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	<title>Comments on: American Airlines first commercial carrier with FAA approval to use Apple iPads in all phases of flight</title>
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		<title>By: kwj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Observer,

I credit you sir for being willing to see both sides of the issue.  The safety and caution aspect is lost on many travelers, who value convenience and comfort above all else.  The subject is something I&#039;m personnally passionate about because my job is ensuring aircraft equipment is first and foremost safe for the aircrew and passengers.

And believe me, I&#039;ve seen plenty interactions occur during testing that noone ever predicted.  I&#039;m convinced RF energy is part voodoo, and that&#039;s with an understanding of the physics involved.  Anyone who says they can predict interactions, or conclusively determine there won&#039;t be any without testing first, is as you say, &quot;blowing shite out their arss&quot;.

And how long an inconvenience is the FAA currently requiring passengers endure?  Maybe 10 minutes at takeoff, and a few more while in the landing sequence.  That&#039;s not much to ask for increased air travel safety.  Not by a long shot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Observer,</p>
<p>I credit you sir for being willing to see both sides of the issue.  The safety and caution aspect is lost on many travelers, who value convenience and comfort above all else.  The subject is something I&#8217;m personnally passionate about because my job is ensuring aircraft equipment is first and foremost safe for the aircrew and passengers.</p>
<p>And believe me, I&#8217;ve seen plenty interactions occur during testing that noone ever predicted.  I&#8217;m convinced RF energy is part voodoo, and that&#8217;s with an understanding of the physics involved.  Anyone who says they can predict interactions, or conclusively determine there won&#8217;t be any without testing first, is as you say, &#8220;blowing shite out their arss&#8221;.</p>
<p>And how long an inconvenience is the FAA currently requiring passengers endure?  Maybe 10 minutes at takeoff, and a few more while in the landing sequence.  That&#8217;s not much to ask for increased air travel safety.  Not by a long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+100

kwj, you are spot on and you do realize that most of the people commenting on this site are just blowing shite out their arss. 

I would add to your comment: 
&quot;You might be willing to risk your own life on it but what about your children&#039;s, parents, friends and neighbors lives?&quot; 
How about: 
How much would you pay for risk insurance and would you be willing to sign a release that you, or any family members, could not sue the airline in the event of a crash?

Seems like turning them off at take-off and landing is a small price to pay for some additional safety to me but what do I know, I&#039;m not invincible like the other people commenting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+100</p>
<p>kwj, you are spot on and you do realize that most of the people commenting on this site are just blowing shite out their arss. </p>
<p>I would add to your comment:<br />
&#8220;You might be willing to risk your own life on it but what about your children&#8217;s, parents, friends and neighbors lives?&#8221;<br />
How about:<br />
How much would you pay for risk insurance and would you be willing to sign a release that you, or any family members, could not sue the airline in the event of a crash?</p>
<p>Seems like turning them off at take-off and landing is a small price to pay for some additional safety to me but what do I know, I&#8217;m not invincible like the other people commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: kwj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an engineer that makes a living testing avionics systems for EMI and EMC interactions, I can understand the FAA&#039;s cautious approach to allowing more and more electronic devices to be used during all flight phases.

Neither FAA (nor the military for that matter) will just take it on faith that electronic devices will cannot or will not cause interactions that degrade cockpit comm and nav systems.  Not to mention human factors issues like reflections of an iPad screen off cockpit windows at night.  There are too many lives potentially at stake.  Either test the devices against the aircraft systems (research &quot;source/victim testing&quot; if interested) and prove interactions don&#039;t occur or don&#039;t cause degradation, or don&#039;t fly with them.

American can use the iPad in 777s now because that configuration of device/aircraft has been tested.  The rest of the American aircraft configs are likely being test now for certification by year end, epecially during takeoff and landing when comm and nav system function are most critical.

Also realize the FAAs position when you expand the number of devices to *all* consumer electronics.  And the number of aircraft.  Whose burden will it be to test the devices...the FAA? the device manufacturer?  And how to you enforce allowing tested devices to be operated and all others shut off?

The problem isn&#039;t nearly as simple as the traveling public realizes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer that makes a living testing avionics systems for EMI and EMC interactions, I can understand the FAA&#8217;s cautious approach to allowing more and more electronic devices to be used during all flight phases.</p>
<p>Neither FAA (nor the military for that matter) will just take it on faith that electronic devices will cannot or will not cause interactions that degrade cockpit comm and nav systems.  Not to mention human factors issues like reflections of an iPad screen off cockpit windows at night.  There are too many lives potentially at stake.  Either test the devices against the aircraft systems (research &#8220;source/victim testing&#8221; if interested) and prove interactions don&#8217;t occur or don&#8217;t cause degradation, or don&#8217;t fly with them.</p>
<p>American can use the iPad in 777s now because that configuration of device/aircraft has been tested.  The rest of the American aircraft configs are likely being test now for certification by year end, epecially during takeoff and landing when comm and nav system function are most critical.</p>
<p>Also realize the FAAs position when you expand the number of devices to *all* consumer electronics.  And the number of aircraft.  Whose burden will it be to test the devices&#8230;the FAA? the device manufacturer?  And how to you enforce allowing tested devices to be operated and all others shut off?</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t nearly as simple as the traveling public realizes.</p>
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		<title>By: davylow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davylow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Link to original article?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to original article?</p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That will only happen if you fly Korean Airlines or Asiana.

You have been warned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That will only happen if you fly Korean Airlines or Asiana.</p>
<p>You have been warned.</p>
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		<title>By: iGads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iGads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pilot: Autopilot on, time for some Angry birds.
Co-Pilot: Time to catch up on that episode I missed last night.
Pilot: Make sure the door is locked, we wouldn&#039;t want anyone to see we are not actually flying the plane.
Co-Pilot: Good call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilot: Autopilot on, time for some Angry birds.<br />
Co-Pilot: Time to catch up on that episode I missed last night.<br />
Pilot: Make sure the door is locked, we wouldn&#8217;t want anyone to see we are not actually flying the plane.<br />
Co-Pilot: Good call.</p>
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		<title>By: fredman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fredman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple will be the first company to make iDevices with the capability of using it on an aircraft all the time. Another step for Apple. 

But i wouldn&#039;t use it thought, i hate flying.

But i guess for many others would be great

*troll mode off*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple will be the first company to make iDevices with the capability of using it on an aircraft all the time. Another step for Apple. </p>
<p>But i wouldn&#8217;t use it thought, i hate flying.</p>
<p>But i guess for many others would be great</p>
<p>*troll mode off*</p>
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		<title>By: peterblood71</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterblood71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man that&#039;d be great to get instant feedback from a plane on all it&#039;s working systems.  Any deviation could notify the pilot of something amiss instantly.  Siri could tell dumbass co-pilots to stop pulling back on the stick and WHY (ala the relatively recent Air France Airbus stall and crash into the ocean killing hundreds for no good reason other than lack of pilot training.) On the cockpit tapes the copilot never knew why the plane crashed and was asking why until the moment of impact.  If he had known he would have been horrified to learn he was doing the exact wrong thing.  He killed himself and countless others due to ignorance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man that&#8217;d be great to get instant feedback from a plane on all it&#8217;s working systems.  Any deviation could notify the pilot of something amiss instantly.  Siri could tell dumbass co-pilots to stop pulling back on the stick and WHY (ala the relatively recent Air France Airbus stall and crash into the ocean killing hundreds for no good reason other than lack of pilot training.) On the cockpit tapes the copilot never knew why the plane crashed and was asking why until the moment of impact.  If he had known he would have been horrified to learn he was doing the exact wrong thing.  He killed himself and countless others due to ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: 3l3c7ro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3l3c7ro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The FAA is reviewing this outdated idiocy. They will be replacing it with new idiocy. But then again, the Department of Homeland Insecurity will be up to the same old idiocy but modifying it to make it more difficult to bring your &#039;potentially flight disrupting&#039; iPad onboard because you might carry a bomb in it or swap it with the pilot&#039;s iPad who will play Angry Birds or follow the fake maps you installed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FAA is reviewing this outdated idiocy. They will be replacing it with new idiocy. But then again, the Department of Homeland Insecurity will be up to the same old idiocy but modifying it to make it more difficult to bring your &#8216;potentially flight disrupting&#8217; iPad onboard because you might carry a bomb in it or swap it with the pilot&#8217;s iPad who will play Angry Birds or follow the fake maps you installed.</p>
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		<title>By: peterblood71</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterblood71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s not forget the savings of .5 million spent on chiropractors from having to tote a 35 pound bag of yesterday&#039;s solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the savings of .5 million spent on chiropractors from having to tote a 35 pound bag of yesterday&#8217;s solution.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinTX</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AustinTX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doubtful. Turning off electronic devices is the biggest crock of shit.  Think of all the folks that leave their devices on anyway.  Have many air incidents have been caused by devices?  Exactly zero I suspect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubtful. Turning off electronic devices is the biggest crock of shit.  Think of all the folks that leave their devices on anyway.  Have many air incidents have been caused by devices?  Exactly zero I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And here is a old story: 

&quot;Aircraft manufacturer Airbus is now using iPads in its &quot;electronic flight bags.&quot;
The company is creating custom apps, delivered through the App Store, to help pilots look at operations manuals and figure out airplane performance while in the air. The iPad, according to Airbus, is going to be a standard operating tool going forward.&quot;

http://www.ipadnews.nl/2012/07/10/airbus-creates-electronic-flight-bag-apps-for-pilots-with-ipads/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is a old story: </p>
<p>&#8220;Aircraft manufacturer Airbus is now using iPads in its &#8220;electronic flight bags.&#8221;<br />
The company is creating custom apps, delivered through the App Store, to help pilots look at operations manuals and figure out airplane performance while in the air. The iPad, according to Airbus, is going to be a standard operating tool going forward.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ipadnews.nl/2012/07/10/airbus-creates-electronic-flight-bag-apps-for-pilots-with-ipads/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipadnews.nl/2012/07/10/airbus-creates-electronic-flight-bag-apps-for-pilots-with-ipads/</a></p>
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		<title>By: disposableidentity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[disposableidentity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So do I get to keep reading during takeoff &amp; landing now?
Or will that still cause interference and endanger the plane?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do I get to keep reading during takeoff &amp; landing now?<br />
Or will that still cause interference and endanger the plane?</p>
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		<title>By: iAppleTennisU:-)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iAppleTennisU:-)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iPads do fly ... first class stock AAPL :-)

2015 AAPL = $1077 dollars per share!!!

iBuy AAPL, uBuy??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPads do fly &#8230; first class stock AAPL <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>2015 AAPL = $1077 dollars per share!!!</p>
<p>iBuy AAPL, uBuy??</p>
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		<title>By: fredman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fredman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you wont. you&#039;ll be in the hand of iOS iPad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you wont. you&#8217;ll be in the hand of iOS iPad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dijonaise</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dijonaise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, please don&#039;t let my life be in the hands of a POS android phablet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please don&#8217;t let my life be in the hands of a POS android phablet!</p>
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