Everyone, just STFU about politics around here. This is NOT a political forum and most of us are NOT qualified to make informed statements about the ongoing catastrophe of stupidity going on within our fracked up POS US government. If the dopey statements made around here from either side of the moronic 1-dimensional political spectrum were posted in a professional political discussion forum, the posters would be laughed off the Internet.

I don’t see ANYONE here getting ALL the facts straight. All I see are propaganda warz. And do you know what propaganda is worth?

Absolutely nothing.

I’m just very sad that almost all of them are biased towards the political left, and Democratic party in the US. That means that one single party gets a huge amount of favoritism, and gets to do a lot of terrible, and corrupt things without much scrutiny. I would not like the situation any more if the media was similarly unilaterally biased towards the right, since then the Republicans would be able to freely get away with all kinds of terrible things without scrutiny as the Democrats can now, and we would be no better off.

Try thinking, it (may not) kill you.

Note this only happened when Republicans took over congress, and not before that.

I’d love to see an example of Democrats controlling congress, where they do have a balanced budget. Is that even possible?

Also of note, during both recessions we had Democrats controlling congress.

With 2 unpaid wars, it’s time to start collecting taxes that are due to pay down the debt.

You have disagreed with what I said before, fine. But you have hardly countered my ‘misinfirmation’. I don’t blame democrats solely but they certainly are culpable.

I’m not saying deregulation was not also part of the problem. But deregulation of trading mortgage backed securities is a problem mostly because federal government involved itself in pushing for bad loans to low income people who were not a good credit risk.

Ignoring this important fact not only is bad because it puts the blame only on one side of an issue where two caused it, it also puts us at risk of a repeat performance.

I certainly do blame the news media. It is seriously bias. You can hunt down a conservative point of view but it’s far more rare.

I’m not saying Fox News is perfect either. They are certainly not flawless, but the majority of the rest of the media is extremely non critical of liberal politicians.

In a perfect world you should not have to find a conservative news outlet to find out critical information about liberal politicians.

…because that’s what governments do; the government is best that governs least.

I think you should do a bit of research into the crimes he was involved in during the Nixon and Reagan administrations. He is in no way a person to admire.

-jcr

Apple (and every other multinational BTW) want a discount (not free) in the rate if congress wants them to bring foreign made money into the US.

The money was made in another country, why does the US congress think they have “dibs” on multinational corporate profits (even if those profits were made overseas) just because the company was founded (or has it’s headquarters in) the US?

If Apple makes money in china shouldn’t it be permitted to keep it (in china) and invest the money back into say, production facilities or building stores?

Or do you liberal ‘Mericans just think you are entitled to a piece of -everyone’s- money?

Why is our government making policies that weaken us?

Finally people talk about Clinton surplus and going back to Clinton tax rates… Can we go back to Clinton government spending levels as well!

Lawn Ornament was such a moron that he inherited a surplus and created the biggest deficit in recent history, making the current situation far worse.

With respect to the concept of responsbility, let’s note that banks made the loans. No one made them do it and no one made them flood the market with toxic derivatives.

Admittedly, the media is completely controlled by liberals … pinkos like Rupert Murdoch for instance.

The elder George Bush was a gentleman and a learned statesman, his son was not fit to be President.

Quit blaming the media.

Not even close. The debt hasn’t fallen since the Eisenhower administration.

-jcr

-jcr

The expense of the wars not only did not “help” the deficit, it added a trillion or more to our accumulated debt and created a large number of terribly wounded veterans who will need a lot of health care for many decades to come. The half trillion of annual DoD spending added another several trillion to the U.S. debt during the 2000s.

I have no problem in spreading the blame. The problem is that a certain group of people do not want to accept ANY of the blame. I am sick and tired of this crap. In the end, who cares about the blame – we just need to work together to fix the problems. And we also need to share in the sacrifices that will be needed.

By the way, your example is somewhat flawed. When you sell your primary residence, a portion of that is excluded from taxation. I believe that tax exclusion benefit renews every two years for a primary residence. Anyway this repeated taxation thing is nothing new – it applies to buying and selling automobiles, for example.

If you don’t like the tax laws and believe that you have a superior approach, then by all means advocate it. But don’t spout your partisan bullshit on this forum because there are a lot of people for recognizing it for the worthless garbage that it is. Actually, it is worse than just worthless…it is harmful to this country because it prevents people from engaging in meaningful debate to arrive at a better solution. It freezes the legislative process and locks us into the status quo while some people try to look ahead and others pine for an overly idealized past. Ronald Reagan would think you a fool.

The expense of the wars did not help the deficit, but the economic collapse happened due to pressure from democrats to force banks to make risky loans to unqualified lower income buyers. This made the banks short term cash but ended up with a catastrophe after a few years.

Democrats have never taken a luck of responsibility for their part in this collapse preferring to lie and blame it entirely on Bush and his presidency. The media which is entirely controlled by the democratic party also colluded with this acting as the getaway car.

So you want to reduced the corporate tax rate? Fine, just make it a flat rate, apply it to all corporations, and eliminate the writeoffs and loopholes so that they can’t game the system. Because an even more important thing to a company than a one-time tax break Is a stable business environment. Don’t issue an ad hoc tax break if you need to fix a flawed system.

Then raise the income tax and other tax rates on individuals to make up the difference in overall federal tax revenue. Workers will push for increased salaries to compensate for the increased taxes, and it will all work out about the same in the end.

Look, we are talking about $208B based on the four companies listed above. On that money, the Feds would net a one-time tax windfall of tens of billions USD – not enough to pay for six months of war or two months of running the DoD. It won’t solve the fundamental problems of this country, and it won’t even reduce the annual U.S. budget deficit by more than 5% or so. There are undoubtedly a number of other countries that would take advantage of the opportunity and increase the one-time tax haul for the Feds. But it wold still only represent a dip in the deficit road for this country.

I hope your head injury heals enough for you to function in society.

Are there other countries that do this double taxation when a company makes money outside of the country, pays taxes on it in that country, brings the money home and gets hit again with taxes?

The whole idea the US government feels that companies owe US taxes on products sold outside the US is outrageous. Pure theft and anyone who thinks Apple should double pay on taxes is part of the problem.

The world is full of mindless socialistic idiots who feel that everyone owes them something.

Mitt will change the process next year.

That means Apple doesn’t have a chance of winning the argument with the Feds regarding their overseas earnings. Therefore, if Apple is smart they might plant that new spaceship-like building in Vancouver, BC; Syndey, or Singapore. Actually, if they do that they could redesign the building so it looks like a spaceship in the form of a big middle figure pointed toward DC.

In Germany when they ask 30% corp taxes they get 30% corp taxes, no BS.
In US some of the largest Corps pay ZERO.