So Google has flaws too. I honestly didn’t expect to find an example that easily.

——RM

Then, when I finally got to the address where I was supposed to be, I did Google maps again to that address and it wanted to take me from the proper place back to some house again.

This was 6 months ago. Google Maps may have less flaws than Apple’s Maps presently, but let’s not pretend it’s flawless.

Open your eyes. The massive reporting of the poor map ap seems to have gone unnoticed by you. Just because you’re in a part of the world where all is good, doesn’t mean the rest of the planet will have the same results.

Google has been the ultimate sociopathic thief. I don’t care if maps never works flawlessly on Apple products, as long as I don’t have to use Google and have them collecting every scrap of information they can about my private life so they can sell it to the highest bidder, or roll over and deliver it to any government that demands it. Some things are more important than convenience.

And BTW, when was the last time Google directed you 30 miles out of your way? I’d be surprised if it was more than 30 days ago.

All I said was you should not globalize your complaint with “all” which unfairly includes people like me who have no beef, and you should give Apple a little slack as they tackle something extremely hard. Google has done an exceptional job but no one has done this flawlessly, and everyone will benefit if Apple can pull this off and there is some competition in this area.

But in the US you are likely going to be pleased with how Apple did. Good luck and keep us posted.

As far as being rude I have tried to be civil to non troll posts on here. I won’t say I have been perfect but I’m willing to appologize if I do something unjustified.

I much prefer the concise, plain language and focused take in a USA Today article, which states that:

“. . . many users said the new Maps is inferior. Chief complaints: wrong directions and the lack of local transit information.” And that’s all.

I haven’t experienced wrong directions, but I do think the lack of transit information needs to be rectified.

Missing features? I’ve got the same experience with Google Maps. In fact, just about a week or so ago, I used Google Maps to locate an address, and a major highway in my area was completely missing.

It is difficult enough without you contributing snide comments to feed your inflated ego.  If you have something to contribute, then please do.  If you don’t, then do everyone a favor and go ahead to the next article.

Vector is without a doubt the best way to make a map work on a mobile device.

Hey asshole, if you shut your fucking mouth, we’d all be better off without your batshit inane shit.

This is funny in the meantime -> http://thumbs1.thewall.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fp.twimg.com%2FA3TJjCqCMAAAj6l.jpg&width=620&height=&signature=869d04fa5d886820f4c571989ddbc648

Now we know why the android people are so internally thwarted – it’s not about actually getting places… it’s about sitting over their parents garage and trolling apple boards.

Things only are great or they suck???
“There is no argument and excuse, it just suck!”

So your english sucks, right? argument or excuse and it should be sucks, right. No excuse or argument for your third grade english?? The comment is full of this really poor english.

Hey, like it or not, it is what it is. It will get better. After all, before there were 20-30 people testing maps. Now there are going to be millions. I am sure it will get better. Hmmm, come back next year, same time, same bat channel and see how things are going. LOL

As for why Apple went with the new maps, I just have to say remember when Steve said…. “I am going thermonuclear war on android (google)”. With Siri, maps, iCloud, music, videos, etc Apple is slowly moving the money source from Google. And as more and more money moves toward Apple in hardware, there will be less and less for Google.

And what happens if Samsung gets tired of being jerked around by Android? What if they go to that Baidu thing???

Just a thought.

For those that don’t have a direct immediate need of good maps, don’t use it day-to-day, or the features override the data in priority with belief that data will improve over time and Google maps makes data errors too, its certainly understandable that this group won’t see the Maps app issue as a big failure or concern. Rightly so.

Unfortunately, the users of the iPhone aren’t a homogeneous group. Among us is the group where the Map app for a variety of reasons may be as essential a day-to-day item as phone calling or email or whatever else and the map data may be much more important than new features or functions…when I type in an address it needs to go to the right place first time whether there is a turn-by-turn capability or not. This group can include students going to their first job interview, small business people in the field that go to different client locations for the first time every day (delivery, appraisal, home inspection, delivery, home care, cleaning, etc), people on vacation, visiting, or moving to a new location and trying to find their way around, etc. And the variety of available map data for more than addresses along with the variety of ways to easily get to that data (i.e. link directly from email info to map) and alternate means to examine the data to verify where you are going (satellite pic with good detail, streetview type functions, etc) and not having to pop into a Web browser or a variety of secondary apps (sometimes even more than one) to use maps to find a place only increases this growth in dependence on the reliability of map data to “find” where you want to go and it working properly and neatly (as in Apple’s “it just works”). This group has adopted to this way of doing things, so its not frivolous to them whether it works or not…they need it to work “now” and to continue to work “now” since its been working fine since “then” and they’ve structured their way of working/playing/traveling/etc to that capability just the same as so many have structured the way they socialize to integrate social networking media into their daily lives. Some can put down social media, but you can’t deny it or turn it off suddenly with it being so prevalent, it is what it is.

And to take the social media example one more step, there are those that structure their business, advertising, interactions, scheduling, etc around that…well, the same goes to businesses that just like the old “presence in the phone book” idea, have structured themselves to be visible where the majority of map and location searches happen, in this case between Android and the old iOS pre-6, was Google.

So keep those groups in mind and now picture Apple walks in and basically says “hey, we have a new functionality/capability for maps for you but in the process the data is going to suck big time in many areas and your collective experience is going to move it up from, lets say, 10% error to 70-90% depending on area in getting the address right the first time. And by the way, you no longer have half decent satellite images or street view or equivalent to help resolve questionable address results, etc”.

So to take one section of this group as an example, you are a small business person that works in the field and you can’t find your clients anymore…you’re gonna be ticked if you upgraded you software as your device has now become a brick in terms of the functionality you need and use everyday, and you’re gonna hold off upgrading your device even if you didn’t upgrade your software on your old one.

Take this further, you are now waiting to see what Apple does in response to this bricking of your functionality. If you managed to keep your old device on iOS 5 you still have the old functionality, but now depending on Apple’s moves you may or may not consider upgrading devices in the near future. If you upgraded your device’s software or bought the new device, now you are in an urgent response point where if Apple doesn’t move quickly, you are having to return the device or buy a new one like Android fast to replace that missing functionality.

One more step only, promise. Now take this group that lives and breathes this functionality to the same level as some do social media, and they are facing a frozen software ecosystem where they can’t upgrade ever or they lose their maps, or they have had or are having to trend to another device from another ecosystem like Android, Winphone, etc. A large % of this group probably uses more than one device from the same ecosystem (for Apple that might mean iOS devices, Macbooks, iMacs, etc). This group tends to prefer a nice tidy ecosystem of compatible devices that don’t requrie a lot of work to keep them talking to each other…if they have to replace one device, over time they are going to trend to replace other devices along the same decision lines.

This too could be a long term hurtful trend to Apple. Apple already lived through this one with iCloud that I lived through in a small business user sense…you could use it in iOS but it did not play well with the Mac OSX or Windows environment for continuity of use and info right out of the box. So people in this same group looking for cloud solutions went elsewhere with their decisions where there were more cohesive architectures (MS Office/Hotmail/Skydrive, Google equivalent, Dropbox plus any email service and office apps, etc) and they relegated iCloud to the same status as Apple Maps flyover…neat, but not much use beyond a little bit of novelty. And this group tends to not to wait a year or to look back at that functionality a year later as they may have waited patiently for it to first come out the first time and expected Apple’s “it just works” to apply…when it didn’t, time to move on, no second chances as we need it to “just work” in the now, not the far future because we have decisions to make on what we are going to use full-time in the “now” after waiting to this point of time when the later became “now” once already.

Confusing isn’t it? LOL…but the essence is if you need something to just work in the now, promising it will work later and by the way your old functionality no longer works in the now is a great way to send people elsewhere without any intention of returning because they have started down another path and have no interest in reversing course yet again after trust is broken.

Anyway, all of this to say its one concern no one seemed to be addressing…those that live by a certain type and level of functionality that is taken away…guess what, they have to move on and aren’t likely to wait around for the later as they can’t afford to if that functionality impacts them too severely in the now.

Your comment reminds me of the logic used when they tossed accused witches—tied up—into a river as a ”test”: they were proven a witch if they surfaced and were then burned alive; they were proven not to be a witch if they drowned.

All that’s missing here is the visual imagery of you taking a hit of snuff up your nose as you sigh and walk away from the bubbles on the river’s surface after pretending you speak for everyone else.

Keep that in mind when you post your bullshit next time.

There must be so many to choose from so go ahead and list out some other examples.

I can get to an Apple Store in a half hour. Then I can plug in some endpoints for which iOS 5 Google Maps does a poor job of routing (as well as some routes that it does well) and compare.

I’m not exactly a fan of Google Maps; it gave me a totally brain damaged route south to the Providence, RI airport and still suggests a route to one of my client’s two buildings that would entail doing a jack-knife U-turn up a confluence-like road (after driving right by where one should make a simple left turn). I’d dread the notion of using something that was worse than that.

It will be interesting to see “faster” and “responsive” too; I can’t quite imagine that because I must have gotten used to what I am currently using.