However next tech lived in sun, it brought up the borland c++ compiler. Yes just read the history of borlands quattro. Which was built paralell to the c++ compiler.

There is also GNU/Step who keeps up with cocoa compatibility. They just lack a modern UI engine.

Next vas not a failure and it changed it’s name to Apple. Alost nothing is left of the old Mac OS, which is on good and bad. I still miss many clever features in MacOS that has gotten dumbed down in OSX. One e.g. is it’s way to handle file assosiations. It was technically limited, but very clever. Nothing has been so clever as the mac’s way to handle it. Except maybe OpenDoc, but unforinately that produkt failed.

Still OSX and iOS is mostly all NeXT Step. But im not so sure of if it is as good as NeXT Step or Open Step was in it’s time. Can’t really tell i’ve had to few moments with next step. But I’ve read about it since I was a lad.

Steve Jobs NeXT was a completely failed product.

The OS years later became a valuable thing when combined with the large market of Apple products.

Steve Jobs hired John Sculley and spent a lot of time convincing him to come to Apple.

Steve Jobs was a terrible executive when he was at Apple the first time. He was a good founder, but he was terrible manager. He became an excellent manager largely because he learned from the experience of being fired. See his Stanford commencement speech.

All John Scullley did in the recent article was compliment Apple. That simple act caused MDN and many of its deranged readers, who for some reason harbor decades old hatreds, to send out the hateful and ignorant post. MDN is becoming an embarrassment in its lame attempts to get hits to the site.

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Who smiled as she rode on a tiger.
They returned from the ride,
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And a smile on the face of the tiger.

They don’t own the TV market so can’t lose a game they don’t have.

Scully was CEO when the MS contract was drafted and signed that allowed them to copy the Mac OS.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Consider Sculley’s claim to fame at Pepsi, the thing that helped Pepsi overcome then dominant Coke, was form factor — flooding the market with every conceivable product variation — addressing consumer needs and leaving competitors no potential foothold.

This lesson was absorbed well by the student. Look what Steve / Apple did with the iPod — classic, mini, touch… Many observers scoffed at “cannibalization” yet each addressed a different market segment and “competitors” had no safe haven.

Consider what Apple is about to do with the iPad Mini. Frankly, how many people will be buying a Nook or a Kindle in a couple of years? Probably about the same number buying a Zune…

laides and gentlemen, john sculley…
“bla bla bla bla… and bla bla bla… and let’s not leave out bla bla bla… “

Click MDN’s “bozo” link and learn something for a change.

Also, for others in this thread:
1. The Newton was not the direct technological predecessor to iPhone/ iPad.
2. Apple ceased to exist when they bought NeXT. NeXT took over Apple, they just kept the name. NeXT is the foundation of the most successful technology company ever built. Without NeXT, there is no OS X or iOS.
3. Sculley was and is a fscking bozo.

Sculley actually admired and respected Jobs. He didn’t want him to leave. He just thought he was a loose cannon (and back the he was) and needed some constraint. It was the board who forced him to resign. Sculley didn’t want Steve Jobs to resign. He was aware that Steve was the heart and soul of Apple. And he acknowledges his mistake.

Yes, he’s guilty of many mistakes. But he doesn’t deserve to rot in hell of burn on a stake.

Still Apple is well on their way.

Apple TV and an iPad or iPhone or again cables are another method.

Most people already have half the equipment needed.

and Apple already owns the living room

I have all of the above including a couple of 1080P TVs, so I have no need for an Apple branded TV. I don't think anyone has been holding off buying a TV because Apple doesn't make one.

You could buy any brand of TV and a Mac mini for a reasonable price as well.

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