Comments on: Google has the most to lose in war with Apple http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/ Apple and Mac News Fri, 24 May 2013 07:16:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Sean http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1019139 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:25:39 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1019139 Google makes “8 times” more money from iOS than Android. There is nothing to gain from being left out of the game.

]]> By: Jeff Rey http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018786 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:28:20 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018786 This article fails to mention that Google also has the most to gain from this war

]]> By: MacFreek http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018462 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:12:06 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018462 Consumers will benefit from the competition.

]]> By: @Thelonious http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018422 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:08:48 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018422 I’d argue that the way Google is handling the public relations side of things makes them look like cynical, two-faced, manipulative bastards.

The best way Apple can counter them is to not sink to their level.

]]> By: MacHeadB http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018420 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:38:17 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018420 Apple doesn’t need to copy Google in any regards.

]]> By: praus http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018404 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:35:52 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018404 how does it compare to duck duck go or even google/yahoo?

]]> By: qka http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018400 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:20:51 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018400 Ixquick has picture and video search.

]]> By: qka http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018398 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:19:31 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018398 I use ixquick.com for search. They advertise themselves as the world’s most private search engine. They claim not to record your IP address, nor use tracking cookies. They do not collect or share any personal information.

On July 14th, 2008 Ixquick was awarded the first European Privacy Seal. Ixquick is the first and only EU-approved search engine.

https://ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html

]]> By: 0zzie9O3 http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018393 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:06:54 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018393 Rue the day.

]]> By: LLIBSETAG http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018380 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:25:32 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018380 He said “rue”… Ha Ha!

]]> By: chefpastry http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018379 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:23:09 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018379 Apple haters are nothing new. Haters will be haters no matter what Apple does. Let them use Android/Google. Let them sacrifice all their personal info. They deserve it.

]]> By: Ansel http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018364 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:31:41 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018364 Did the same ….. Using Yahoo and Yelp ….. Yelp has a ways to go!

]]> By: twimoon1 http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018360 Fri, 10 Aug 2012 01:04:52 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018360 Here’s a simple example of what Apple could do, and it would not cost them very much:
Post on their website, that if you apply for and get a government grant to find a cure for cancer that you can call a special # at Apple and they will supply you with whatever Apple hardware you need for your research. They could have it be Cancer, Heart Disease, etc, whatever diseases they want to include.
It would allow them to contribute something meaningful to important research, get good PR, and make a difference where it matters. Apple employees (including Steve Jobs) would benefit directly from cancer research.
They could partner with other successful charities in a similar way.

]]> By: Apple is Always Right http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018344 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:50:28 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018344 Web (not internet) will be irrelevant in some years… so who needs search anyway?
Like Flash… who needs Flash nowdays? Apple is the player.
Google = Easy way to porn, pirate media, invasion of privacy, your photoshoped photos by trools… shit blogs, nasty comments, phishing, malware, cookies, ads and more ads.
Kill Google is easy… and there’s already a roadmap.

“Apple Acquires Chomp; App Store Search And Discovery To Be Completely Revamped”

]]> By: praus http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018341 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:47:40 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018341 One of the things I don’t see no Duck Duck Go that I use Google and now Yahoo! for is picture and video search. If Duck Duck Go had those, I’d probably use them instead.

]]> By: Aaryn http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018339 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:41:11 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018339 I still use Google everyday on my Mac.

]]> By: Jax44 http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018336 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:23:37 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018336 Kanga Rue

]]> By: Philanthropist http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018323 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:40:06 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018323 What you’re missing is that Google Maps and YouTube won’t come pre-installed. In the case of Maps, Apple’s new Maps app promises to be superior, in part because it’s using vector graphics instead of bitmaps–and there won’t be advertising. Most users won’t install the Google Maps App that everyone is assuming is coming to the iOS App Store.

In the case of YouTube, there really isn’t much of a point to a standalone YouTube app anymore, with YouTube’s library supporting HTML5.

]]> By: Gk http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018322 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:37:42 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018322 Hahaha that would be one of the sweetest revenge moves ever.

Unfortunately unlike Apple – who puts their crown jewels in everyone’s hands to examine in detail (and copy like Samsung did) – Google’s are locked up in their servers.

But if anyone could pull it off now it’d be Apple… Microsoft had the whole game in their hands to do this, but seems to have been distracted.

]]> By: Rorschach http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018321 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:37:25 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018321 Really? Like having to pay millions in fines in Europe for snarfing up private wifi data after spoofing Safari with cookies; that sound like ‘good public relations’ to you?
What ‘Google Science Fair’? First I’ve heard of that.
What ‘Better apps for Apple tech’? Details, please, ‘cos I’m struggling to think of one.
And ‘I Hate Apple’ backlash cult? Are you frackin’ serious?
Only among the Freetards and Fandroids with their obsession with Androids purported ‘openness’
There’s a word that’s on the tip of my tongue, can’t quite think of it…,
Oh yeah, I know what it is!
Troll.

]]> By: Ubermac http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018309 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:08:47 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018309 Apple shoud copy Google search and offer it for free to advertisers.

]]> By: Karl Snow http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018307 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:07:33 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018307 Agree with you on “Apple has to do what Apple is good at..” They are the best – sure, but for “others” to be aware/know that they have to be informed of those good products. That also includes positive PR/Marketing as Thelonious Mac refers to and says rightly that “Wars are fought on many fronts” -it is not necessary as you say to “constantly shout from the rooftops”, but at least do it instead (constantlyl) down below from the streets :-)

So Apple, shout it out who you are and what you stand for – only the best – on many fronts, as from the rooftops as below in the streets.

]]> By: Paul http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018297 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:48:56 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018297 Better still, give away advertising for 1/2 the google rate. If that don’t do it then give it away for 1/3 the google rate. In cricket parlence, bowl them a googlie and hit them in the googlies.

]]> By: russ http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018291 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:39:53 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018291 I hope Apple buys DuckDuck and then devours googles lunch.

]]> By: Arnold Ziffel http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018289 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:39:15 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018289 Me, too. Been DuckDuckGoing it for search for at least the past 6 months, and prior to that, I used Scroogle.org, which, sadly, no longer exists.

When iOS 6 arrives (with Apple Maps), I’ll be 100% Gaagle free !

]]> By: mredofcourse http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018285 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:36:43 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018285 “In fact in the case of YouTube Apple does not have any competing alternative. Do they?”

They could. This would be the easiest thing for Apple to take on right now. There’s really not much to building a YouTube competitor for Apple. The overall user experience architecture of a YouTube competitor is pretty simple and straight forward. Keep it clean and simple (Apple can’t help but do that!), and while the backend is complex enough to be a barrier to entry for a startup, it’s not that big of a deal for Apple to just put on a list of data center development.

The other issue is the content. This would normally be a barrier for other content focused sites that have such tremendously large libraries of content. However, for YouTube, being user generated, the producers of the content want to reach as many users as possible. If a competitive service from Apple were launched, and it was free, producers would jump at it because it would represent another (free) channel of distribution that from day one has a potential audience in the hundreds of millions.

The only issue I see with Apple doing a YouTube competitive service has to do with traditional content providers, and what impact it would have with Apple’s relationship with them. Apple would need to do a much better job enforcing copyright than Google is.

On the other hand, the line between traditional content and user generated content could blur. There’s nothing stopping Apple from having a service where user generated content could be free or producer-set priced with Apple getting 30%, allowing the videos (and audio) to be streamed, and optionally downloaded or iClouded.

]]> By: Jose http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018284 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:35:58 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018284 i use http://www.duckduckgo.com I think its way better then google and wish apple would implement it as one of the search options we could choose from.

]]> By: praus http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018281 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:33:54 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018281 Not having those Google services available by default means people have to go looking for them. I’d be willing to bet that the average person will not go looking for those Google services on their own. They’ll use the Apple alternatives. Maybe Apple doesn’t have a YouTube alternative yet but they may come up with one and/or promote Vimeo (which is a much better video service IMO)

]]> By: Tom http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018280 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:31:28 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018280 I miss the old Apple ‘Sherlock’ search. I thought it returned the best and tightest searches of anyone. With no ads or paid placements, as I recall.

]]> By: krquet http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018278 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:29:20 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018278 The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

]]> By: Jesse http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018275 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:25:40 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018275 How about Rue Paul? Not good enough for ya?

]]> By: Jeff II http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018273 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:24:53 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018273 Jumping in with a plug for Duck Duck Go for search.

]]> By: mredofcourse http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018271 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:23:29 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018271 I totally agree, especially with this part:
“This is all helping to create this burgeoning ‘I Hate Apple’ backlash cult that Apple isn’t doing much to counter.”

Apple should survey the “I hate Apple because ____” buzz and then realize it wouldn’t take much to turn much of that around. Sure, some of it is completely contrary to Apple’s design philosophy, but much of it is just perception and easily resolved.

]]> By: HolyMackerel http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018261 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:10:16 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018261 What if Apple provided a ‘good enough’ search for free? No ads. And made it the default on MacOS and iOS. Google would crumble. You can’t compete with free!

]]> By: botvinnik http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018257 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:03:16 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018257 oops, yes it did, mea culpa.

]]> By: botvinnik http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018256 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:02:07 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018256 The story failed to mention Siri.

]]> By: Paul http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018254 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:00:43 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018254 As much as I want to see Google fail, I don’t see how a lack of Maps and YouTube is going to do any harm. They just build their own apps. The competing Apple apps have to be so much better to do any real harm. In fact in the case of YouTube Apple does not have any competing alternative. Do they?

]]> By: Alexander http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018253 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:59:21 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018253 +1

]]> By: BoC http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018252 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:57:32 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018252 Google stands to loose big time because all of Apple’s products collectively are starting to look like they will be the majority of computers used by people within a few years.

That will really hurt Google.

]]> By: BoC http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018250 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:55:58 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018250 And Blekko for an add free search is there too.

]]> By: auren http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018248 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:54:53 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018248 Apple is a game changer. Just look at their trend line; dropped floppy drives, switched to flat screens, SSD, etc. etc.

And oh yes, Flash is dead in the mobile world.

Google, be afraid… be very afraid. You picked the wrong company to piss off.

]]> By: auren http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018246 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:51:04 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018246 Same here, been using it for months. Very satisfied.

]]> By: praus http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018242 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:46:46 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018242 I don’t think Apple needs to do that. Apple needs to do what Apple is good at, make great products. The best revenge is living well.
Apple already gives to charity and does charitable things. The difference? Apple doesn’t constantly shout it from the rooftops, they’re too busy making the next great gadget.

]]> By: danilko1 http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018239 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:44:34 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018239 Rue!

Eat rue pie!

How’s that rue?

]]> By: praus http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018238 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:43:55 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018238 I’ve been using Yahoo! for search on my Mac for the past week or so. It really is a pretty good web search. I see very little if any difference between it and Google in terms of search.

]]> By: Thelonious Mac http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/09/google-has-the-most-to-lose-in-war-with-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1018237 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 20:42:57 +0000 http://macdailynews.com/?p=87557#comment-1018237 Have you noticed how well Google is handling the public opinion side of things. They keep complimenting Apple in public and saying things like, ‘Apple makes technology that should be shared,’ (paraphrasing). Google is also out there creating better apps for Apple tech than Apple in many cases and “giving” it away free.

This is all helping to create this burgeoning “I Hate Apple” backlash cult that Apple isn’t doing much to counter.

I can’t look anywhere without seeing some swell thing that Google is doing “for the public good.” Google’s science fair, for instance. Where’s Apple’s science fair?

With $117 billion smackeroos in the bank, Apple can afford to be a big magnanimous. At least as much as Google.

Wars are fought on many fronts.

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