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	<title>Comments on: Smartphone Wars: Who wins and who loses from the Apple v. Samsung patent verdict</title>
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		<title>By: Bizlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bizlaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a ridiculous statement. Apple is doing what Apple has always done -- introducing new hardware innovations as they are actually ready for prime time, not things like LTE and 5&quot; screens that suck batteries dry in a couple of hours. What good does a 5&quot; screen do you if your phone is out of power?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a ridiculous statement. Apple is doing what Apple has always done &#8212; introducing new hardware innovations as they are actually ready for prime time, not things like LTE and 5&#8243; screens that suck batteries dry in a couple of hours. What good does a 5&#8243; screen do you if your phone is out of power?</p>
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		<title>By: Bizlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bizlaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Windows Phone has had a &quot;slow rollout&quot; because no one is buying the things. When you aren&#039;t selling a product, you don&#039;t keep producing millions of units and stockpiling them; you cut back on production.

Consumers in the end will be the winners here because companies now know that not only will Apple sue you to the ends of the earth for violating its patents, but that it will win also. It will be less costly to develop your own solution, and that will give consumers more variety. It will take awhile, but it will happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows Phone has had a &#8220;slow rollout&#8221; because no one is buying the things. When you aren&#8217;t selling a product, you don&#8217;t keep producing millions of units and stockpiling them; you cut back on production.</p>
<p>Consumers in the end will be the winners here because companies now know that not only will Apple sue you to the ends of the earth for violating its patents, but that it will win also. It will be less costly to develop your own solution, and that will give consumers more variety. It will take awhile, but it will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: silverhawk1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverhawk1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you really need 500 apps on your iPhone? I didn&#039;t think so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really need 500 apps on your iPhone? I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: DustyMac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DustyMac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not Apple&#039;s fault if you forgot where you put something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Apple&#8217;s fault if you forgot where you put something.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how this helps with the problem he describes.  Sure you can search and find the app.  Once Search finds it, you can open it and use it.  But Search doesn&#039;t tell you which folder it is in or which Home screen it is on so you can delete it, unless I&#039;m missing something.  I don&#039;t think I am since I just tried it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how this helps with the problem he describes.  Sure you can search and find the app.  Once Search finds it, you can open it and use it.  But Search doesn&#8217;t tell you which folder it is in or which Home screen it is on so you can delete it, unless I&#8217;m missing something.  I don&#8217;t think I am since I just tried it.</p>
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		<title>By: midwestmac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[midwestmac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This notion that Apple &quot;took a break&quot; to litigate I&#039;ve seen a few times on various sites and it makes no sense.

Not unless all of Apple&#039;s hardware and software engineers double as their lawyers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This notion that Apple &#8220;took a break&#8221; to litigate I&#8217;ve seen a few times on various sites and it makes no sense.</p>
<p>Not unless all of Apple&#8217;s hardware and software engineers double as their lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Pleasantly Surprised</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pleasantly Surprised]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously... Try the find/search option to search for your app. Launch it. Then tap-hold-click x. 20 seconds tops if you&#039;ve got arthritis. Let&#039;s not exaggerate. iOS has flaws, but let&#039;s clearly define them, not make up stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously&#8230; Try the find/search option to search for your app. Launch it. Then tap-hold-click x. 20 seconds tops if you&#8217;ve got arthritis. Let&#8217;s not exaggerate. iOS has flaws, but let&#8217;s clearly define them, not make up stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Spark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right in that iOS is not perfected. This only goes to point out that there are plenty of ways to shine without copying iOS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right in that iOS is not perfected. This only goes to point out that there are plenty of ways to shine without copying iOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Altos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Altos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Android will not make a M$ out of Goo.

Will the real SlyM $hady, please stand up, please stand up,....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android will not make a M$ out of Goo.</p>
<p>Will the real SlyM $hady, please stand up, please stand up,&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: desertrat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[desertrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uber, you can do a search of your apps.  While on the home screen, click the home button until the search window appears.  Type in the name of the app and it will find it.  It also searches e-mail.  Seems to me that feature was added with iOS 5.0, but I am not certain.  Try it, I think you&#039;ll like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uber, you can do a search of your apps.  While on the home screen, click the home button until the search window appears.  Type in the name of the app and it will find it.  It also searches e-mail.  Seems to me that feature was added with iOS 5.0, but I am not certain.  Try it, I think you&#8217;ll like it.</p>
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		<title>By: btaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[btaylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as a former apple/Phone fanboy from waaaaaaay back--all I have to say is good luck with another marginally improved tiny screened iPhone 5 next month.

way to go apple. don&#039;t continue the revolutionary innovation, take breaks to litigate and have big brother court system fight your battles. take your &quot;tiny screened, long in the tooth, walled garden delicate flower of a device&quot; ball and go home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a former apple/Phone fanboy from waaaaaaay back&#8211;all I have to say is good luck with another marginally improved tiny screened iPhone 5 next month.</p>
<p>way to go apple. don&#8217;t continue the revolutionary innovation, take breaks to litigate and have big brother court system fight your battles. take your &#8220;tiny screened, long in the tooth, walled garden delicate flower of a device&#8221; ball and go home.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubermac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubermac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, but I wish Apple wouldn&#039;t sit on iOS in its crippled form.

I still cannot perform a simple task, such as locate an app on my iPad to delete it, if it is in one of the dozens of folders amongst the 500+ app. 

I have to manually go thru 500 apps in all these folders to find it. 

THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT! HORSESHIT, CRAP, STUPIDITY... AND MORE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but I wish Apple wouldn&#8217;t sit on iOS in its crippled form.</p>
<p>I still cannot perform a simple task, such as locate an app on my iPad to delete it, if it is in one of the dozens of folders amongst the 500+ app. </p>
<p>I have to manually go thru 500 apps in all these folders to find it. </p>
<p>THAT IS JUST BULLSHIT! HORSESHIT, CRAP, STUPIDITY&#8230; AND MORE</p>
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		<title>By: Armand Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Armand Welsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WebOS was a great smartphone OS. It just ran on substandard hardware. The OS demanded more than palm put into the phones. HP could have done great things by licensing it out but sadly they threw it away.

FireFox OS looks very promising too. 

There are plenty of SmartPhone OSes that could compete with iOS if they had the right hardware driving the phone. But there is a cost to it all and noone with their own OS is willing to spend enough cash for adequate hardware to support the OS except Ape where the hardware and software is not the key point of focus but the user experience.  And that os why apple os winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WebOS was a great smartphone OS. It just ran on substandard hardware. The OS demanded more than palm put into the phones. HP could have done great things by licensing it out but sadly they threw it away.</p>
<p>FireFox OS looks very promising too. </p>
<p>There are plenty of SmartPhone OSes that could compete with iOS if they had the right hardware driving the phone. But there is a cost to it all and noone with their own OS is willing to spend enough cash for adequate hardware to support the OS except Ape where the hardware and software is not the key point of focus but the user experience.  And that os why apple os winning.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mountainwalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ken1w</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ken1w]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My opinion on what Apple will do going forward differs somewhat...

I think Apple WANTS Google&#039;s Android to be the main &quot;non-Apple&quot; mobile platform.  So far, Apple has taken legal action against mobile phone makers that use Android, not Google itself.  That is a smart strategy if Apple wants the platform to limp along and even grow, but not die.

Why would Apple want Android to continue as the &quot;other&quot; mobile platform?  Because Android, as a platform, is utterly predictable and &quot;safe&quot; as competition.  Google is not going to do anything with Android that Apple has not already done in iOS.  In a market dominated by Apple and a collective of Android device makers, Apple clearly wins by selling as many devices as it cares to produce (at a very healthy profit margin).  In an Apple versus Android world, Apple wins and continues win for many years to come, and makes most of the available profit in the mobile phone industry.

Having Android as #2 keeps other potentially more dangerous platforms, such as Windows Phone, from becoming a threat.  The existence of Android already helped kill off Palm (WebOS) and is in the process of doing the same to RIM.  If Microsoft did not have deep pockets, Windows Phone would probably be gone by now (or would never have existed).  Yes, iPhone had something to do with it, but it is really the &quot;Android option&quot; as the main alternative to iPhone that keeps other platforms down.  This is also true in tablets, with $199 Android-based tablets making it difficult for Windows 8/RT tablets to gain a foothold.

So, Apple is using Android as sort of a barrier to entry of other platforms.  If any one Android device maker becomes too strong by copying Apple products too closely, Apple takes legal action against that one player, but not against the overall platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion on what Apple will do going forward differs somewhat&#8230;</p>
<p>I think Apple WANTS Google&#8217;s Android to be the main &#8220;non-Apple&#8221; mobile platform.  So far, Apple has taken legal action against mobile phone makers that use Android, not Google itself.  That is a smart strategy if Apple wants the platform to limp along and even grow, but not die.</p>
<p>Why would Apple want Android to continue as the &#8220;other&#8221; mobile platform?  Because Android, as a platform, is utterly predictable and &#8220;safe&#8221; as competition.  Google is not going to do anything with Android that Apple has not already done in iOS.  In a market dominated by Apple and a collective of Android device makers, Apple clearly wins by selling as many devices as it cares to produce (at a very healthy profit margin).  In an Apple versus Android world, Apple wins and continues win for many years to come, and makes most of the available profit in the mobile phone industry.</p>
<p>Having Android as #2 keeps other potentially more dangerous platforms, such as Windows Phone, from becoming a threat.  The existence of Android already helped kill off Palm (WebOS) and is in the process of doing the same to RIM.  If Microsoft did not have deep pockets, Windows Phone would probably be gone by now (or would never have existed).  Yes, iPhone had something to do with it, but it is really the &#8220;Android option&#8221; as the main alternative to iPhone that keeps other platforms down.  This is also true in tablets, with $199 Android-based tablets making it difficult for Windows 8/RT tablets to gain a foothold.</p>
<p>So, Apple is using Android as sort of a barrier to entry of other platforms.  If any one Android device maker becomes too strong by copying Apple products too closely, Apple takes legal action against that one player, but not against the overall platform.</p>
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		<title>By: wzinc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wzinc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad it wasn&#039;t another 1980&#039;s Apple vs. Microsoft ending; that lead to the dark-ages of computing. I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll make mistakes along the way, but Apple has a track-record of fighting for consumers and making great products. Now we sort-of have a chance to see what would have happened had Apple not lost back then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad it wasn&#8217;t another 1980&#8242;s Apple vs. Microsoft ending; that lead to the dark-ages of computing. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll make mistakes along the way, but Apple has a track-record of fighting for consumers and making great products. Now we sort-of have a chance to see what would have happened had Apple not lost back then.</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Other Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those companies that tried innovate smart phones on their own had their head handed to them by Apple. In other words, they didn&#039;t sell anything.
Samsung chose to instead blatantly copy Apple, and sold a boatload of phones. They know that copying Apple works. Court cases are just a hiccup compared to the real money you can make by looking like Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those companies that tried innovate smart phones on their own had their head handed to them by Apple. In other words, they didn&#8217;t sell anything.<br />
Samsung chose to instead blatantly copy Apple, and sold a boatload of phones. They know that copying Apple works. Court cases are just a hiccup compared to the real money you can make by looking like Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[troy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s easy, winners win and losers lose.
According to many studies, people who buy iPhones are successful people, and people who buy android are just fanboys sucks in their mama&#039;s basement with no money to buy apps or click on the ads.
There are some successful people using android phones.. those so successful with no time to read a little bit and gave their self a respectful opinion about a phone so they just go with the one the sales man tell him (Right AT&amp;T?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s easy, winners win and losers lose.<br />
According to many studies, people who buy iPhones are successful people, and people who buy android are just fanboys sucks in their mama&#8217;s basement with no money to buy apps or click on the ads.<br />
There are some successful people using android phones.. those so successful with no time to read a little bit and gave their self a respectful opinion about a phone so they just go with the one the sales man tell him (Right AT&amp;T?)</p>
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