Comments on: Carriers could force 3G/LTE iPhones and iPads to use Wi-Fi to conserve spectrum

By: mossman

mossman — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:06:21 +0000

I had zero additional cell data used in the morning

By: Derek Currie

Derek Currie — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:37:46 +0000

This article is a bit silly. The problem isn't only needing more EM frequency spectrum. It would help but is only one solution. The problem is also BANDWIDTH. IOW: Hey carriers! EXPAND YOUR DATA BANDWIDTH! Get REAL 4G technology! (As opposed to the modified 3G tech being falsely foisted as '4G').

By: mossman

mossman — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 04:54:41 +0000

I see that, and it is a bit odd, but my router definitely saw my iPhone the entire time. iTunes also found it immediately upon launch.

I’ve reset my cell data stats and will see what it says in the morning.

By: James

James — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 01:06:45 +0000

Conserve spectrum!!!

Nonsense

So, I will use 2.4Ghz instead of 1.8Ghz

Still used up boys.

3G is what…500 meters max? (Or is that feet…avg…all the buildings…). WiFi is what….5 feet! (and never works as most only allow between 5 and 25 connections per access point)

Sounds like a good plan to me!!!

And, where do they think

By: Greg M

Greg M — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 21:04:38 +0000

Pull your iphone out and look at the screen when it’s blank. Hit the home button and you’ll see the 3g for an instant before switching to wifi.

I have to turn data off because of all the mysterious data charges that occur at night when I’m on wifi.

By: ytd2525

ytd2525 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:33:43 +0000

Reblogged this on ytd2525.

By: MarkyMark

MarkyMark — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 20:32:21 +0000

I’ve been sayin’ for years, Apple, AT&T, etc made an epic managerial blunder of nuclear proportions by not implementing a UMA/GAN-type of dual WiFi system from the get-go; Apple should have seen it coming, and forced the carriers to implement. We’d be living in a dramatically different world today if they had, instead of ever-increasing demands on maxed-out, browned-out cell towers with limited capacity and limited backhaul.

By: tbone

tbone — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:45:49 +0000

I blame the liberals.

By: peterblood71

peterblood71 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:17:33 +0000

As long a they don’t charge off cell minutes while using our own or others networks and not theirs. They have no right to charge for something they aren’t providing like AT&T does with their WiFi Microcell.

By: mossman

mossman — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:08:06 +0000

My 4S switches automatically, not sure what’s going on with yours. Carrier-specific setting maybe?

I sometimes stream music on my way home, and there’s a clear break in the audio stream when it finds my home wifi and switches to it. The screen’s locked and off the entire time. When I do turn the screen on (but still locked) it shows the wifi symbol.

By: HD Boy

HD Boy — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:06:39 +0000

This “solution” won’t work over the long haul. Land line-based ISP’s are either using data caps, or like Comcast/Infinity, new “traffic shaping” technology to throttle Internet speeds on their own oversold networks.

By: Tessellator

Tessellator — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:59:26 +0000

Nope, AT&T (followed t-mobile BTW) in calling HSPA+ 4G (which reaches 21mb/s) HSPA (which was available on the iPhone 4) is still regarded as 3G

HSPA = 7mb/s, HSPA+ =21mb/s (both are theoretical max’s, your millage may vary)

By: MEES

MEES — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:35:40 +0000

Second solution: Apple makes their own telecom.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:31:46 +0000

Could the carriers not work with land line Internet service providers to get new wireless router out to the public that have 2 radios and sets of service 1 for the consumer who purchased the bandwidth, and a second that would be available to these Phone \ Internet devices that would not count on the main customers usage and maybe even have Micro cells built in. That way the home user also get the benefit of stronger cell reception when home. For this to be accepted the customer who’s home the device is installed in would have to get priority in the traffic stream.

By: The Dreaded Romney

The Dreaded Romney — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:29:00 +0000

AT&T considers HSPA 4g because it CAN (not always does) deliver up to roughly 7mps.

By: HolyMackerel

HolyMackerel — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:24:47 +0000

One solution: share towers, then let the accountants divide the costs. Works with ATMs.

By: M

Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:19:51 +0000

iOS has a lot of trouble switching between networks. For example, dropping calls when going from 3G to edge, browsing Internet on wifi then going out of range in the middle of a page load, or when connected to a weak wifi signal.

By: Magicpony

Magicpony — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:09:20 +0000

Also, isn’t the 4s 3G only??

By: Magicpony

Magicpony — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:04:40 +0000

Weird. Mine’s always wifi whether the screen is locked or not.

By: Thelonious Mac

Thelonious Mac — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:56:23 +0000

No, it’s cause they have a great racket. Since there is no competition, no free market, they have no incentive to expand bandwidth. This is the same for land internet service providers. They just keep piling on more and more clients paying upwards of $100 a month, whether they use the network or not. They blame us, say we’re being bandwidth hogs, so they need to charge more, apply caps, and their only innovative efforts are being put into new ways to screw the user. Hence they continue to increase profits while spending as little as possible expanding and modernizing their networks.

By: alent1234

alent1234 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:55:14 +0000

when the screen is locked its 3g/4g. i started to turn the cell data off at home because then the battery lasts through the night on my 4S

By: bimi

bimi — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:50:38 +0000

Wifi IS the default when it is available!!!!!

By: danilko1

danilko1 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:46:53 +0000

So AT&T, etc. have a Limited Spectrum Disorder, and want to take it out on us.

Is this a genetic condition or is it do to some environmental impact?

Oh, I think I got it. It’s punishment because AT&T and T-Mobile couldn’t merge.

By: alent1234

alent1234 — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:38:00 +0000

i hope apple stops defaulting to 3g/4g when wifi is available and the phone is not charging. wifi uses A LOT less battery than 4g, at least in my case