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	<title>Comments on: Estimates vs. actual sales: Contrary to Gartner, IDC claims U.S. Mac sales slump in Q312</title>
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		<title>By: G4Dualie</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1005379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G4Dualie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple cares about every dollar it makes, period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple cares about every dollar it makes, period.</p>
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		<title>By: rjackb</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1005081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rjackb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say what you want about any of the IT research firms such as IDC and Gartner but they are not stupid. They have all sorts of ways to make their estimates (by monitoring channel sales, for one example).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about any of the IT research firms such as IDC and Gartner but they are not stupid. They have all sorts of ways to make their estimates (by monitoring channel sales, for one example).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave H</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably not to be honest.  US Domestic is just one of many markets for Apple these days, just as the Mac is just one of many products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably not to be honest.  US Domestic is just one of many markets for Apple these days, just as the Mac is just one of many products.</p>
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		<title>By: mrfergus</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrfergus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 23:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IDC and Gartner are full of crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDC and Gartner are full of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: G4Dualie</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G4Dualie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Who *gives* a shit what the US sales are?&lt;/em&gt;

Apple does, tard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who *gives* a shit what the US sales are?</em></p>
<p>Apple does, tard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohnome</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohnome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well that&#039;s one way to never be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s one way to never be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohno</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ohno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple does not report U.S. Mac unit sales

Well... That&#039;s one way to never be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple does not report U.S. Mac unit sales</p>
<p>Well&#8230; That&#8217;s one way to never be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: His Shadow</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[His Shadow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait. IDC and Gartner keep releasing estimates for US sales only when the only real numbers are Apple&#039;s numbers for worldwide sales?

Who *gives* a shit what the US sales are?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. IDC and Gartner keep releasing estimates for US sales only when the only real numbers are Apple&#8217;s numbers for worldwide sales?</p>
<p>Who *gives* a shit what the US sales are?</p>
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		<title>By: RePlay</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RePlay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, it&#039;s the one with it&#039;s own solar farm!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, it&#8217;s the one with it&#8217;s own solar farm!</p>
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		<title>By: TheMacAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheMacAdvocate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;d be funny if Oppenheimer dropped a number for the U.S. sales at the conference call, just to highlight how fictitious the numbers generated by analysts are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;d be funny if Oppenheimer dropped a number for the U.S. sales at the conference call, just to highlight how fictitious the numbers generated by analysts are.</p>
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		<title>By: Bizlaw</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bizlaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of these estimates seem to be as accurate as political polls these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these estimates seem to be as accurate as political polls these days.</p>
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		<title>By: correctu</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[correctu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently, from looking at MDN&#039;s 2nd chart:

Gartner estimates + IDC estimates = Actual Sales]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, from looking at MDN&#8217;s 2nd chart:</p>
<p>Gartner estimates + IDC estimates = Actual Sales</p>
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		<title>By: correctu</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[correctu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[11 foot Macbook Air?!? Oh, that must be the one with the optional hot air balloon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11 foot Macbook Air?!? Oh, that must be the one with the optional hot air balloon.</p>
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		<title>By: derss</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both IDC and Gartner have Apple&#039;s &lt;b&gt;worldwide&lt;/b&gt; sales estimation -- since globally Apple is not in the top five, the figures do not get into press-releases. How much IDC and Gartner are accurate or not could be only measured by comparing those worldwide estimations with Apple&#039;s official result.

So we need somehow who has access to full IDC and Gartner reports before we could see which of the two firms is more accurate now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both IDC and Gartner have Apple&#8217;s <b>worldwide</b> sales estimation &#8212; since globally Apple is not in the top five, the figures do not get into press-releases. How much IDC and Gartner are accurate or not could be only measured by comparing those worldwide estimations with Apple&#8217;s official result.</p>
<p>So we need somehow who has access to full IDC and Gartner reports before we could see which of the two firms is more accurate now.</p>
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		<title>By: Zmarc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zmarc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do Gartner and IDC even bother?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do Gartner and IDC even bother?</p>
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		<title>By: brillliantsandwich</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brillliantsandwich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did my part... bought a 2012 11&#039; MacBook Air.  Awesome!  Bring on Mountain Lion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my part&#8230; bought a 2012 11&#8242; MacBook Air.  Awesome!  Bring on Mountain Lion!</p>
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		<title>By: tbone</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/13/estimates-vs-actual-sales-contrary-to-gartner-idc-claims-u-s-mac-sales-slump-in-q312/comment-page-1/#comment-1004528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tbone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing is four certain. The computers Apple sold this quarter are not the same ones that it sold last year. That is of course, unless they snuck into people&#039;s homes and stole them in the middle of the night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is four certain. The computers Apple sold this quarter are not the same ones that it sold last year. That is of course, unless they snuck into people&#8217;s homes and stole them in the middle of the night.</p>
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