I recall that one famous quote (windows user) said that it made him want to put his cigarette out in “smug” Mac users Eyes. (this was back during the switcher campaign if I recall correctly)

Anyone attribute the quote, I don’t recall.

So in 6 mos or so you haven’t seen a revolutionary product and you are ready to pass judgment? ANd you don’t think that a bit premature? (dam I’d hate to be your significant other’s shoes )

On the advertising, WHile I didn’t really “get” the recent genus ads, the latest crop of iPhone commercials (Scorsese, Malkovich, Jackson, Dechanel) were some of the best they have ever done.

SJ departed only a few months ago but MDN seems to want the new Apple leadership to come out with innovations every month. Not even SJ would have matched that. I am sure Cook, Ive and all at Apple are following in the roadmap left by SJ so all this negative criticisms on Cook and Apple is unfounded. Please don’t do a Gizmodo on us.

iPhone 4S is still the best smartphone out there. The new IPad is the top tablet bar none. In fact, it is the only tablet. iOS 6 will be here soon and the next iPhone will become the new standard of smartphones. What’s not to like? Go Apple!

Apple’s lack of support for cool features in OS X… such as FrontRow – which was largely neglected in 10.6 and abandoned in 10.7 … I suppose because AppleTV is what they want to sell you.

On the consumer side – lack of a mini tower (Core i3/i5/i7 options would be nice too… two PCIe slots… four DIMM/RAM slots… three drive bays (on as an optional optical or 3rd HDD/SSD) woudl be killer…

Apple releasing OS X updates faster than they use (see 10.7′s lack of FrontRow and 10.8 after only 10.7.4 was just released, which in some ways is not nearly as good as 10.6.8).

Apple releasing 10.8 to fix 10.7′s “issues” … because they almost tried to iOS OSX. Yes, some people do like to see the file system on a regular computer.

Not supporting 10.5.8 for iCloud … is just bad. I mean I know its old, but Apple did release some damn nice/powerful systems back in the day. They still support iTunes 10.6.3 on OS 10.5x and they almost let me upgrade to iCloud from my PPC Mac — actually I think iTunes 10.6.3 encouraged me to update to iCloud from the PPC/10.5.8 system … WTF Apple – lack of support for OS X going forward.

The ability to sync with any Mac/Computer and/or iCloud at the same time (though this could have been caused by the recording “industry”).

—– What I like about Apple …
They tend to get features right – not just features on a check list (that suck, crash, fail, etc…)
retinal displays
unlocked iPhones
no contract iPads
optional anti-glare displays on some units
Thunderbolt
AppStore
iTunes – for the most part

Q: Is there a bigger MS butt-licking liar than Enderle?

A: No.

I have been critical of Apple on many occasions. But I strongly prefer to base my inputs on evidence and sound reasoning. Too often nowadays, people seem to feel that a strong belief in something is equivalent to a factual basis. Conviction is no substitute for the truth, no matter how strong.

You can call me a fanboy all you like. I am certainly a strong supporter of Apple and a fanboy in the good sense of the word. I stuck with Apple through the dark ages of the mid-1990s. But I don’t blindly follow anyone or accept any important assertion without critical examination.

There are a few people who might benefit from “running their posts past me,” Weekend. It might help them avoid sounding foolish. You just might be one of those people. But I am not your editor, and I am not volunteering for that job.

And speaking of that, Apple is easily beating Samsung in the US market, where carriers subsidize phones for customers. Apple’s problem is trying to sell an expensive phone in lower-income markets, without carrier subsidies or other forms of financing. Financing is one big reason why Samsung’s share of the world market exceeds Apple’s share, while in America Apple is dominant.

but actually, all these years they did the actual real work for SJ, getting less of the credit than they deserved. and Jobs himself told them they had to take Apple in their own direction, and not try to figure out ‘what Steve would do.’

so get off your high horse, MDN. and wait until the end of 2013 to evaluate how this next generation of Apple is doing on its own.

Just STFU. What you are saying is so ridiculous, no matter how eloquently you try and parse it. Apple has not lost its “magic” (whatever that means). They are still churning out great products. And will continue to do so. Seems to me something is happening this September, IIRC. All signs point to a redesigned iphone and maybe an ipad mini nad maybe some sort of TV thing. Who knows. True – Apple is not perfect. They make mistakes (Browett). What’s important is how they respond to making a big mistake.

You appear to me to be one of the generation of the over spoiled who feels entitled to earth shattering new stuff at the drop of a hat. I don’t mind name calling and to me you really do appear to be a trolling @sshat. What you fail to realize is that the tighter you hold to a ridiculous supposition, the less and less people will take you seriously. You will join the ranks of those names that people eventually just skip over when reading the comments thinking to themselves: “that guy never converses. He only yells and never listens. Pass.”

your ‘my brother’ stuff even if true is meaningless.

REAL facts are stats of users in general not the personal opinion of one of two.

FACT is the iPhone has won JD Powers award from a poll of thousands of actual phone users (a cross section of phone user demographic) SEVEN (7!) times in a row beating all the androids, BBs, Win Phones etc. Not even one of the many android models beats the iPhone for customer satisfaction. shoot they are not even CLOSE in scoring…

http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-tops-user-satisfaction-study-for-seventh-consecutive-time_id28133

Also the iPhone has the highes user retention rates.
UBS survey puts iPhone at 89%, the closest android HTC is 39% !!
http://www.geekosystem.com/iphone-highest-retention-rate/

(“31 percent of Android users claimed they are going to defect to Apple for their next phone. Interestingly, the survey found that 50 percent of people who plan to switch brands for their next phone plan to switch to Apple, whereas only 10 percent of phone switchers are going away from Apple”)

iPhone wins numerous other customer polls from Changewave etc.

By the way, visiting this site is letting 15 different entities track your behaviour, including Google Adsense and Google Analytics. I suggest MDN cut the hypocrisy and stop littering their site with useless ads, most often featuring Microsoft, Dell and various smartphones. Ugh.

So they can all get back to worshiping at the the alter of the almighty MS.

It’s interesting that Mac proponents get labeled as zealots who worship apple & jobs, when in reality Apple fans pale by comparison to the religious devotion of the MS worshipers.

Saying that a comment is a troll is not a personal insult, trolling is the act of throwing out an intentionally controversial statement (normally in an enthusiasts forum)
Calling someone a troll means that they are not really arguing honestly, but are in fact just making an intentionally statement simply to “stir the pot” and cause controversy.

Unfortunately we live in a time where where people are paid to make these kind of posts and blogs (i.e. astroturfing)
Whenever I see a post that simply doesn’t conform to a reasonable interpretation of reality (like the current talking point that is being constantly blogged “Apple has lost it’s magic”, While the constant repetition may in fact just be “web echo” I think it more likely astroturfing.

and

“. . . we understand why iPhone 4S is different from iPhone 4 and that the 4S is simply the best damn smartphone ever made.”

MDN, 4 October 2011

Loss of functionality with Lion, iPhoto, TextEdit, Safari 6 single search pane etc.

Reasons to not visit/leave MDN:
MDN increasingly thinks they know better than ‘God’
Daily, almost schizophrenic hypocritical changes in direction ré Apple management.
Changing from fandom (= good) to fanbois (=really bad)
Too much snark.
Provocative political stance leading to page hits and sooo much party based ‘beat the crap out of the opposition’ postings (tho’ as a Brit, it is highly amusing).
MDN posting replies??? What is THAT all about?

How many revolutions do you really want? Isn’t it better for the occasional revolutionary thing to then evolve into something much better? Evolution gives us compatibility and a coherent ecosystem. Apple is willing to jettison the past to move forward, but balance is needed. Of course it depends what you define as evolution v revolution. Was the iPad a revolution? After we already had the iPhone and the Touch?

Are Samsung revolutionising their phones? No, they have evolved them with bigger screens, faster CPU etc, none of which is necessarily better. A faster CPU can be a sign of more power availability, but it can just as well be a sign of greater power need through inefficient software or hardware, such as adding more RAM just to show a bigger number to customer. Screen size is a choice, it’s where you make your compromise. All screens are always the wrong size. Even the iPhone is bigger than you really want a phone to be, and even the Samsung Galaxy III is smaller than you want for browsing the web. You have to compromise.

How many revolutions did Steve Jobs actually give us? In how many years? Most of the time under him we saw a few great innovations evolve to become better.

Yes, Steve Jobs hired Scully, proving that promoting Cook does not make Cook a sure thing. But it also proves Steve make mistakes. Bloody big ones. Eric Schmidt as a friend and on the board? How could that go wrong?

And where did the ‘Siri is crap’ come from? Where have you expressed this view before? You’ve raised questions about it, asking in a poll whether it got summer in the months after launch, but this ’20% accuracy’ and the view it was a nothing (and Beta) feature of the 4S is, for me anyway, out of the blue. I saw no clue that MDN views it as such a failure.

What business case is there for dumping Samsung as a supplier? There’s a revenge case, for sure. And if you can do it, why not? But to take any risks, to do it with unnecessary haste, will achieve exactly what? Will Samsung go broke and be unable to afford to continue ripping Apple off? Will it serve as a punishment so severe they’ll realise the error of their ways and turn over a new leaf?

The MacBook Pro and Air have shown only predictable improvements? What did you want? Is anything else possible at the moment? Doesn’t MDN often stand by the point that Apple knows when to implement something? While others run off with the newest technology and install it, no matter what the effect on batter life or usability? Under Steve Jobs we didn’t get copy/paste till they figured how to do it right. We didn’t get 3G until the battery impact was acceptable. While everyone else put 4G on, that pretty much no one could make use of, Apple waited. They waited for better battery life, smaller size and maybe even a chance that the user could actually make use of it. Samsung didn’t care, the engineers stuck it in because the marketing guys demanded it. I thought this is part of what Apple does. Tremendous innovations that really work well and evolve over over time.

MDN does this. They ‘defend’ Apple over everything, while all their negative thoughts are suppressed, probably making that portrait in the attic grow ever more hideous. Then one day they can’t take it anymore and they stomp around the office with a purple face and rage against all the evil Apple has done. The iPhone 4 antennae was the most spectacular example, I think they were almost sectioned over it, although they apologised for going off the rails on that one. MDN is always destined to be the biggest Apple supporter or the biggest hater. Nothing in between will do. They have warned of this, as they have repeatedly declared that, watch out, because if Apple does start to go wrong, they will tell us. And Apple. And everyone. MDN are the guardians of Apple, their conscience and their ultimate saviour. We need not look for signs Apple is deviating, MDN are watching closely for us. When they go wrong MDN will pass judgement. No one else’s judgement will do.

I thought everyone knew he was a paid shill for Dell and Microsoft who pooped on everything Apple did.
Really need to rethink coming here for news.