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	<title>Comments on: Samsung supplier employs child workers, forces excessive hours under harsh conditions in China, group says</title>
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		<title>By: Mäkkihöperö</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/08/07/samsung-supplier-employs-child-workers-forces-excessive-hours-under-harsh-conditions-in-china-group-says/comment-page-1/#comment-1017266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mäkkihöperö]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But that fruit company from California has already been selected as a scapegoat!
It even has the most passionate enviers. 
This must be some mistake in PR…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that fruit company from California has already been selected as a scapegoat!<br />
It even has the most passionate enviers.<br />
This must be some mistake in PR…</p>
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		<title>By: deasystems</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deasystems]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daisey&#039;s morbid obesity has nothing to do with &quot;the grace of God.&quot; He&#039;s a fat pig--a creation of his own making. Had he donated the excess food he chose to consume, he could have saved many Chinese children from starvation! He disgusts me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daisey&#8217;s morbid obesity has nothing to do with &#8220;the grace of God.&#8221; He&#8217;s a fat pig&#8211;a creation of his own making. Had he donated the excess food he chose to consume, he could have saved many Chinese children from starvation! He disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Currie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Currie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walmart: Case in point.

Buy cheap stuff, ignore where it came from and the consequences of sending your money there. China: Criminal Nation, thanks you. Suckers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart: Case in point.</p>
<p>Buy cheap stuff, ignore where it came from and the consequences of sending your money there. China: Criminal Nation, thanks you. Suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Downunder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Downunder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 19:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know it really irks me that so many here (including MDN) have to stoop to insulting Mike Daisey based on his weight/physical appearance. It&#039;s just wrong! There but for the grace of God go all of us. I won&#039;t get into a debate here about weight gain etc. but to pick on someone&#039;s physical appearance is hurtful (not just to the target of the vitriol) and totally unnecessary. 

By all means - call the guy for lying and being dis-ingenious. Call the guy for perpetrating untruths.  Call the guy a crook. Call him an arsehole. All of that and more - but please, grow the fuck up and lay off the personal insults. The only serve to lessen your arguments. 

If you&#039;re not overweight then great - good for you. But for those who are (and they are for a number of reasons) it&#039;s just pathetic and childish to demean them for that. 

With the likes of Mike Daisey there&#039;s plenty to say about his performance and his disingenuous behavior - enough to make a clear and succinct point without stooping to demeaning his physical appearance. 

End of rant. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know it really irks me that so many here (including MDN) have to stoop to insulting Mike Daisey based on his weight/physical appearance. It&#8217;s just wrong! There but for the grace of God go all of us. I won&#8217;t get into a debate here about weight gain etc. but to pick on someone&#8217;s physical appearance is hurtful (not just to the target of the vitriol) and totally unnecessary. </p>
<p>By all means &#8211; call the guy for lying and being dis-ingenious. Call the guy for perpetrating untruths.  Call the guy a crook. Call him an arsehole. All of that and more &#8211; but please, grow the fuck up and lay off the personal insults. The only serve to lessen your arguments. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not overweight then great &#8211; good for you. But for those who are (and they are for a number of reasons) it&#8217;s just pathetic and childish to demean them for that. </p>
<p>With the likes of Mike Daisey there&#8217;s plenty to say about his performance and his disingenuous behavior &#8211; enough to make a clear and succinct point without stooping to demeaning his physical appearance. </p>
<p>End of rant. </p>
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		<title>By: Gk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of the three articles you quoted only one is a real article, the last two by David Pogue are part of the NYT Blogs.

Now what&#039;s the title of the real article?
&quot;In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad&quot;

The title targets explicitly Apple&#039;s top selling device. Where does it say that other manufacturers are also involved? You have to comb through the article to find that out.

So no they didn&#039;t handle it truthfully and honestly. Try again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the three articles you quoted only one is a real article, the last two by David Pogue are part of the NYT Blogs.</p>
<p>Now what&#8217;s the title of the real article?<br />
&#8220;In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad&#8221;</p>
<p>The title targets explicitly Apple&#8217;s top selling device. Where does it say that other manufacturers are also involved? You have to comb through the article to find that out.</p>
<p>So no they didn&#8217;t handle it truthfully and honestly. Try again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Coal Cracker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coal Cracker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree. But doubtful we will see it on the front page of the New York Times anytime soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. But doubtful we will see it on the front page of the New York Times anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: iGads</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iGads]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on, it&#039;s not like Samdung gives a shit. And the people who buy their products or report on their products don&#039;t give a shit either.

Really, what would you expect from and a company run by thieves. Unfortunately you don&#039;t have to have morals to be successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, it&#8217;s not like Samdung gives a shit. And the people who buy their products or report on their products don&#8217;t give a shit either.</p>
<p>Really, what would you expect from and a company run by thieves. Unfortunately you don&#8217;t have to have morals to be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent Provocateur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Agent Provocateur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Apple is not the only electronics company doing business within a troubling supply system. Bleak working conditions have been documented at factories manufacturing products for Dell, Hewlett-Packard, I.B.M., Lenovo, Motorola, Nokia, Sony, Toshiba and others.&quot;

THE iECONOMY
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
By CHARLES DUHIGG and DAVID BARBOZA
Published: January 25, 2012
The New York Times

&quot;The story so far: Last month, The New York Times published a front-page article highlighting working conditions at a factory in China owned by Foxconn Technology, where Apple’s products are built. The problems  included fatal accidents and employees injured while using a toxic chemical that can cause nerve damage. (Although Apple is the poster child for Foxconn, just about all of our electronics are made in the same Chinese factories, as the Times article noted. Foxconn also builds products for Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, Asus, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Intel, I.B.M., Lenovo, Microsoft, Motorola, Netgear, Nintendo, Nokia and Vizio. The Xbox, the PlayStation and the Amazon Kindle are made here.) The article set off a firestorm of protest, petitions and demonstrations.&quot;

What Cameras Inside Foxconn Found
February 23, 2012
By David Pogue
The New York Times

&quot;Apple is the poster child for the conditions at the Foxconn factory, and no wonder: it’s the most profitable electronics company. It makes a big, spectacular target. There’s an important factor, however, that seems to be largely missing from the conversation, though it was noted in the article: Apple isn’t the only company that builds electronics at Chinese factories. The truth is, almost all of them do.

Foxconn’s other clients are a Who’s Who of popular electronics. They build cellphones, TVs, computers, e-book readers, routers, circuit boards, game consoles and on and on. Its customers include Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Asus, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Intel, I.B.M., Lenovo, Microsoft, Motorola, Netgear, Nintendo, Nokia, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and Vizio.&quot;

The Dilemma of Cheap Electronics
February 9, 2012
By David Pogue
The New York Times

I think you need to issue a retraction. The Times handled it truthfully and honestly- despite the outcry of fanbois who have never held the NYT in their hand once, yet attacked a paper they do not read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apple is not the only electronics company doing business within a troubling supply system. Bleak working conditions have been documented at factories manufacturing products for Dell, Hewlett-Packard, I.B.M., Lenovo, Motorola, Nokia, Sony, Toshiba and others.&#8221;</p>
<p>THE iECONOMY<br />
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad<br />
By CHARLES DUHIGG and DAVID BARBOZA<br />
Published: January 25, 2012<br />
The New York Times</p>
<p>&#8220;The story so far: Last month, The New York Times published a front-page article highlighting working conditions at a factory in China owned by Foxconn Technology, where Apple’s products are built. The problems  included fatal accidents and employees injured while using a toxic chemical that can cause nerve damage. (Although Apple is the poster child for Foxconn, just about all of our electronics are made in the same Chinese factories, as the Times article noted. Foxconn also builds products for Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, Asus, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Intel, I.B.M., Lenovo, Microsoft, Motorola, Netgear, Nintendo, Nokia and Vizio. The Xbox, the PlayStation and the Amazon Kindle are made here.) The article set off a firestorm of protest, petitions and demonstrations.&#8221;</p>
<p>What Cameras Inside Foxconn Found<br />
February 23, 2012<br />
By David Pogue<br />
The New York Times</p>
<p>&#8220;Apple is the poster child for the conditions at the Foxconn factory, and no wonder: it’s the most profitable electronics company. It makes a big, spectacular target. There’s an important factor, however, that seems to be largely missing from the conversation, though it was noted in the article: Apple isn’t the only company that builds electronics at Chinese factories. The truth is, almost all of them do.</p>
<p>Foxconn’s other clients are a Who’s Who of popular electronics. They build cellphones, TVs, computers, e-book readers, routers, circuit boards, game consoles and on and on. Its customers include Amazon, Barnes &amp; Noble, Asus, Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Intel, I.B.M., Lenovo, Microsoft, Motorola, Netgear, Nintendo, Nokia, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and Vizio.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Dilemma of Cheap Electronics<br />
February 9, 2012<br />
By David Pogue<br />
The New York Times</p>
<p>I think you need to issue a retraction. The Times handled it truthfully and honestly- despite the outcry of fanbois who have never held the NYT in their hand once, yet attacked a paper they do not read.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s good to see Samsung slavishly copying Apple&#039;s manufacturing partner problems....



(that was sarcastic -- just in case your coffee is cold)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see Samsung slavishly copying Apple&#8217;s manufacturing partner problems&#8230;.</p>
<p>(that was sarcastic &#8212; just in case your coffee is cold)</p>
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		<title>By: jimg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just checked, nothing in NYT about this. But two articles about Apple - one about YouTube removal from OS6 and one about security breach on Apple accounts. They are beginning more and more to look like FOX - balanced reporting (with a biased spin).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checked, nothing in NYT about this. But two articles about Apple &#8211; one about YouTube removal from OS6 and one about security breach on Apple accounts. They are beginning more and more to look like FOX &#8211; balanced reporting (with a biased spin).</p>
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		<title>By: pablorph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pablorph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No need to be kind to this machine, it CAN handle Big Mike.

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?29172-Anyone-here-know-something-about-stackers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to be kind to this machine, it CAN handle Big Mike.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?29172-Anyone-here-know-something-about-stackers" rel="nofollow">http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?29172-Anyone-here-know-something-about-stackers</a></p>
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		<title>By: correctu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[correctu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple&#039;s suppliers pay their employees pennies upon pennies more than Samsung&#039;s!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s suppliers pay their employees pennies upon pennies more than Samsung&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[troy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Move along, nothing to see here, it is just samsumg abusing children not Apple.. move along....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move along, nothing to see here, it is just samsumg abusing children not Apple.. move along&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lordthree</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lordthree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bout godamn time they started looking at some of these other companies besides Apple...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bout godamn time they started looking at some of these other companies besides Apple&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: disposableidentity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[disposableidentity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This better make the front page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This better make the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: althegeo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[althegeo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Daisey, or as his friends say, Fat Bastard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Daisey, or as his friends say, Fat Bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: NCG598</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NCG598]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Daisey needs to haul his own fat arse. Be kind to machines, no need to break good equipment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Daisey needs to haul his own fat arse. Be kind to machines, no need to break good equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: DeRS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeRS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading mass media, I thought Apple is the only company that outsources assembly and manufacturing to a third party partners in China.

Obviously, this news is a fake. This China facility must be actually making products for Apple, as all of China plants.

(And, by the way, it was Apple who came up with that slavery thing from the past -- if you did not know.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading mass media, I thought Apple is the only company that outsources assembly and manufacturing to a third party partners in China.</p>
<p>Obviously, this news is a fake. This China facility must be actually making products for Apple, as all of China plants.</p>
<p>(And, by the way, it was Apple who came up with that slavery thing from the past &#8212; if you did not know.)</p>
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