Comments on: Apple is killing Dell and Hewlett-Packard

By: Rip Ragged

Rip Ragged — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:58:05 +0000

I'm gonna miss them.

By: Snoop dogg

Snoop dogg — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:57:01 +0000

What Dell boy should do is turn off the lights, shut the door and give all the money back to the share holders. 😊 any Dell share holders are a bunch of loosers and they deserve the financial losses they are suffering, serves them right for investingnin a crap company.

By: auren

auren — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:35:11 +0000

Why use a scanner? I now use TurboScan app on my iPhone. Cost a couple of bucks and it’s BETTER than my Canon scanner which I’m now selling.

By: crisrod63

crisrod63 — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:13:09 +0000

HP. This article is talking about a market that HP had already decided to exit. Remember sometime last year when HP announced that it will no longer make PCs. There business is elsewhere, they know it and they are diversified. HP has not made to much on PC or years now. Yet, they have a thriving server business, the best printers, and digital printing presses, to name a few other things not mentioned in this article.

By: vanfruniken

vanfruniken — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 06:33:58 +0000

But who will be making those boxes?

By: rainer_d

rainer_d — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 05:45:52 +0000

Apple will know better than to catch a falling knife.
Who needs rack-mounted servers?
In a couple of years, most of these will be outsourced to cloud-computing providers.

By: Hg Wells

Hg Wells — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 05:15:09 +0000

Epson was not stepping up to the plate to support their printers on Macs for some time, especially in the transition to OS X as I recall. Perhaps you were with HP at the time and hadn’t noticed. Epson has dropped the call, foot dragging, at other times, too.

Their support of wireless printing for Apple products also dragged and were not a clean as HP.

However, like you, I also like Epson printers. It’s just that I’m not going to blindlessly say how great Epson is. I’d been drooling for one of their top end pro printers for years, just waiting for certain upgrades which have now occurred. But, looks like I’ll be waiting a bit longer now…

By: correctu

correctu — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 04:56:31 +0000

I wonder if Apple might get back into the rack mount servers business next year. Or something that works as such.

By: trevorteusc

trevorteusc — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 04:51:21 +0000

SIDAGTMBTTS

By: Nightstar

Nightstar — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:44:45 +0000

And a ( millions ) dollar short!

By: Rip Ragged

Rip Ragged — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:37:33 +0000

I’m gonna miss Dell and HP.

By: medelegant

medelegant — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:25:41 +0000

Bazinga!

By: medelegant

medelegant — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:23:24 +0000

Real Apple ][+ owners know how to spell it.

Just kidding.

By: qka

qka — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:29:43 +0000

FWIW, Compaq is part of HP. So they didn’t die, they merged. HP still sells Compaq branded hardware.

By: Pridon

Pridon — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:27:20 +0000

T announced that it was switching to iPads as POS device – liklky replacing Windows PC desktops. Today, Monsanto switching from laptops to iPads for its sales force. Likely replacing Windows laptops. Windows 8, too little too late.

By: Netcruizer

Netcruizer — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:18:25 +0000

LOL!
I spewed my coffee over this one.

By: MacChiita

MacChiita — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:29:34 +0000

Is this a mere coincidence or every large partner of mafiasoft dies at same time? Look at Compac, Dell, HP, etc… Who’s is next?

By: Office of Resettlement, Hell

Office of Resettlement, Hell — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:21:19 +0000

Look, I realize it may be funny to you but it is no laughing matter down here. We are up to our eyeballs in disgruntled Dell and HP users and if you drop those clowns down here, it is gonna get nasty. It’s your mess – you clean it up.

By: smitty

smitty — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:07:51 +0000

C’mon, a true fan spells that with a “][” !

By: silverhawk1

silverhawk1 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:31:14 +0000

When will M$ purchase a computer maker?

By: silverhawk1

silverhawk1 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:29:58 +0000

I wonder what Ballmer had to do with HP losing their nerve?

By: silverhawk1

silverhawk1 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:11:22 +0000

Buy Brothers or Canon, they always seem to update.

By: silverhawk1

silverhawk1 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:09:37 +0000

How many patents does Dell own? I’m thinking not too many so not much value at the end.

By: Guy Jones

Guy Jones — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:44:39 +0000

“Both of these companies had a game plan for a future devoid of tablet and cloud computing.”
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Isn’t the notion of a “game plan” for a future devoid of tablet/mobile/cloud computing something of an oxymoron? It’s like having a battle plan in place to surrender. Ceding the aforementioned market segments leaves HP and Dell with what, exactly, that can support a viable computing business over the long term? Stagnating desktop PC sales with their slim profit margins? A crowded server market and enterprise support services offered by any number of similar companies? I think we’re going to witness a very slow, drawn-out, painful and inexorable decline for both of these companies, ultimately culminating in an acquisition at a fire sale price (likely HP, with all its patents) and total demise (Dell).

By: mossman

mossman — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:33:32 +0000

Blame Carly Fiorina. She turned HP’s consumer side from a respectable electronics maker to a printer supplies company.

By: TomInTulsa

TomInTulsa — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:30:18 +0000

You’re kidding right? anyone who says HP makes the “best” Apple printers hasn’t tried any other printers. I had been using HP Printers almost exclusively for over 20 years. Then one day when my L7500 died after only about a year I “upgraded” to the 6500 and well that was enough to make me try something new and thank God it did. I now have an Epson printer and I NEVER knew printing could be so good. To be honest I had heard several of my PeeCee friends brag how their printers worked right out of the box – that never happend to me. With each new printer I would carry it around the house plugging it into each of my Macs trying to get them to recognize them. This new Epson was AMAZING. HP has been dead to me for a year, I think the market is just catching up.

By: rp2010

rp2010 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:27:37 +0000

I see no future on Dell. The desktop market is slowly but surely disappearing. Where do they go? They sat on their laurels and do not have an alternate market that they can transition to. They have all their eggs in one dieing market.

By: greggthurman

greggthurman — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:21:55 +0000

“HP tried to be bold by acquiring WebOS, but they lost their nerve and threw it away.”

Biggest mistake HP management has made in the last decade. The only salvation HP had was a competing technology wherein they had total control over the product. webOS was mature enough that HP could have developed a competitive tablet they didn’t have to immediately terminate.

By: Synth

Synth — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:05:26 +0000

Exactly.
Maybe that’s why the upgrade price for Win 8 will only be $40. I have a feeling the OEMs are getting a much better price this time around.

When PCs were all around $2000 and above, a $50 license wasn’t too crazy. When computers start at $500….

By: ken1w

ken1w — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:02:26 +0000

It’s actually Microsoft that is “killing” Dell and HP. It’s Windows that makes their PCs into mostly indistinguishable commodity items. Customer make purchase decisions based mostly on price, because a PC from Dell or HP or any other PC maker (except Apple) is essentially the same; they all run Windows. And if it’s a fight for the lowest price, profit heads toward zero.

They are trapped; if they “innovate” and try to make their PCs meaningfully distinctive, that adds to cost. If their PC model costs more, no one buys it because “it’s just another Windows PC.” HP tried to be bold by acquiring WebOS, but they lost their nerve and threw it away.

Meanwhile, customers who buy Macs don’t make the decision based on price. Price is certainly a consideration, but the main reason a Mac is selected over a Windows PC is because a Mac IS “meaningfully distinctive.” Because only Apple makes Macs, Apple can balance profitability with affordability.

So don’t blame Apple for being the only PC maker who does not rely on Microsoft to provide the customers’ user experience.

By: Michael K.

Michael K. — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:45:53 +0000

Die, DEll, Die and all the rest of the window junk computer sellers. HP if it does go under will be missed as it was a giant when I was growing up along with IBM. Nothing stays the same.

By: stableos

stableos — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:42:20 +0000

Same with several flat bed scanners for me . . .
effers

By: Ubermacs

Ubermacs — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:28:00 +0000

True, HP made the best Mac printers.

Sorry to see that American icon wither.

By: Larry

Larry — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:15:09 +0000

Do not get me wrong. I been a Apple Fan Boy since the Apple 2. I wish nothing happens to HP but all the other PC makers can die a horrible death. They all make crap!! HP has been good to Apple as far as supporting the platform. Through Apple’s lean times they were still there making printers while everyone else stopped and considered Apple was dead. Let us not forget HP made the first printers compatible with iOS AirPrint without any issues like the other companies still have. My OfficeJet 6500A Plus works like a champ with my MacBook Pro, iPhone 4 and iPad.

By: Ballmer's left nut

Ballmer's left nut — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:14:31 +0000

The big question is, is Ballmer the monkey on Dell’s & HP’s back?

By: clyde2801

clyde2801 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:09:00 +0000

Good! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve upgraded Mac OS only to find that a printer I bought a year or two ago wouldn’t be supported. Serves HP right!

As for Dell, who really cares?

By: Larry

Larry — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:08:37 +0000

I wonder how HP and Dell feel about their “partnership” with MIcrosoft these days. Microsoft makes margins well north of 40% on the Windows and Office monopolies. OEMs make less than 5% margins, sometimes close to 0%. Now that’s a Microsoft Tax. Parasites would describe their relationships with their victims as “partnerships”.

By: pdr400

pdr400 — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:07:15 +0000

“Dell! You’re getting a bankruptcy settlement!”

By: Apple is Always Right

Apple is Always Right — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:02:01 +0000

RIP… HP and Dell… Welcome to Hell.

By: dslarsen

dslarsen — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:50:33 +0000

Once they canned the Dell ‘dood’ their downfall was assured. “Dude! You’re getting a Dell!”