The only defense of this garbage are the posts talking about how much they don’t like Obama. Pretty telling.

It didn’t take long for reality to seep in. and the truth be told.

Damn, MDN boys, are you so hateful of our President that you are willing to drop your own credibility as tech people to try & spew a lie that we all know is partisan crap???

You leach off of other writer’s work, and you have no integrity beyond your alliance to a political ideology that requires you to re-write recent history. Great Job.

Vint Cerf was there, watching it all develop. He says quite plainly that the U.S Government started the project.

I don’t think I’m exceptionally brilliant, I just don’t think this is very complicated.

Your logic is so poor I don’t have room to help you here. Besides, it has nothing to do with how socialist Obama is. I expect you want all corporations to go away and the “people” own all means of production. Because that works so well in communist China, Cuba, Venezuela. Even overthrowing the terrible government of South Africa by communists led to far greater poverty.

I think we needed to stop that madness (as did my longtime friend who is a high level manager in a state DOT) as our infrastructure is crumbling and the waste was unforgivable. The stimulus was just pouring water onto the ground, in an attempt to make it rain.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/23/wsjs-crovitz-creating-the-internet-and-getting/187284

Crovitz and the WSJ are part of News Corp now and are just contributors to the “Obama gets everything wrong” chorus. The corrupting influence of money corrodes everything and the WSJ is no exception. You don’t have to be on TV to jump the shark.

“But perhaps the most damning rebuttal comes from Michael Hiltzik, the author “Dealers of Lightning,” a history of Xerox PARC that Crovitz uses as his main source for material. “While I’m gratified in a sense that he cites my book,” writes Hiltzik, “it’s my duty to point out that he’s wrong. My book bolsters, not contradicts, the argument that the Internet had its roots in the ARPANet, a government project.”

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/07/23/yes-government-researchers-really-did-invent-the-internet/

Government in America may have been “of the people, by the people and for the people” at one time. Seems now that it is “of the dollar, by the dollar and for the dollar”, thanks to the legislation from the bench of the Supreme Court. I doubt that genie is ever going back in the bottle.

I’m going to share a hint with you, you’re not as smart as you would like to believe, certainly not constrained by a factual view of the world. Your snotty attitude wears very thin, very quickly. But, since you think you are communicating with idiots, feel free to resume your usual aloofness.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/07/23/yes-government-researchers-really-did-invent-the-internet/

Oh, that’s right, you meant “rein” as in what’s used with horses. My bad. I was under the false assumption that the 1% could actually write something intelligent.

When it rains, it pours.

Corporations are legal entities which are owned and operated by real people. The legal entity is legally treated as a person for lack of a better definition because it doesn’t exist without people in control of it.

I have never heard of the legal paperwork killing a court clerk by papercut so why worry about executing one?

Now what is your understanding of government? is that a disembodied entity in your understanding also or do you understand that it is run by people? People capable of the same self interest motivations as corporate execs.

Crawl out of your shell. There is a whole world of knowledge available to you if you just look.

S-corp are personally held companies (small businesses) they are not faceless entities, they are bob’s auto repair down the street. That kind of corporation is a person, because an s-corp by definition is a personal corp (all profits are assumed (and taxed) personally)
All large corporations are c-corps (because of the laws limiting S-corps) privately held c-corps (i.e. above small business) exist but they are exceedingly rare.

…By reinstituting the Mistake of ’00. Aren’t we brilliant.

We’re all fracked ladies and gentlemen. Shot by both sides.

Enter the third parties…

The speech was what it was. The president believes in social justice interpreted as taking from the wealthy and giving to the poor. Look at his speech in context with his campaign’s attacks on the wealthy, in context with his book where he speaks of associating with communists and radicals, in context of his policies like Obamacare that gives massive regulatory power to unelected bureaucrats, in context with his policy on oil where he ended drilling in our gulf but offers $2billion to Brazil for drilling off shore. Make your excuses but Obama has a history. there is a record. Name one thing he’s done that has been good for business.

Crony capitalism is a byproduct of socialism. Socialists can only impose their policies by taking other peoples money. That causes a lack of support so they find friends in the business world that they offer to shield from their policies in order to gain their financial support. Can you say GE? How about the Unions getting exempted from Obamacare? How about laws forcing non union members to pay unions even if they don’t want to?

i don’t care why the article was posted. it’s not my site and they can post whatever they want. If you don’t like the comments move on to another article, this one got 10 times the interaction and that means the site is probably gaining audience. they will earn more money from advertisers and the audience has has opportunity to face a very important issue facing the country.

ethernet is not the internet

ethernet was just one of numerous ways to interconnect computers and networks

DARPA was the first use of communications similar to what became the internet and WWW came from berners-lee and europe just like Linus Torvalds came from Europe and put his spin on a PC version of Unix

Unix created the internet
Telephone companies with their lines strung all over the world created the internet
HTTP protocol and DNS created the internet
service providers and telco companies created the internet

I say corporations are made of people just like government is. it’s not a legal point i’m making, it’s an observation of the obvious. Power corrupts and that is true in private and public sectors. When execs like those at Enron begin to feel all powerful they think they can flaunt the law, and common decency, and even bend the laws of economics to gain more wealth and power. You confuse my defense of the free market with defense of bad behavior by those in it. I don’t advocate a completely unregulated business environment nor does anyone I know. Just like anti-trust protects us from monopolistic businesses the separation of power protects us from tyranny. Now ask yourself which has more power to destroy, the corrupt CEO consolidation power or the corrupt politician? One ends up in jail (Madoff, Lay) but the other just exempts them self from the law. Remember the Capital Post Office Scandal? Government has consolidated too much power through Obamacare and regulatory agencies in the name of protecting people. Just like the overprotective parent that never lets a child learn about life, the overprotective government oppresses it’s people.

I’m not defending Republicans, they can be just as corrupt. But if Obama is centrist then the democrat party is now the communist party.

Class warfare is the number one tactic of the Obama campaign. “fair share” “fat cats” “wall street” are all tossed around by the President in a context to evoke anger at the wealthy. Anyone who wants lower taxes is called “greedy” and “unpatriotic”. I’m not wealthy and don’t even make enough to worry about federal income taxes. I do want more opportunity and history says that the opportunity I want for me and my kids is created in a business friendly environment.

The US corporate tax rate is the highest in the world.
“Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.” – USNews.com

You might want to go back to the GAO…

The vast majority of corporations are very small companies. These small companies are barely making it and these rates make it near impossible for them to compete. Only massive companies that can operate on economies of scale can survive rates like you talk about. Often by moving significant portions of the company overseas, like GE moved a bunch to China. The effect of high corporate tax rates is to stifle competition from smaller companies and ensure the huge companies retain enough market share to insulate them from the affects of predatorial business practices.

The law of unintended consequences. Unless you are like GE that can pay under 3% because Immelt has political connections… with Democrats. And they still moved jobs to China.

I don’t think my intellectual height should be at issue here. It’s your inability to reason and understand the facts that are in front of you. I don’t care to bait flame, I do hope some will try to think for themselves. Your criticisms are not substantiated except by your own assertions, that means you rely on what you think you know instead of critical thinking and research

Thanks for the criticism..

Where did all the decent politicians go?

Apple paid Xerox 4 million dollars to use some of their ideas, not 1 million.

1) minimize personal accountability and liability of owner AND manager
2) attract investment from disinterested & easily-manipulated shareholders
3) maximize personal wealth of board and professional managers (executives)

All else, including shareholder rights, are subservient to these goals of a publicly traded corporation.

By any reasonable definition, it takes teamwork to get anything substantial done. Arguing semantics is a waste of your time and mine.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407539,00.asp

MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!

NO MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!

Where’s George?

Why has this icon of everything right about the Republican party gone underground?

He’s not even invited (says he didn’t want to be a distraction?) to the Republican Presidential Convention.

Is there something you know that a whole lot of Republicans and most, if not all, Democrats already know? That George W Bush was a failure as a president. Unless you were a Corporation that is.

So are you a corporation? I heard that they are people now. I guess they’ve discovered their voice.

So, look this up at the GAO or other CREDIBLE keeper of stats.

Corporate taxes and personal income taxes for what we define as truly wealthy people, are the LOWEST they have ever been. They are not enough to pay for the disproportionate benefit that these breaks give to these people.

You say corporations are people. That is true in the sense that the Supreme Court argued long ago that the corporation is a person in its dealings with accountability in a court of law. If a lawsuit is presented, a corporation can be treated as one person in regards to litigation (either plaintiff or defendant).

recently, the Supreme Court, which has swung ideologically to the right has extended that to political contributions without the need to fully disclose who the people (your word) are behind those contributions.

You (regardless of your political leanings) are an intellectual midget.

As far as Obama goes, he is a Centrist Democrat. Some believe that his failure in policy is capitulating to the interests of many people whie serving the needs of none. A socialist indeed!

He’s as much a socialist as you are an intellectual.

You’re not even good at flame baiting.

It WAS FROM THE OUTSET an interconnect between multiple networks. The first day it was turned on it was between four separate universities. I was at one of those universities!

Additionally, to say that it had nothing to do with the cold ware is again revisionist. We were told at every meeting that the underlying purpose of this new network of networks was an experiment to come up with an implementation that would survive a Soviet attack. We were told this was funded by a DoD agency just for this purpose. So either everyone in the U.S. Government involved with the project at the time was lying to everyone else OR Mr. Taylor is changing his story now.

You decide: 100+ people were lying to every one involved back then or Mr. Taylor is revising his story now.

Gordon Crovitz and the Wall Street Journal are trying to make political hay out of this copy.

L.A.

Why don’t you go ASK those corporations to clean up the air and water pollution. Oh, and increase the gas mileage in all the vehicles while you are at it.

Learn to put people before the god of money.

The anarchists all marched with OWS types. Businesses are aligned with tea party types, for good reason.

The partnership you are describing is crony capitalism where the playing field isn’t level, whoever is most in favor with political power gets an advantage. That was how the Crown worked with the East India Trading Company. That kind of partnership is always bad for the people.

The constitutional role of government is to create an environment where businesses can engage in economic progress. Capitalism 101: move assets to a higher value purpose. Government research is done by people. People operate under the Rational Actor Paradigm. Government researchers often become the execs in new companies built on their research, they become rich and powerful.

Read the whole speech. The premise is that everything is communal property and government has the right to take what you have and give it to others. That’s the socialist definition of community. Now look at the reality of that. Government takes wealth and gives it to whom? Solyndra, Unions (GM, SEIU), friends of the party. That’s who. The Rational Actor Paradigm doesn’t only apply to business execs. it works just as well for power hungry politicians. Put the two in the same room and you get Hugo Chavez. Eventually one turns on the other and you get Cuba.