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		<title>By: dc4549</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dc4549]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have about 28,500 troops in 107 installations in South Korea. If they can not get Samsung to striation up. Tell the South Korean Government  we are pulling out  all troops and close everything down.  Let them fend for themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have about 28,500 troops in 107 installations in South Korea. If they can not get Samsung to striation up. Tell the South Korean Government  we are pulling out  all troops and close everything down.  Let them fend for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: eldernorm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eldernorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ref &quot;you fucking apple fanboys. &quot;   Hey its just Chris using another screen name.  Same bad spelling and bad grammar.

Just a thought. 
en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref &#8220;you fucking apple fanboys. &#8221;   Hey its just Chris using another screen name.  Same bad spelling and bad grammar.</p>
<p>Just a thought.<br />
en</p>
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		<title>By: KRONOS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KRONOS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL!!
 10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!!<br />
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		<title>By: ditchdoc68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ditchdoc68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Tessellator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tessellator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, I will make this as simple as possible. FRAND stands for Fair Reasonable and non Discriminatory

When you lobby a standards organization to have your patented technology become part of a standard (like 3G cellphone communications) you pledge to license it at a reasonable rate.
If Shamesung would attempt something as stupid as you suggest (charging outrageously for SEP&#039;s) would land in court not (just) with Apple but with governments &amp; standards regulators, to which it pledged FRAND status (of the patentets) during their push to have them included in the standard.
For instance Apple (successfully) pushed to have it&#039;s sim design (most of it anyway) declared as &quot;the&quot; new standard or cell phones. It has now pledged those patents to Fair reasonable and non discriminatory licensing. It can&#039;t now turn around and try to charge $500 per license to Samesung. (because shamesung HAS to license to make a cellphone compatible with the rest of the world. That is what standards are for. 

That is why Samesung and Moto (via google) are so pathetic trying to leverage standards essential patents (SEP&#039;s)  The companies had to agree to reasonable licensing (FRAND) as a part of petitioning to have their patents incorporated into the standard.

I am writing to you as I would an 8 year old because you appear very confused, and truly don&#039;t seem to understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I will make this as simple as possible. FRAND stands for Fair Reasonable and non Discriminatory</p>
<p>When you lobby a standards organization to have your patented technology become part of a standard (like 3G cellphone communications) you pledge to license it at a reasonable rate.<br />
If Shamesung would attempt something as stupid as you suggest (charging outrageously for SEP&#8217;s) would land in court not (just) with Apple but with governments &amp; standards regulators, to which it pledged FRAND status (of the patentets) during their push to have them included in the standard.<br />
For instance Apple (successfully) pushed to have it&#8217;s sim design (most of it anyway) declared as &#8220;the&#8221; new standard or cell phones. It has now pledged those patents to Fair reasonable and non discriminatory licensing. It can&#8217;t now turn around and try to charge $500 per license to Samesung. (because shamesung HAS to license to make a cellphone compatible with the rest of the world. That is what standards are for. </p>
<p>That is why Samesung and Moto (via google) are so pathetic trying to leverage standards essential patents (SEP&#8217;s)  The companies had to agree to reasonable licensing (FRAND) as a part of petitioning to have their patents incorporated into the standard.</p>
<p>I am writing to you as I would an 8 year old because you appear very confused, and truly don&#8217;t seem to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What weight does the ITC have re international enforcement of FRAND premise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What weight does the ITC have re international enforcement of FRAND premise?</p>
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		<title>By: Ubermac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubermac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;do you think that Samsung is moron&quot;

yes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;do you think that Samsung is moron&#8221;</p>
<p>yes</p>
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		<title>By: warbux</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[warbux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samsung owns 10 times as many patents as Apple... 

Too bad ther are all related to refrigerators.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung owns 10 times as many patents as Apple&#8230; </p>
<p>Too bad ther are all related to refrigerators.</p>
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		<title>By: Counterproductive</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Counterproductive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 10:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, you&#039;re not.

There are literally thousands of patents that go into a standard like 4G LTE.

&quot;4G LTE&quot; isn&#039;t a simple &quot;standard&quot; in the sense of 220V electricity, or a certain grade of fuel that refineries have to comply with, or standard sizes of thread on screws or bolts, etc.

This is a very complex technology, and lots of companies have contributed pieces of the puzzle to make a platform that makes interoperability of devices possible.

So, Samsung has like 4% of the patents, something like that. Yet, it wants to charge Apple an exorbitant rate that no other licensee is ever charged for ALL the technology.

It has fastened on 2.5% of the total retail price of the ENTIRE iPhone, when the LTE chip is a minor part, and Samsung has maybe 4% of the IP in that one part. There is no precedence for this (no successful precedence -- of course Motorola is trying the same thing with Apple).

Samsung thinks that it is not fair that the iPhone is successful, and it thinks it can get away with this because it says it only takes &quot;a single bullet to kill&quot;! IOW, if not for Samsung&#039;s 4%, LTE wouldn&#039;t work at all.

Basically, Samsung is trying to hold Apple to ransom. It&#039;s highway robbery, pure and simple. And the Korean Government is supporting it. Which is why there may be political repercussions. You can&#039;t have &quot;standards&quot; and have this kind of insane activity going on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>There are literally thousands of patents that go into a standard like 4G LTE.</p>
<p>&#8220;4G LTE&#8221; isn&#8217;t a simple &#8220;standard&#8221; in the sense of 220V electricity, or a certain grade of fuel that refineries have to comply with, or standard sizes of thread on screws or bolts, etc.</p>
<p>This is a very complex technology, and lots of companies have contributed pieces of the puzzle to make a platform that makes interoperability of devices possible.</p>
<p>So, Samsung has like 4% of the patents, something like that. Yet, it wants to charge Apple an exorbitant rate that no other licensee is ever charged for ALL the technology.</p>
<p>It has fastened on 2.5% of the total retail price of the ENTIRE iPhone, when the LTE chip is a minor part, and Samsung has maybe 4% of the IP in that one part. There is no precedence for this (no successful precedence &#8212; of course Motorola is trying the same thing with Apple).</p>
<p>Samsung thinks that it is not fair that the iPhone is successful, and it thinks it can get away with this because it says it only takes &#8220;a single bullet to kill&#8221;! IOW, if not for Samsung&#8217;s 4%, LTE wouldn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>Basically, Samsung is trying to hold Apple to ransom. It&#8217;s highway robbery, pure and simple. And the Korean Government is supporting it. Which is why there may be political repercussions. You can&#8217;t have &#8220;standards&#8221; and have this kind of insane activity going on.</p>
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		<title>By: chefpastry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chefpastry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 08:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You truly epitomize how stupid many Droidtards are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You truly epitomize how stupid many Droidtards are.</p>
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		<title>By: iCupertino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iCupertino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought AAPL and other companies formed a LLC named Rockstar, LLC. (with MSFT, Nokia...etc) and purchased patents from Nortel including LTE. Am I missing something here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought AAPL and other companies formed a LLC named Rockstar, LLC. (with MSFT, Nokia&#8230;etc) and purchased patents from Nortel including LTE. Am I missing something here?</p>
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		<title>By: Sucker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sucker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All your base are belong to us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All your base are belong to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Lopez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 05:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re way too dummed, can you understand that apple mostly purchased the LTE chips from a manufacture who already pay for the licensing fees. Apple is not as stupid as you think, they are not just going to start using a technology which could bring them many legal problems. Simply samsuck can not get pay for the same technology twice.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re way too dummed, can you understand that apple mostly purchased the LTE chips from a manufacture who already pay for the licensing fees. Apple is not as stupid as you think, they are not just going to start using a technology which could bring them many legal problems. Simply samsuck can not get pay for the same technology twice&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jax44</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jax44]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 05:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samsung has licensed their FRAND patents under the sub category CRAP ( Copy Relenlessly And Pray), therefore releasing them from any moral obligation.
   The KCM ( Korean Copy Machine) has granted Samsung a license to steal in perpetuity .

  I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung has licensed their FRAND patents under the sub category CRAP ( Copy Relenlessly And Pray), therefore releasing them from any moral obligation.<br />
   The KCM ( Korean Copy Machine) has granted Samsung a license to steal in perpetuity .</p>
<p>  I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.</p>
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		<title>By: breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If FRAND patents are granted with the contemplation of industrywide fair access, can FRAND status ( and therefore the patents) be rescinded by the grantees, when their owners blatantly abuse the status, like Samsung?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If FRAND patents are granted with the contemplation of industrywide fair access, can FRAND status ( and therefore the patents) be rescinded by the grantees, when their owners blatantly abuse the status, like Samsung?</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your reply has so much value and insight I guess you can&#039;t tell the difference either dude!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reply has so much value and insight I guess you can&#8217;t tell the difference either dude!</p>
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		<title>By: breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you had a brain you&#039; d understand the difference between the men and the boys...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had a brain you&#8217; d understand the difference between the men and the boys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[breeze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Licensce fees have been paid, as stated contractually... Basically no case aginst Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Licensce fees have been paid, as stated contractually&#8230; Basically no case aginst Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Different Tools in the same box imho :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different Tools in the same box imho <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: silverhawk1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverhawk1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s no Rob Enderle, that&#039;s for sure!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s no Rob Enderle, that&#8217;s for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: silverhawk1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverhawk1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, he is a self proclaimed patent expert with one heck of a lot of experience. &quot;About me

Introduction	Florian Mueller is an award-winning intellectual property activist-turned-analyst with 25 years of software industry expertise spanning across different market segments (games, education, productivity and infrastructure software), diverse business models and a variety of technical and commercial areas of responsibility, enabling a holistic perspective. Florian advises clients on the patent wars surrounding mobile devices, and on their economic and technical implications. His consulting services are available directly (contact form, LinkedIn profile) as well as through two primary research firms (Gerson Lehrman Group, Coleman Research Group) serving the financial community. (In order to avoid conflicts of interest, Florian does not hold or initiate transactions in any technology stocks or derivatives thereof.)&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is a self proclaimed patent expert with one heck of a lot of experience. &#8220;About me</p>
<p>Introduction	Florian Mueller is an award-winning intellectual property activist-turned-analyst with 25 years of software industry expertise spanning across different market segments (games, education, productivity and infrastructure software), diverse business models and a variety of technical and commercial areas of responsibility, enabling a holistic perspective. Florian advises clients on the patent wars surrounding mobile devices, and on their economic and technical implications. His consulting services are available directly (contact form, LinkedIn profile) as well as through two primary research firms (Gerson Lehrman Group, Coleman Research Group) serving the financial community. (In order to avoid conflicts of interest, Florian does not hold or initiate transactions in any technology stocks or derivatives thereof.)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t claim to be an expert on patents so there is the difference.

Florian reminds me of the kind of guy who hires a carpenter to remodel his house and then tries to tell the real expert how the job should be done. The guy is a toolbox. 

Quoted by news and tech outlets? The same ones everyone here claims are morons whenever an apple story hits the wire? lol. 

I stand by my statement. The man has no credentials in law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t claim to be an expert on patents so there is the difference.</p>
<p>Florian reminds me of the kind of guy who hires a carpenter to remodel his house and then tries to tell the real expert how the job should be done. The guy is a toolbox. </p>
<p>Quoted by news and tech outlets? The same ones everyone here claims are morons whenever an apple story hits the wire? lol. </p>
<p>I stand by my statement. The man has no credentials in law.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMacAdvocate</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheMacAdvocate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mueller is quoted by news and tech outlets around the world on a regular basis. You&#039;re some commenter.

So yea- you and Joe the grocer will be quoted as frequently by the press.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mueller is quoted by news and tech outlets around the world on a regular basis. You&#8217;re some commenter.</p>
<p>So yea- you and Joe the grocer will be quoted as frequently by the press.</p>
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		<title>By: Shock Me</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shock Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mad, Bro?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mad, Bro?</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be desperate but what other options does Samsung have? Apparently not many! 

These guys are getting cleaned out in court, they are going to pull out all the stops and do whatever they can to turn the tide. It doses not matter that suing over FRAND patents might land them in more trouble later, they are short term thinkers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be desperate but what other options does Samsung have? Apparently not many! </p>
<p>These guys are getting cleaned out in court, they are going to pull out all the stops and do whatever they can to turn the tide. It doses not matter that suing over FRAND patents might land them in more trouble later, they are short term thinkers.</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samsung may be stupid but they aren&#039;t that stupid. Mueller is only a self proclaimed &#039;patent expert&#039; - the guy is not a lawyer and has never worked in law. Joe at the corner grocer has the same credentials as mueller when it comes to patent law.

The dude is a blogger. Only the truest of morons hire bloggers, geniuses like Oracle who then go on to get their @sses handed to them in court ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung may be stupid but they aren&#8217;t that stupid. Mueller is only a self proclaimed &#8216;patent expert&#8217; &#8211; the guy is not a lawyer and has never worked in law. Joe at the corner grocer has the same credentials as mueller when it comes to patent law.</p>
<p>The dude is a blogger. Only the truest of morons hire bloggers, geniuses like Oracle who then go on to get their @sses handed to them in court <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[apple argues with such childish design patents in court last time. Samsung can sue whatever they want.  why apple can, why samsung can&#039;t. you fucking apple fanboys. clearly, LTE technology is own by Samsung. if they will sue, Apple can&#039;t put it in their iphone 5. then people won&#039;t buy such an outdated device ever. who will win, dumbass fanboys? if you want to fight with patent, don&#039;t even try like design patent. it&#039;s changed all the time. its lifespan is short. technology patent is more important. Samsung has 10 times more than apple in terms of patent. do you think that Samsung is moron. I think that apple is closed the line. if Samsung would be willing to sue, now there is no apple, nada long time ago. they just want to work together. apple doesn&#039;t realize ecosystem. I guess that it is just matter of time that apple will be disappeared behind the history soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apple argues with such childish design patents in court last time. Samsung can sue whatever they want.  why apple can, why samsung can&#8217;t. you fucking apple fanboys. clearly, LTE technology is own by Samsung. if they will sue, Apple can&#8217;t put it in their iphone 5. then people won&#8217;t buy such an outdated device ever. who will win, dumbass fanboys? if you want to fight with patent, don&#8217;t even try like design patent. it&#8217;s changed all the time. its lifespan is short. technology patent is more important. Samsung has 10 times more than apple in terms of patent. do you think that Samsung is moron. I think that apple is closed the line. if Samsung would be willing to sue, now there is no apple, nada long time ago. they just want to work together. apple doesn&#8217;t realize ecosystem. I guess that it is just matter of time that apple will be disappeared behind the history soon.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekJen</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/02/where-on-earth-could-samsung-get-the-iphone-5-banned-over-4glte-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-1031042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeekJen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And here Ladies and Gentlemen : exhibit A. 

A typical Fandroid idiot without a clue hard at work to spill out his irrational hate against Apple while completely ignoring all facts. Born in hell pits of like minded fandroid idiots these Google minions circle jerk to find the stupidest argument against Apple. The stupidest wins the honour to enter an Apple focused forum and die as a miserable troll. A sad life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here Ladies and Gentlemen : exhibit A. </p>
<p>A typical Fandroid idiot without a clue hard at work to spill out his irrational hate against Apple while completely ignoring all facts. Born in hell pits of like minded fandroid idiots these Google minions circle jerk to find the stupidest argument against Apple. The stupidest wins the honour to enter an Apple focused forum and die as a miserable troll. A sad life.</p>
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		<title>By: occasionalposter1</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/02/where-on-earth-could-samsung-get-the-iphone-5-banned-over-4glte-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-1031040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[occasionalposter1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well if Samsung own the rights then charge
The fruit company 500 per fone . i don’t care if its fran. Dan or spam.&quot;

What YOU don&#039;t understand and cannot seem to fathom is that when under FRAND and the direction that Samsung took - THEY GAVE UP their rights legally to an outright ban of their own IP. Shucks, you are in bad company with Samsung! They can&#039;t seem to comprehend that either!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well if Samsung own the rights then charge<br />
The fruit company 500 per fone . i don’t care if its fran. Dan or spam.&#8221;</p>
<p>What YOU don&#8217;t understand and cannot seem to fathom is that when under FRAND and the direction that Samsung took &#8211; THEY GAVE UP their rights legally to an outright ban of their own IP. Shucks, you are in bad company with Samsung! They can&#8217;t seem to comprehend that either!</p>
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		<title>By: peterblood71</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peterblood71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Chris The Miss again.  Everything that spews from his feeble, confused and uninformed mind is automatic waste and to be dealt with as such.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Chris The Miss again.  Everything that spews from his feeble, confused and uninformed mind is automatic waste and to be dealt with as such.</p>
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		<title>By: chefpastry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chefpastry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hahahaha  You are so stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaha  You are so stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: qka</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet the recent decision against Apple in a Korean court was over Apple using Scamdung IP, in the form of Intel chips for which Intel had licensed the Scamdung IP.

Your point makes sense to honest people, but not Koreans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet the recent decision against Apple in a Korean court was over Apple using Scamdung IP, in the form of Intel chips for which Intel had licensed the Scamdung IP.</p>
<p>Your point makes sense to honest people, but not Koreans.</p>
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		<title>By: silverhawk1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverhawk1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seriously hope that Samsung never hires Herr Mueller for patent advice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously hope that Samsung never hires Herr Mueller for patent advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because every settler gets looked at by an iPhone user in a way that makes them mad.  So to try and right the wrong that has been done to them they want Apple to give up and pay everybody anything that&#039;s asked of them, for this would surely make iOS and the Apple experience as bad as what they&#039;ve come to love with Android, and therefore wouldn&#039;t warrant the pity they receive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because every settler gets looked at by an iPhone user in a way that makes them mad.  So to try and right the wrong that has been done to them they want Apple to give up and pay everybody anything that&#8217;s asked of them, for this would surely make iOS and the Apple experience as bad as what they&#8217;ve come to love with Android, and therefore wouldn&#8217;t warrant the pity they receive.</p>
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		<title>By: Rorschach</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rorschach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple buys radio chips from companies that supply the same chips to other manufacturers. Apple&#039;s argument, quite rightly, is that licence fees for those patents should already have been paid, so why should Apple have to cough up twice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple buys radio chips from companies that supply the same chips to other manufacturers. Apple&#8217;s argument, quite rightly, is that licence fees for those patents should already have been paid, so why should Apple have to cough up twice.</p>
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		<title>By: JebusR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JebusR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must not have a brain...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must not have a brain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well if Samsung own the rights then charge
The fruit company 500 per fone .  i don&#039;t care if its fran. Dan or spam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Samsung own the rights then charge<br />
The fruit company 500 per fone .  i don&#8217;t care if its fran. Dan or spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Radio</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/02/where-on-earth-could-samsung-get-the-iphone-5-banned-over-4glte-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-1030989</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Radio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes apple loves paying licensing fees twice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes apple loves paying licensing fees twice</p>
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