“If apple really think that Samsung products look too similar they should just change the design on every phone instead of every second one.

why? why should apple change its design because samsung is violating the law by copying them?

in Picassos cubist period, he worked with Braque, it can be said they developed cubism together. Neither ripped each other off. PIcasso’s Les Demoiselles d’Avignon is considered the first proto cubist (i.e the forerunner of the cubist movement). Neither of them had ‘rights’ to the movement or can be considered the ‘creator’ over the other.

Picasso left the movement and his later works were very distinct.

I’m not sure what you’re getting at with picasso braque but they hardly have anything to do with samsung. Apple didn’t set up a studio with Samsung to develop the iPhone together. Apple designed the iPhone by themselves and samsung stole as even the jury agreed.

I can guarantee that apple has a date in their iCal When Samsung will be dropped for ALL components they supply to apple.

I reckon within. 6 months apple won’t e dealing with Samsung at all.

You talk about the ‘apple fanboys and cult’ but what you should be doing is encouraging apples competitors to design and make better products!

I’ve tried all of apples competitors over te years and NONE of them offers the amazing user experience and quality of design that apple does.

Android OS sucks if you’ve ever used and apple IOS device. Android is in beta stage compared to IOS and the reason why IOS will always be better is that apple is a software and hardware company NOT a search company.

Face the facts, google will Newr be apple and apple will never be google.

Google should have stuck to search, it’s their only specialism.

Pat has the “most posts” on here because Shitdung pays him by the word to post here…

Go Fsck yourself!

Cheers!

Why do you even bother to post your anti-Apple diatribe, diahrea bullshit on this forum? Oh yes, I remember- you’re a Scamscum paid troll that just showed up on this forum when the Apple vs. Shitdung began and get paid by the word.
Again- ESAD and just go the Fsck away

so going back to your comment in another article where you said “Apple cannot take on everyone and think it can win.”

(http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/27/apple-kicks-googles-android-in-the-teeth-1-05-billion-jury-award-may-really-be-worth-450-billion/#eej2ahZ0RPQqv0Jw.99)

I said :
“iPod.

iPod beat Sony, Toshiba, iRiver, Creative Nomad, Phillips, Saehan, Archos, Samsung, Cowon, Msft Zune, Sandisk, etc etc. Note that companies like Sony were huge, had extensive audio manufacturing – sony sold tens of millions of Walkman every year and STILL got beat by by an apple which in those days was much much smaller than it is now”

well? I’m a piece of work.. when I show how retard your arguments are?

like I said your posts are full of nonsense.

no wonder gm is in such shat trouble with ‘tards like you working for it.

a retard of an apple hater who posts and posts hate on an Apple FAN site?

or apple fans praising apple?

a psycho doc is near you — please get help.

again who is the fanatic the apple fan that posts on an Apple FAN SITE or an apple hater who posts over and over here?

don’t worry!
a psychiatrist is near you!

(your delusions of being a VP of GM who doesn’t even know its supply chain which a commentator can dig out in 5 minutes… you need help.)

Remember that Apple does not have money, shareholders do and what you propose would need a strong value proposition for them to want to fund the kinds of costs that state of the art foundries would cost.

Watching TV and typing on my mid 2011 MBA 13″ with the top rated Samsung 256 G SSD (coe s and not t for Toshiba), Samsung display, Samsung Chispets and Samsung RAM.

Could also be typing on my 2012 MPB 15 D fully loaded or my iPad or my iPhone. Simply put, use Apple but not an Apple Fan Boy! Sorry.

I am wasting time with a Cult member like you. Drink the Kool-Aid and happy dreams.

I have nothing but respect for Apple and their products but still cannot believe the disciples that speak of Apple as the second coming! You have to admit that this is freaky and a scary human condition.

It’s a shame, really, that Apple can’t get serious about non-consumer tech-intensive markets. There is profit to be had there (a Sony Trimaster OLED display can run up to $26,000), it’s just a lot more work than Apple seems willing to expend. Sad, really.

“Ex GM Canada VP here ”

eh…
if you’re really a GM VP..

you’re proud member of company brought back from bankruptcy by government (taxpayer) bailouts criticizing the strategies of Apple — you know the record breaking profit making company with 110 billion in the bank?

maybe GM woud be better condition if they hired apple junior managers to run it instead of morons like you?

lol.

the samsung family is a dispicable tribe: go google all the lawsuits the various multi millionaire branches of the family have launched against EACH OTHER.

the head of Samsung have been convicted of all kinds of chargers from fraud etc by the Korean Govt. He was PARDONED by the president of Korea. (samsung controlls 20% of Koreans GDP and politcians, courts – re: recent lawsuit against apple – don’t dare to fart without samsungs approval . It must have been a bloody big shock for samsung’s azzhats to have anyone like steve Jobs to stand up to them)

wikiepedia:

:”n July 16, 2008, The New York Times reported that the Seoul Central District Court found him (Chariman of samsung) guilty on charges of financial wrongdoing and tax evasion. Prosecutors requested that Lee be sentenced to seven years in prison and fined $347 million. The court fined him $109 million and sentenced him to 3 years suspended jail time. Lee has not responded to the verdict.[5]
On December 29, 2009, the South Korean government moved to pardon Lee Kun-hee.”

this is the company guys like PAT are defending.

(I worked for years in asia and loved many things about asia but companies like samsung are an exception)

“Listen Apple Cult members”

DUDE this is an Apple FAN site.
so if you don’t like apple fans WTF are you posting here?

you’re an apple hater yet you have the most posts here (an apple fan site) so who is more cult like or crazy fanatic?

apple fans who praise apple on an apple fan site or an apple hater i.e you PAT who posts here and posts the most?

think about it

what are you : “Cult of Apple Hate”?
you seriously need some psycho help.

He was quoting Pablo Picasso. You’re distortion field is pretty heavy. If someone repeats something, or ‘quotes’ someone, then the quote is attributed to the original person. You’re taking it out of context and trying to spin it that this was some fundamental truth that Steve had coined on his own in regards to policy. Gtfo

go attend art 101.

I’ve got a BA in studio art and BFA in art and art history.

my infatuation with apple???
you dislike apple and you post all over on a MAC FAN WEBSITE.. and you talk about infatuation?

I’m posting here as I’m apple fan and spend lots of time conversing with other apple fans, you dislike apple and you’re spending bonks of time posting in numerous MDN article forums and you say others have ‘infatuation’ ???? . Man, who has got the issues here?

rotfl !!!

lol.

cluessless so called ex VP of GM who does not know that GM’s own sub Nexteer sold parts to Ford and said that “Apple can’t win against many”.. (like davewrite refuted: iPod).

and like apple haters every where, when they get chewed and made to look like fools it’s name calling : “Cult of Mac” … well you’re cult of ignorance and stupidity. lol.

Entirely blame Samsung. They did the dirty deed. They got caught. They paid the penalty.

OF COURSE Apple is pulling out of Samsung! What did Samsung expect? The blithering idiots. They blew a hole through their own head. Samsung’s ripping off of Apple was plain old SUICIDE.

I will never understand why companies commit self-destructive acts. Hello Samsung stock holders! The current management is killing the company! Time for a change into the positive direction! Kill the killers and get back to doing REAL work.

Appeals and lot’s to them will be forthcoming and yes expect the Feds to get involved as the diplomatic phone calls are already flowing.

Listen Apple Cult members, you all have a hate on for Microsoft, Android, Samsung, etc… and this is AOK but please do not come off like brainwashed robots as the latter is extremely scary.

As I often times say, I enjoy Apple products and own several of them but I am not a big fan of the Cult like Culture as the Culture is self-righteous and the associated self proclaimed prophecy is getting old.

As for your infatuation with Apple goes…. well no comments.

if you were actually a GM vp, did they fire you for dumbness?

you didn’t even know about your own companies Nexteer’s connections…

if your friends at gm saw your posts being ripped apart they’ll be laughing their heads off.

you claim that you are an expert in international law and that the process of the trial is wonky because the jury did it fast…

well expert in international law, if there was a murder (a serious crime) but where the charged was seen by ten witnesses and videotaped by four phone cameras and one surveillance camera, where his DNA was found at scene, on the victim and the murder weapon and the gun was registered to him and he was arrested at the scene holding the gun over the victim..

and the jury decided he was guilty very fast.. is it flawed?

the jury in samsung apple case said they arrived at it so quickly because over the WEEKs of the case they had seen the evidence against samsung (DNA, gun, witnesses) was absolutely compelling.

gm for example owns parts suppliers that sell to eveyone.

example they used to own nexteer (which they sold not too long ago). Autotrend “General Motors isn’t the only customer served by Nexteer. The company is a supplier of auto parts for Toyota, Ford, PSA Peugeot Citroen, Fiat and Chrysler,”

enough?

did you actually listen to Steve’s Jobs interview where he said theat quote : good artist copies great artists steal? He was quoting Picasso. Picasso meant that inferior artists marely make copies (e.g photocopy machine Samsung) while great artists take ideas from all over and through history in different discplines and TRANSFORM them into their own unique works of art.

In Jobs interview he explainst that at Apple people were artists, musicians, poets and they TRANSFORMED art into engineering for mac!! Before apple tech companies seldom looked at ARTS for inspiration, that’s what Jobs was talking about.

sure Picasso ‘stole’ but does anybody doubt he’s a unique artist? even non artists can recognise a picasso,

Samsung transforms squat , they even copie pictures and colors of ICONS !!

I won’t even bother to answer the other nonsense in your posts.

Patents don’t protect ideas; they protect the *expression* of ideas. Apple sued Samsung because it copied Apple’s expression of ideas, i.e. its actual devices and software.

I’m amazed that you don’t appear to understand that important distinction. I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I stated that you are confused but perhaps you’re really trying to deceive and mislead. If so, shame on you.

I didn’t even bother to reply to Pats stupidity here.

I replied in Pats previous posts on another article where pat said that “apple can’t hope to win against everyone”.

I replied “iPod”.

(pat has the gall to say “Let’s be 100% clear as some of you folks are just so out of touch with business that it hurts to read your post” )

My point is what makes up a Corvette is 100% GM and there are no Mustang or GT 500 parts to be found.

By no means do I think that Samsung is innocent as frankly none of the tech co’s are as they ALL copy with a tweak here and there but to condemn Samsung of stealing is another thing and this is what this Jury did hence why the Appeal will be filled and accepted.

Steve Jobs did not make that comment to simply waste a breath. Check out what he did a Pixar.

Sorry to burst your bubble pal but they certainly do buy parts from each other.

The iPhone accounts for 2/3 of mobile browsing. Just imagine if Apple uses bing or yAhoo as default(but I doubt it)

Name one thing that Apple stole, just one.

BTW: it’s = it is; its = possessive pronoun, the one you meant.

The US Judiciary will not allow this verdict to stand as the Jury Foreman’s comments probably have already raised red flags at the US Department of Justice and the US does NOT want the World to think that a US Jury singled handily issued a verdict that clearly favoured a US based company at the latter is not good for business.
My point is simple, in that Samsung is so heavily entrenched into Apple products, that a shift to lesser knowns in terms of quality could be damaging to the Apple brand which folks pay a premium for to own it.

Let’s be 100% clear as some of you folks are just so out of touch with business that it hurts to read your posts. GM does NOT buy parts from Ford! Get it?

Apple needs to buy parts from Samsung, LG, Sony, and God knows how many more suppliers who are or can be in conflict with Apple due to either directly competing against them of supplying other companies with the same parts they sell Apple.

As it stands, the fact remains that Apple is caught between a rock and a hard place as they damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Having a stockpile of shareholder money does nothing for you as that money is money earned and Apple needs to protect it from being used in a failed attempt to try and make a point with your top line parts suppliers.

Do not think for a second that Samsung Group (yes the Group of Companies) will play second fiddle to Apple or anyone else hence given that we ask Countries to avoid Wars by talking things out, the same will happen between Apple and Samsung.

Look whether Apple Cult members like it or not, to this day Apple and Microsoft work closely together and that is just a fact of life. No one company can go at it alone and that includes private and public companies.

Samsung has real competition with Sharp and Sony as well as LG. Apple has been shown to be interested in future production from them already.

It is going to be hard to overturn the verdicts in an appeals court. Face it, it may be even worse for Samsung if the other courts find more in favor of Apple and Samsung’s aggressive stance on copying, stealing, lying, etc. Samsung’s reputation will tank if they go that route.

Pat, how would you feel if your business partners stole your inventions and started competing directly against you? You would be outraged, so why defend Samsung?