat understandable the deficit would go up, but really need to look how we treat future generation of Americans with this huge debt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion the Federal government is too big, too intrusive, and too powerful. I don&#8217;t know how to fix it and I&#8217;m not sure it is fixable. I don&#8217;t mind the rich paying a lot of taxes, but I&#8217;m against income taxes because they are so invasive of our privacy. I don&#8217;t have a good idea what to replace them with.</p>
<p>I do think that cutting Federal spending and lowering taxes is a good idea, but not if dont think lowering taxes and not cutting spending, or not raising taxes and increasing spending massively is a good idea. Fighting a war is somewhat understandable the deficit would go up, but really need to look how we treat future generation of Americans with this huge debt.</p>
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		<title>By: twimoon1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twimoon1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s your particular version of &quot;discussing the issue?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your particular version of &#8220;discussing the issue?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: twimoon1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twimoon1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be a heck of a lot more sympathetic to Muslims who are offended by insults to Mohammed if they were similarly reverential towards other religions and showed respect towards Christians, Jews, and Hindus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be a heck of a lot more sympathetic to Muslims who are offended by insults to Mohammed if they were similarly reverential towards other religions and showed respect towards Christians, Jews, and Hindus.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teachers that want to be paid more need to own up to the results of their efforts.

How do you suggest we hold teachers accountable for their students learning?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers that want to be paid more need to own up to the results of their efforts.</p>
<p>How do you suggest we hold teachers accountable for their students learning?</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tax cuts need to be balanced, if less revenues come in less needs to be spent. That&#039;s hard when you are fighting a war to answer to an attack on our soil. But there&#039;s no good excuse for the size of the deficits we ran under Bush. Obama was right to criticize him. Obama had 2 years with no opposing Republicans in the house or the senate who could stop him and he chose to use that time to double the deficit and fundamentally change healthcare in the country in a way that doctors do not like, Americans are angry about to the point if a blood letting in the house, and a historic shift in the legislature. He did not even propose a fix to immigration in 730 days.

Bush deserves blame for the mistakes he made as well as credit for the things he did right. Obama deserves some credit, but he needs to man up and stop crying snout Bush, and own his presidency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax cuts need to be balanced, if less revenues come in less needs to be spent. That&#8217;s hard when you are fighting a war to answer to an attack on our soil. But there&#8217;s no good excuse for the size of the deficits we ran under Bush. Obama was right to criticize him. Obama had 2 years with no opposing Republicans in the house or the senate who could stop him and he chose to use that time to double the deficit and fundamentally change healthcare in the country in a way that doctors do not like, Americans are angry about to the point if a blood letting in the house, and a historic shift in the legislature. He did not even propose a fix to immigration in 730 days.</p>
<p>Bush deserves blame for the mistakes he made as well as credit for the things he did right. Obama deserves some credit, but he needs to man up and stop crying snout Bush, and own his presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Center is relative. America is very much different than Europe. The way I see it, America was born as a wild and rugged frontier where there was open space and opportunity. Individuals could make their own way and make their own success. Even today there are many parts of the country with wild and open spaces. Europe is far more densely populated and has been more densely populated for a long time with a history of kings and fuedal communities. It would be hard to find a period in Europe where individual achievement was esteemed over community.

A completely different history and consequently completely different philosophy. Americans do not see things like Europe and likely will never want to.

If Europe wants to look at America through a European lens and completely misunderstand what exactly America is and what makes it uniquely great, go ahead. That doesn&#039;t necessarily mean what Europe does is wrong, only that it doesn&#039;t translate over here. 

Obama is extremely liberal for what Ameruca is and what we stand for. And no, not just on gay rights or abortion rights, although clearly he&#039;s in the left of those two issues. To me what makes him liberal is his insistence that America should apologize for what we are, and that we are nothing special, and rich and successful people are products of society and did not build their success for themselves. An apologetic and class division based world view.

His government take over of healthcare is just another example of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Center is relative. America is very much different than Europe. The way I see it, America was born as a wild and rugged frontier where there was open space and opportunity. Individuals could make their own way and make their own success. Even today there are many parts of the country with wild and open spaces. Europe is far more densely populated and has been more densely populated for a long time with a history of kings and fuedal communities. It would be hard to find a period in Europe where individual achievement was esteemed over community.</p>
<p>A completely different history and consequently completely different philosophy. Americans do not see things like Europe and likely will never want to.</p>
<p>If Europe wants to look at America through a European lens and completely misunderstand what exactly America is and what makes it uniquely great, go ahead. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean what Europe does is wrong, only that it doesn&#8217;t translate over here. </p>
<p>Obama is extremely liberal for what Ameruca is and what we stand for. And no, not just on gay rights or abortion rights, although clearly he&#8217;s in the left of those two issues. To me what makes him liberal is his insistence that America should apologize for what we are, and that we are nothing special, and rich and successful people are products of society and did not build their success for themselves. An apologetic and class division based world view.</p>
<p>His government take over of healthcare is just another example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget Fast and Furious.  This was a program supported (and now hidden) by the Obama administration that provided guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to kill Americans and hundreds of Mexicans.

What was Obama&#039;s response to the Fast and Furious question at the debate?  Oh, that&#039;s right.  He wouldn&#039;t answer it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Fast and Furious.  This was a program supported (and now hidden) by the Obama administration that provided guns to Mexican drug cartels that were used to kill Americans and hundreds of Mexicans.</p>
<p>What was Obama&#8217;s response to the Fast and Furious question at the debate?  Oh, that&#8217;s right.  He wouldn&#8217;t answer it.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other problem with the Libya was that Obama was feeding us and the world misinformation for two weeks.

Why?  Well, a couple weeks earlier, Obama was at the Democratic Convention spiking the football for killing Osama bin Laden and telling us that he had al Qaida on the run.  

Then, we had the first successful terrorist attack on U.S. sovereign territory since 9/11, and on the very anniversary and by al-Qaida-linked killers.  

This was not helpful to the Obama narrative.  He had to convince us it wasn&#039;t al Qaida.  So, he sent the US Ambassador to the UN on the Sunday talk show circuit to tell everybody it was merely movie demonstration that went out of control.  She appeared on five different shows to spin the yarn.  Obama, too, went around telling the tale.  He even said it at the UN.

Obama lied.  People died.  It&#039;s a fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other problem with the Libya was that Obama was feeding us and the world misinformation for two weeks.</p>
<p>Why?  Well, a couple weeks earlier, Obama was at the Democratic Convention spiking the football for killing Osama bin Laden and telling us that he had al Qaida on the run.  </p>
<p>Then, we had the first successful terrorist attack on U.S. sovereign territory since 9/11, and on the very anniversary and by al-Qaida-linked killers.  </p>
<p>This was not helpful to the Obama narrative.  He had to convince us it wasn&#8217;t al Qaida.  So, he sent the US Ambassador to the UN on the Sunday talk show circuit to tell everybody it was merely movie demonstration that went out of control.  She appeared on five different shows to spin the yarn.  Obama, too, went around telling the tale.  He even said it at the UN.</p>
<p>Obama lied.  People died.  It&#8217;s a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You call us greedy and demand that we open our wallets to give our hard-earned money for your pet project.
You are the greedy one.  Get lost!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call us greedy and demand that we open our wallets to give our hard-earned money for your pet project.<br />
You are the greedy one.  Get lost!</p>
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		<title>By: joebloggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joebloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@twilightmoon:  You accuse me of being &quot;incapable of rational thought.&quot;  You may disagree with my thoughts and in particular my politics, but no honest and reasonable person could look at my posts just on this particular board and say they are all irrational.  That means you are either dishonest, unreasonable, or both.  Which is it?  
As for Clinton&#039;s attempts to get bin Laden, I suggest you educate yourself here.   http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/clinton-passed-on-killing-bin-laden/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@twilightmoon:  You accuse me of being &#8220;incapable of rational thought.&#8221;  You may disagree with my thoughts and in particular my politics, but no honest and reasonable person could look at my posts just on this particular board and say they are all irrational.  That means you are either dishonest, unreasonable, or both.  Which is it?<br />
As for Clinton&#8217;s attempts to get bin Laden, I suggest you educate yourself here.   <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/clinton-passed-on-killing-bin-laden/" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/clinton-passed-on-killing-bin-laden/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joebloggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joebloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umm.  Hate to break it to you, wmd4, but Romney is all in favor of social based wealth redistribution.  Just on September 23 this year he said his Medicare plan revolved around giving higher benefits to low income people and lower benefits to high income people.  
Socialism at its core!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm.  Hate to break it to you, wmd4, but Romney is all in favor of social based wealth redistribution.  Just on September 23 this year he said his Medicare plan revolved around giving higher benefits to low income people and lower benefits to high income people.<br />
Socialism at its core!!</p>
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		<title>By: NCG598</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NCG598]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to assume you are thinking along some party dogma. If you think the solution is money, maybe you can double your contribution blindly to the cause. But, by giving teacher more time and reducing cost per sstudent allows more supplies. We are well aware the school system will blindly spend money with actually helping the students. Maybe by allowing systems to provide constant checks of class work and automac my provide feedback to which students need help would help they would not ask for or hide in embarrassment. But, get off the political crap and look for solutions. Throwing money at a broken machine hurts the students and teachers. You, my weak minded friend, are the problem. Look at our major networks and see what information is gathered and how it &quot; helps&quot; them provide more precise help or services with results. I hate you political hacks. A lot of words with little thought. And yes, we need to rid the school system of the deadwood and lazy of teachers. If they are so brilliant, they should have no problem changing careers... Right? Protect a bad teacher and how many innocent students do you harm?  Think a little!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to assume you are thinking along some party dogma. If you think the solution is money, maybe you can double your contribution blindly to the cause. But, by giving teacher more time and reducing cost per sstudent allows more supplies. We are well aware the school system will blindly spend money with actually helping the students. Maybe by allowing systems to provide constant checks of class work and automac my provide feedback to which students need help would help they would not ask for or hide in embarrassment. But, get off the political crap and look for solutions. Throwing money at a broken machine hurts the students and teachers. You, my weak minded friend, are the problem. Look at our major networks and see what information is gathered and how it &#8221; helps&#8221; them provide more precise help or services with results. I hate you political hacks. A lot of words with little thought. And yes, we need to rid the school system of the deadwood and lazy of teachers. If they are so brilliant, they should have no problem changing careers&#8230; Right? Protect a bad teacher and how many innocent students do you harm?  Think a little!</p>
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		<title>By: Tessellator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tessellator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And... what I want to know... is where did the story about it being a protest over a video tape come from?

If that story was thought up by Obama&#039;s campaign spinmeisters and not actually &quot;bad intel&quot; as was claimed and
then told to the american people AND the UN by obama (and his cabinet) they we have a extremely serious situation here.

But of course the media, normally charged with being the watchdogs of political crimes and misdoing, are nothing more than the lapdogs of this president. And so aren&#039;t even asking &quot;excuse Mr President where did the &quot;story&quot; you told in the rose garden the morning after the attack come from... specifically?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230; what I want to know&#8230; is where did the story about it being a protest over a video tape come from?</p>
<p>If that story was thought up by Obama&#8217;s campaign spinmeisters and not actually &#8220;bad intel&#8221; as was claimed and<br />
then told to the american people AND the UN by obama (and his cabinet) they we have a extremely serious situation here.</p>
<p>But of course the media, normally charged with being the watchdogs of political crimes and misdoing, are nothing more than the lapdogs of this president. And so aren&#8217;t even asking &#8220;excuse Mr President where did the &#8220;story&#8221; you told in the rose garden the morning after the attack come from&#8230; specifically?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you say things like &#039;average clueless liberal brainwashed idiot.&#039;, don&#039;t you lose credibility right then and there? You segregate and indicate they are all the same in a particular group. 
Are you the type of person that says all chines people look alike and are all named Wong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say things like &#8216;average clueless liberal brainwashed idiot.&#8217;, don&#8217;t you lose credibility right then and there? You segregate and indicate they are all the same in a particular group.<br />
Are you the type of person that says all chines people look alike and are all named Wong?</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corruption knows NO political party. Our version of a socialist is what you would call a communist. Only God knows what you would call out communist...

ANyway, Obama is what we consider to be a red conservative, basically dead center. I find it funny that anyone would call him a &#039;liberal&#039; unless the reason for the label is ONLY pro-choice and in favour of gay rights (which I doubt).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption knows NO political party. Our version of a socialist is what you would call a communist. Only God knows what you would call out communist&#8230;</p>
<p>ANyway, Obama is what we consider to be a red conservative, basically dead center. I find it funny that anyone would call him a &#8216;liberal&#8217; unless the reason for the label is ONLY pro-choice and in favour of gay rights (which I doubt).</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t let Bush off the hook but it is a fact that Clinton let him go more than once, and gutted the CIA and crippled our ability to share intelligence between agencies.

I&#039;m willing to bet it is also a fact that you are incapable of rational thought or blaming Clinton or any democrat for his role in Sept 11 attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t let Bush off the hook but it is a fact that Clinton let him go more than once, and gutted the CIA and crippled our ability to share intelligence between agencies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet it is also a fact that you are incapable of rational thought or blaming Clinton or any democrat for his role in Sept 11 attack.</p>
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		<title>By: joebloggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joebloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@hoffbegone:  There you go again, selectively quoting.  Obama said THOSE [low paying manufacturing] jobs aren&#039;t coming back to America.  Instead, he wants high paying tech and skilled manufacturing jobs.  Which requires education.  Which requires teachers.  Romney is on the record as saying he will cut the number of teachers.  That is, until he said at the first debate that he loves teachers.  
So many Republicans haven&#039;t yet worked out that Romney will say what he thinks his audience wants to hear.  The 47% remark? At first he defended it.  17 days later he said it was totally wrong.  At the first debate he said his health plan will cover pre-existing conditions.  That was walked back only 1 day later.  He was &quot;severely conservative&quot; in the primaries.  Now he&#039;s a moderate republican.  He&#039;s against bailouts.  Except when Bain Capital got one (and blackmailed the government to accepting only 10cents on the dollar repayment).  He was going to cut taxes for everyone; now his cuts are not for the rich. His policies would have resulted in the complete collapse and breakup of GM and Chrysler.  But now he takes credit for their rescue.  In the primaries he said he was against contraception. Until yesterday, when all of a sudden he&#039;s for it.  He was pro-choice, then pro-life, then pro-choice, now pro-life again.  He was never a hunter except he was always a hunter.  He supported the assault weapons ban until he wanted the NRA&#039;s vote, when he claimed he doesn&#039;t support any gun legislation.  He criticized a cut in capital gains tax as &quot;a tax cut for fat cats.&quot;  Then he said it should be reduced to zero.  He says he&#039;s against the health care personal mandate except he introduced one in MA and praised Israel&#039;s only a couple of months ago. In 1994 he said it was not his desire to join the military and go to Vietnam. In the primaries this year he said that he longed to have been in Vietnam serving his country.
There has never been in this country a presidential candidate who has changed so many positions so many times.  And that&#039;s BEFORE he gets elected.  Think how much he&#039;ll flip flop when he&#039;s facing the pressure of actually making a difficult decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hoffbegone:  There you go again, selectively quoting.  Obama said THOSE [low paying manufacturing] jobs aren&#8217;t coming back to America.  Instead, he wants high paying tech and skilled manufacturing jobs.  Which requires education.  Which requires teachers.  Romney is on the record as saying he will cut the number of teachers.  That is, until he said at the first debate that he loves teachers.<br />
So many Republicans haven&#8217;t yet worked out that Romney will say what he thinks his audience wants to hear.  The 47% remark? At first he defended it.  17 days later he said it was totally wrong.  At the first debate he said his health plan will cover pre-existing conditions.  That was walked back only 1 day later.  He was &#8220;severely conservative&#8221; in the primaries.  Now he&#8217;s a moderate republican.  He&#8217;s against bailouts.  Except when Bain Capital got one (and blackmailed the government to accepting only 10cents on the dollar repayment).  He was going to cut taxes for everyone; now his cuts are not for the rich. His policies would have resulted in the complete collapse and breakup of GM and Chrysler.  But now he takes credit for their rescue.  In the primaries he said he was against contraception. Until yesterday, when all of a sudden he&#8217;s for it.  He was pro-choice, then pro-life, then pro-choice, now pro-life again.  He was never a hunter except he was always a hunter.  He supported the assault weapons ban until he wanted the NRA&#8217;s vote, when he claimed he doesn&#8217;t support any gun legislation.  He criticized a cut in capital gains tax as &#8220;a tax cut for fat cats.&#8221;  Then he said it should be reduced to zero.  He says he&#8217;s against the health care personal mandate except he introduced one in MA and praised Israel&#8217;s only a couple of months ago. In 1994 he said it was not his desire to join the military and go to Vietnam. In the primaries this year he said that he longed to have been in Vietnam serving his country.<br />
There has never been in this country a presidential candidate who has changed so many positions so many times.  And that&#8217;s BEFORE he gets elected.  Think how much he&#8217;ll flip flop when he&#8217;s facing the pressure of actually making a difficult decision.</p>
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		<title>By: joebloggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joebloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Twilightmoon:  The non partisan economists all agree that the biggest components of the Federal deficit are the Bush tax cuts.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&amp;id=3036

&quot;Had President Bush not cut taxes while simultaneously prosecuting two foreign wars and adopting other programs without paying for them, the current deficit would be only 4.7 percent of gross domestic product this year, instead of the eye-catching 11.2 percent—despite the weak economy and the costly efforts taken to restore it. In 2010, the deficit would be 3.2 percent instead of 9.6 percent.&quot;
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/report/2009/08/25/6594/whos-to-blame-for-the-deficit-numbers/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twilightmoon:  The non partisan economists all agree that the biggest components of the Federal deficit are the Bush tax cuts.<br />
<a href="http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&#038;id=3036" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&#038;id=3036</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Had President Bush not cut taxes while simultaneously prosecuting two foreign wars and adopting other programs without paying for them, the current deficit would be only 4.7 percent of gross domestic product this year, instead of the eye-catching 11.2 percent—despite the weak economy and the costly efforts taken to restore it. In 2010, the deficit would be 3.2 percent instead of 9.6 percent.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/report/2009/08/25/6594/whos-to-blame-for-the-deficit-numbers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/report/2009/08/25/6594/whos-to-blame-for-the-deficit-numbers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joebloggs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joebloggs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s interesting, twilight.  Because Romney made the exact same point that Obama did, not one week later.  From Romney&#039;s July 18 speech in Ohio:  &quot;I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teachers, the people that provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help.&quot;
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-makes-obamas-own-case-for-public-investment.php

Tell me how that message is any different from Obama&#039;s point that the person who built a business didn&#039;t build the infrastructure that is essential for that business to succeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting, twilight.  Because Romney made the exact same point that Obama did, not one week later.  From Romney&#8217;s July 18 speech in Ohio:  &#8220;I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teachers, the people that provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-makes-obamas-own-case-for-public-investment.php" rel="nofollow">http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/romney-makes-obamas-own-case-for-public-investment.php</a></p>
<p>Tell me how that message is any different from Obama&#8217;s point that the person who built a business didn&#8217;t build the infrastructure that is essential for that business to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People that believe in the power of the individual to prosper, for the human spirit to be unleashed and unchained to government, people that believe in the American Dream to work hard and build a life for yourself, and people who think America represents the greatest achievement of mankind and is exceptional and special are Republicans and you are saying that we are exactly the same as a group that forces women to cower under black sheets in the hot sun or be executed, a group that brags about shooting a 14 year old girl in the head because she dared speak up for women being able to learn and be educated.

You are far more despicable than the average clueless liberal brainwashed idiot.

You know someone has no salient point when they bring up Hitler. The Taliban is the new Hitler. I doubt you have studied much history, you are beyond ignorant, repulsive and offensive.

The fact that &quot;Truth&quot; agreed with you pretty much confirms that he is just as ignorant, bigoted and repulsive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that believe in the power of the individual to prosper, for the human spirit to be unleashed and unchained to government, people that believe in the American Dream to work hard and build a life for yourself, and people who think America represents the greatest achievement of mankind and is exceptional and special are Republicans and you are saying that we are exactly the same as a group that forces women to cower under black sheets in the hot sun or be executed, a group that brags about shooting a 14 year old girl in the head because she dared speak up for women being able to learn and be educated.</p>
<p>You are far more despicable than the average clueless liberal brainwashed idiot.</p>
<p>You know someone has no salient point when they bring up Hitler. The Taliban is the new Hitler. I doubt you have studied much history, you are beyond ignorant, repulsive and offensive.</p>
<p>The fact that &#8220;Truth&#8221; agreed with you pretty much confirms that he is just as ignorant, bigoted and repulsive.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope we never have to find out what your version of a socialist is. I despise the version that we call socialist enough. I&#039;m willing to believe in this vast world that there are far worse versions of human misery and corruption, America is a great country because we won&#039;t tolerate it here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope we never have to find out what your version of a socialist is. I despise the version that we call socialist enough. I&#8217;m willing to believe in this vast world that there are far worse versions of human misery and corruption, America is a great country because we won&#8217;t tolerate it here.</p>
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		<title>By: tessellator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tessellator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am afraid you simply don&#039;t understand.

You can&#039;t blockade or legislate penalties on business to keep them in the US (besides being immoral (do you think you are better or more deserving than Canadians or south americans? I don&#039;t) Besides it just don&#039;t work (as is evidenced by current migrations)

Why would I build something in the US and pay  a minimum 35% of my earnings to the government in tax when I could build it in canada and pay 15%? (not to mention enduring five to tenfold the regulation and red tape)

The way to keep business in the US is to lower the cost of doing business, and stop limit all the federal (most of it nearly useless) legislation and regulations. This would simultaneously make them (US businesses) more competitive in the export markets. Simply erecting walls to limit ability to source the most efficient manufacturing tend to raise prices and make us less competitive in export markets.

Obama has over taxed and over regulated business (to the point where it costs significantly more to manufacture here in the US) His method to offset this is government subsidies.
He truly believes big business and &quot;profits&quot; are evil.
Obama even said (in the debate) that he wanted to tax the money US companies made overseas (which would simply force international companies to move their home offices to a place like Canada) We currently have an over taxed, over regulated and downright hostile environment to attempt to do business in. That needs to stop now. The last thing we need to do is to erect more barriers, more laws, more red tape, and levy even more penalties on businesses. (like outsourcing penalties)

Rather, what the US needs to to, is make the US a competitive place to conduct you business (with other countries (like Canada)).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am afraid you simply don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t blockade or legislate penalties on business to keep them in the US (besides being immoral (do you think you are better or more deserving than Canadians or south americans? I don&#8217;t) Besides it just don&#8217;t work (as is evidenced by current migrations)</p>
<p>Why would I build something in the US and pay  a minimum 35% of my earnings to the government in tax when I could build it in canada and pay 15%? (not to mention enduring five to tenfold the regulation and red tape)</p>
<p>The way to keep business in the US is to lower the cost of doing business, and stop limit all the federal (most of it nearly useless) legislation and regulations. This would simultaneously make them (US businesses) more competitive in the export markets. Simply erecting walls to limit ability to source the most efficient manufacturing tend to raise prices and make us less competitive in export markets.</p>
<p>Obama has over taxed and over regulated business (to the point where it costs significantly more to manufacture here in the US) His method to offset this is government subsidies.<br />
He truly believes big business and &#8220;profits&#8221; are evil.<br />
Obama even said (in the debate) that he wanted to tax the money US companies made overseas (which would simply force international companies to move their home offices to a place like Canada) We currently have an over taxed, over regulated and downright hostile environment to attempt to do business in. That needs to stop now. The last thing we need to do is to erect more barriers, more laws, more red tape, and levy even more penalties on businesses. (like outsourcing penalties)</p>
<p>Rather, what the US needs to to, is make the US a competitive place to conduct you business (with other countries (like Canada)).</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no fan of Bush&#039;s huge deficits, but we were attacked and we did have to respond to that which costs money. Even with 2 wars we did not have half the deficits we have under Obama. Loopholes need to be cut at the same time as the tax cuts, not before.

Why only focus on taxes and loopholes and no mention of cutting spending?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of Bush&#8217;s huge deficits, but we were attacked and we did have to respond to that which costs money. Even with 2 wars we did not have half the deficits we have under Obama. Loopholes need to be cut at the same time as the tax cuts, not before.</p>
<p>Why only focus on taxes and loopholes and no mention of cutting spending?</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree with you on a lot of things but I agree that the war on drugs is a disaster (though I&#039;m not sure if ending it would really save much money). I agree that we should cut way back on foreign aid and especially to hostile countries like Egypt and Palistan. I am not against some cuts in the military but I&#039;d want to be careful there. I hate the TSA probably more than you do but I doubt shutting them down would save much money. The only other war I&#039;d consider important or necessary would be to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Other than that I would favor less military action and focus on full energy independence.

One thing I never hear anyone talk about regarding independence is hydrogen. There&#039;s an abundant supply in the vast oceans that could be collected and it could entirely replace gasoline in less than 20 years if we put converted effort behind it. That would be cheaper in the long run and better for the environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with you on a lot of things but I agree that the war on drugs is a disaster (though I&#8217;m not sure if ending it would really save much money). I agree that we should cut way back on foreign aid and especially to hostile countries like Egypt and Palistan. I am not against some cuts in the military but I&#8217;d want to be careful there. I hate the TSA probably more than you do but I doubt shutting them down would save much money. The only other war I&#8217;d consider important or necessary would be to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Other than that I would favor less military action and focus on full energy independence.</p>
<p>One thing I never hear anyone talk about regarding independence is hydrogen. There&#8217;s an abundant supply in the vast oceans that could be collected and it could entirely replace gasoline in less than 20 years if we put converted effort behind it. That would be cheaper in the long run and better for the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard Obsmas entire quote in context several times, it&#039;s not really much better (or more true) than the so-called misrepresented version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Obsmas entire quote in context several times, it&#8217;s not really much better (or more true) than the so-called misrepresented version.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The statement &quot;he is a moderate republican&quot; is ambiguous but it seems to line up with Obama as he is the most recently mentioned individual to the ambiguous pronoun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statement &#8220;he is a moderate republican&#8221; is ambiguous but it seems to line up with Obama as he is the most recently mentioned individual to the ambiguous pronoun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ditchdoc68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ditchdoc68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This moderator went after the Tea Party claiming they were racist. She&#039;s a well known liberal media hack. But unlike the previous moderators who were willing to let the debates take place between the candidates she interjected herself and lied on Obamas behalf and let the matter drop. 

We still hear about Watergate where no one died because the president was a republican. Obama is democrat so 4 Americans can be assassinated under his watch with almost no security while there&#039;s a marine detachment in Paris. No one gets to question why, nor ask why it took 3 weeks to arrive at the location to gather what little evidence there was still left, nor why they had to beg for security and it was denied. All because Obama is a democrat, and this is why a bias leftist lying moderator is a serious problem.

This is not paranoia. Watergate wasn&#039;t paranoia it was a crime. This is even worse since people died. That people on the left are not outraged shows how little integrity liberals and democrats have: none.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This moderator went after the Tea Party claiming they were racist. She&#8217;s a well known liberal media hack. But unlike the previous moderators who were willing to let the debates take place between the candidates she interjected herself and lied on Obamas behalf and let the matter drop. </p>
<p>We still hear about Watergate where no one died because the president was a republican. Obama is democrat so 4 Americans can be assassinated under his watch with almost no security while there&#8217;s a marine detachment in Paris. No one gets to question why, nor ask why it took 3 weeks to arrive at the location to gather what little evidence there was still left, nor why they had to beg for security and it was denied. All because Obama is a democrat, and this is why a bias leftist lying moderator is a serious problem.</p>
<p>This is not paranoia. Watergate wasn&#8217;t paranoia it was a crime. This is even worse since people died. That people on the left are not outraged shows how little integrity liberals and democrats have: none.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not paranoid at all, just offended that one side completely dominates the discussion and people that are not leftist democrats have to work hard to get real information that&#039;s not filtered through liberal bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not paranoid at all, just offended that one side completely dominates the discussion and people that are not leftist democrats have to work hard to get real information that&#8217;s not filtered through liberal bias.</p>
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		<title>By: twilightmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twilightmoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No the moderator and Obama lied. He did mention terrorism but he absolutely did not say the Libya attack was a terrorist attack right away or even within the first several weeks.

Bush bears some responsibility for Sept 11, as does Clinton who let Obama go several times and idiotically tried to deal with international terrorism through the woefully inadequate criminal courts.

The problem with the assassination in Libya of our ambassador is that it was preventable and it was predictable that there would be an attack on Sept 11 on an embassy in an unstable country with known and active al Quada cells, and Obama or someone under him refused to adequately secure the consulate there, for reasons that still haven&#039;t been explained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No the moderator and Obama lied. He did mention terrorism but he absolutely did not say the Libya attack was a terrorist attack right away or even within the first several weeks.</p>
<p>Bush bears some responsibility for Sept 11, as does Clinton who let Obama go several times and idiotically tried to deal with international terrorism through the woefully inadequate criminal courts.</p>
<p>The problem with the assassination in Libya of our ambassador is that it was preventable and it was predictable that there would be an attack on Sept 11 on an embassy in an unstable country with known and active al Quada cells, and Obama or someone under him refused to adequately secure the consulate there, for reasons that still haven&#8217;t been explained.</p>
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		<title>By: dddd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dddd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[without mentioning Hon Hai or TSMC or the entire supply chain from LCDs to Batteries to Chips running through Asia, it is hard to honestly address this issue. FoxConn/HonHai are the master machine makers of the world... it takes billions and billions in Capital to duplicate just the assembly line... nevermind the supply chain on the other side of the globe making JIT assembly impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without mentioning Hon Hai or TSMC or the entire supply chain from LCDs to Batteries to Chips running through Asia, it is hard to honestly address this issue. FoxConn/HonHai are the master machine makers of the world&#8230; it takes billions and billions in Capital to duplicate just the assembly line&#8230; nevermind the supply chain on the other side of the globe making JIT assembly impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessellator</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tessellator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kingmel it is obvious (to me) that you have never build a business.

He DID say that. Furthermore It illuminates his (socialist) way of looking at things (To each according to need. From each according to ability. Sound like a good idea to you kingmel)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kingmel it is obvious (to me) that you have never build a business.</p>
<p>He DID say that. Furthermore It illuminates his (socialist) way of looking at things (To each according to need. From each according to ability. Sound like a good idea to you kingmel)</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong as usual..

Romney wants Keystone Pipeline, last night he tried tying it to American Refineries and lower fuel prices. The facts are it is an EXPORT pipeline to move canadian product to the gulf for EXPORT. IE NOT for North America. This will undercut American exports and likely RAISE the price of gas.

Turn off your tv, do a little research. Want a link?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong as usual..</p>
<p>Romney wants Keystone Pipeline, last night he tried tying it to American Refineries and lower fuel prices. The facts are it is an EXPORT pipeline to move canadian product to the gulf for EXPORT. IE NOT for North America. This will undercut American exports and likely RAISE the price of gas.</p>
<p>Turn off your tv, do a little research. Want a link?</p>
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		<title>By: Tessellator</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/10/17/romney-and-obama-spar-over-apples-mac-ipad-and-iphone-manufacturing-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-1087274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tessellator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No I am afraid it is you who don&#039;t understand

Affirmative action≠non-discriminatory

Affirmative action=quotas 
(which should be illegal based on non-discriminatory law.)

It has been shown to you by example (that Romney on his own thought they might not be giving woman a fair chance that is non-discriminatory not affirmative action) and DID something about it, and then idiots like breeze attempt to mock him for it. I&#039;m sorry you (and breeze) are just clueless
You are eyes wide shut my friend]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am afraid it is you who don&#8217;t understand</p>
<p>Affirmative action≠non-discriminatory</p>
<p>Affirmative action=quotas<br />
(which should be illegal based on non-discriminatory law.)</p>
<p>It has been shown to you by example (that Romney on his own thought they might not be giving woman a fair chance that is non-discriminatory not affirmative action) and DID something about it, and then idiots like breeze attempt to mock him for it. I&#8217;m sorry you (and breeze) are just clueless<br />
You are eyes wide shut my friend</p>
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