But after watching the press hound Bush for eight years and then seeing this failure get either a pass or mild questioning, I have come to appreciate his grace even more.

I was aware when Congress voted to go to war and when the Democrats walked it back to gain political points.

I was watching when the Plame game was proven to be manufactured by her husband.

I was looking when the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans walked off their jobs and blamed the Feds for not protecting THEM from reality.

I have read the recounts of Florida by the New York Times and others that are still a myth to the über-left.

But I was also annoyed when he allowed the Democrats to continue their Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac charade hoping they would quid pro quo on the war. Of course, they didn’t.

I didn’t like the prescription drug law passed to woo moderates.

And nominating Harriet Miers for the SCOTUS was silly, even though she is probably more qualified than any other woman on the current court, but doing it to tell the Senate to get off their asses and start approving judges seems to have backfired.

I’m not swayed by ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN any more than I am by FOX or Rush. I listen and watch ALL of them.

Now you might believe Democrats were lied to about the war, that Valarie Plame is a martyr, or that Bush sent a hurricane to the Black South and then blocked aid after the SCOTUS illegally gave him the Presidency. If you are that simple, then you are not near as smart as I give you credit for…

I suppose that I have to give you credit for staying the course.

They are two completely different subjects, and you haven’t argued either effectively.

Use a name, stick with it, and quit hiding behind obscurity, because you make it hard to understand your point.

And if you don’t get my point, why argue? I have explained in detail. I don’t expect you to agree, but you make yourself to look like what Renaldo imagines Southerners to be….slow.

Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal! Nuff Said.

Last I checked, it’s not considered “showing someone up” to attack them personally by hurling unproven, questionable remarks and profanity at them? It wasn’t even creative.

Typical…

I’ve never been in sales, but when friends ask for advice I also do as you describe. This means I don’t always steer them towards Apple products, though I make it clear I don’t do support (free or otherwise) if they choose something else.

I too own a 64″ 3d 1080P Samsung Plasma and it just rocks. Not sure Apple will want to play in this arena anytime soon.

I do it just as I described above.

To suggest that all good salespeople are liars is not fair.

So little fellow…. NO Android here!

Samsung Group is huge and frankly known for it’s quality products and services hence why Apple to this day rely on them for chipsets, memory chips, displays and SSD (which I have in both my MBA 13 and MPB RD which is loaded to the gills)

Some folks on here are so consumed by Apple the brand that they simply cut themselves off from reality.

I am convinced that you are in fact an Android Boy as Apple Boys tend to be far more intelligent than you.

Read my post again fuck face and you will get my point. I love my Apple products but not to a point of no return.

As far as class warfare, he played the stereotypical “Dumb Southerner” card. In almost every instance I have seen people go down that road, they also imply a lack of social and financial affluence. That is why I brought up “class / regional warfare”.

As to Fox News, I hate it as much as every other news channel. They all spin the issues, and have very little factual reporting to enable people to make informed decisions themselves. (Albeit there are not that many capable of doing so anymore because they are told what they should believe from both sides of the party lines).

I choose to look at the facts and information before me, and make a rational, informed decision on how I feel.

Voting against my own social and economic well being? I don’t think so. We would ALL be better off with less government regulation in our lives and with less taxes for both individuals and corporations. That lets society control what is and is not acceptable based upon the people’s values and morals in their community,, and provides more money in the pockets of everyone (all social and economic classes). When everyone has more money in their pockets, they spend it. When they spend it, the economy grows. When the economy grows, we all benefit with more available jobs, competition for those jobs, and as a result, higher wages without the government telling us they are required.

With the additional spending, even at lower tax amounts, more revenue is collected by the government. (Look up the Laffer Curve).

Back to the whole point of my “over-reaction”- no one needs to walk into ATT and pretend to be from the South to be looked upon as uninformed and gullible. There are plenty of suckers everywhere.

You are of course right from the consumer POV.

From the store manager’s POV, a “good salesman” is exactly what Laughing_boy48 described. He moves product, they may be on commission so promotions or even continued employment depend on it.

Never mind returns; probably half the dissatisfied customers will never try returning it anyway.

Here’s some info for you on how Samsung makes their trillions in KRW (South Korean currency).

As far as I know, Apple doesn’t have a weapons or construction division.

I will say that Samsung makes a good tv, but I’ll be getting an iTv when Apple finally makes one.

Samsung industrial subsidiaries include:

Samsung Electronics (the world’s largest information technology company measured by 2011 revenues)

Samsung Heavy Industries (the world’s second-largest shipbuilder measured by 2010 revenues)

Samsung Techwin (weapons technology and optoelectronics)

Samsung Engineering and Samsung C&T (respectively the world’s 35th- and 72nd-largest construction companies)

Other notable subsidiaries include:

Samsung Life Insurance (the world’s 14th-largest insurance company)

Samsung Everland (the oldest theme park in South Korea)

Cheil Worldwide (the world’s 19th-largest advertising agency measured by 2010 revenues)

He’s right. Samsung Group counts their money in the trillions. Trillions of KRW (South Korean currency).

According to wikipedia:

In FY 2009, Samsung Group reported consolidated revenues of 220 trillion KRW ($172.5 billion). In FY 2010, Samsung reported consolidated revenues of 280 trillion KRW ($258 billion), and profits of 30 trillion KRW ($27.6 billion) (based upon a KRW-USD exchange rate of 1,084.5 KRW per USD, the spot rate as of 19 August 2011).[78] However it should be noted that these amounts do not include the revenues of all subsidiaries of the group which are based outside South Korea.[79]

Very sneaky Pat, but you should have been a little more clear on your ‘trillions’ statement.

Oh yeah, how does Samsung make all that cash?

Samsung Electronics (the world’s largest information technology company measured by 2011 revenues)

Samsung Heavy Industries (the world’s second-largest shipbuilder measured by 2010 revenues)

Samsung Techwin (weapons technology and optoelectronics)

Samsung Engineering and Samsung C&T (respectively the world’s 35th- and 72nd-largest construction companies)

Other notable subsidiaries include:
Samsung Life Insurance (the world’s 14th-largest insurance company)

Samsung Everland (the oldest theme park in South Korea)

Cheil Worldwide (the world’s 19th-largest advertising agency measured by 2010 revenues)

As far as I know, Apple doesn’t have a weapons or construction division.

Better being a “piece of work” than a piece of shit…
Your posts aren’t really worth responding to, but since I can’t stand hearing from misinformed trolls who are obviously being paid by Gaagle/Shamdung to invade our favorite site, I just had to call you out…
Again, “Pat”, I say, EAT SHIT AND DIE/FSCK OFF and leave us all in “piece” (sic) on this site.
Oh, and incidentally, I have never, nor would I ever even consider owning a POS Android-based product. Gaagle and Eric the Mole also need to ESAD for their theft of Apple’s iOS and EVERYONE’S private information via Street View, but “admitted to failing to delete as promised”: http://mashable.com/2012/07/27/google-streetview-fail/

Life has become harder today than it used to be. Free Speech is costly today, if you can find any. Humor? That is an old cultural activity that disappeared some time back.

I thought I’d alert you to that change, Renaldo. You may have missed the announcement of that a while back. Speaking only for me and risking mightily by saying so, I miss humor.

[Disclaimer: I mean absolutely nothing by any of this. I disparage no one and love and respect everyone and everything. For those offended by even that, I deny everything. This isn't me writing at all. Government required disclosure: There are four lies within this disclaimer.]

This said I do not give a cat’s meow about Samsung or Android as I do not use any of their products.

My point is if buying up an important cellular company made sense then Samsung would of done it years ago.

I do find it interesting that the same people who throw the same type of disparaging BS around about “Obamanation” and “libtards” get all self-righteous when the tables are turned and similar comments are directed back at them. Both sides are wrong. However, if you are going to be wrong, at least don’t be hypocritical about it.

A good salesman doesn’t lie to make a sale, and a good salesman doesn’t try to sell you what you don’t want.

A good salesman will listen to the customer, show them a product that fits their needs, and give them enough information to allow them to come to their own conclusion naturally, that it’s the best product for the job.

Don’t try to make the horse drink–make him thirsty.