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	<title>Comments on: U.S. Federal government rethinking buying Apple computers over EPEAT withdrawal</title>
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		<title>By: G4Dualie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G4Dualie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t figured that out yet?

Every election year, our government is inundated with new ideas that are enacted with no possible hope for future funding, so these organizations limp along, operating on the ideal, not the idea, which is what America has been doing for a hundred years.

We are still the greatest shell of a nation that ever was, but I don&#039;t hold much promise for these United States, which are becoming more people-like each day, and in the end, my sense is, we&#039;re fast becoming a nation of fifty people and not the homogenous happy group our forefathers envisioned.

😜]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t figured that out yet?</p>
<p>Every election year, our government is inundated with new ideas that are enacted with no possible hope for future funding, so these organizations limp along, operating on the ideal, not the idea, which is what America has been doing for a hundred years.</p>
<p>We are still the greatest shell of a nation that ever was, but I don&#8217;t hold much promise for these United States, which are becoming more people-like each day, and in the end, my sense is, we&#8217;re fast becoming a nation of fifty people and not the homogenous happy group our forefathers envisioned.</p>
<p>😜</p>
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		<title>By: G4Dualie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G4Dualie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The real reason that a democratic government is inefficient is..&lt;/em&gt; because money is king and labor is shit.

Fuck money! I hate it because I don&#039;t have any and I need it too badly to think straight. But what is truly sad is, the rich feel the same; they don&#039;t have enough either, that&#039;s why we&#039;re fucked, even the rich aren&#039;t happy!

Now we&#039;re caught up in this farcical lie over money and the way the &quot;adults&quot; among us were caught red-handed trying to pretend they knew what was wrong when in fact their ignorance has only made things worse and delayed a full recovery.

The point is, we haven&#039;t hit bottom yet! We&#039;re still in free fall and we&#039;re worried about the environment? 

The federal government should get out of California so that we can build our own utopia. 👿]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The real reason that a democratic government is inefficient is..</em> because money is king and labor is shit.</p>
<p>Fuck money! I hate it because I don&#8217;t have any and I need it too badly to think straight. But what is truly sad is, the rich feel the same; they don&#8217;t have enough either, that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re fucked, even the rich aren&#8217;t happy!</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;re caught up in this farcical lie over money and the way the &#8220;adults&#8221; among us were caught red-handed trying to pretend they knew what was wrong when in fact their ignorance has only made things worse and delayed a full recovery.</p>
<p>The point is, we haven&#8217;t hit bottom yet! We&#8217;re still in free fall and we&#8217;re worried about the environment? </p>
<p>The federal government should get out of California so that we can build our own utopia. 👿</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhaily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikhaily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First thing first, the guy is not an idiot.
He had a point of view that i believe was clearly made. You could have simply disagree or agree without resorting disparaging remarks.

Being a complete Apple fanatic i am usually quick to defend my beloved Apple, but this time i held back.

I decided it was fair on my part to research the market on current ram and ssd prices before i cast judgement on the guy. He is right about the prices.  Dont know why i never paid attention to this before.  Could be because i can easily afford Apple products and as a result overlooked things that someone financially challenged wouldn&#039;t be able to, or might be, i am an not so smart either.

The other stuff he wrote is plausable
when one takes into account the untrustworthy nature of major corporations today. 

When all is said and done i have to say with a resounding &quot;YES&quot; the Retina Macbook Pro can easily be made user upgradable and still maintain its current form factor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First thing first, the guy is not an idiot.<br />
He had a point of view that i believe was clearly made. You could have simply disagree or agree without resorting disparaging remarks.</p>
<p>Being a complete Apple fanatic i am usually quick to defend my beloved Apple, but this time i held back.</p>
<p>I decided it was fair on my part to research the market on current ram and ssd prices before i cast judgement on the guy. He is right about the prices.  Dont know why i never paid attention to this before.  Could be because i can easily afford Apple products and as a result overlooked things that someone financially challenged wouldn&#8217;t be able to, or might be, i am an not so smart either.</p>
<p>The other stuff he wrote is plausable<br />
when one takes into account the untrustworthy nature of major corporations today. </p>
<p>When all is said and done i have to say with a resounding &#8220;YES&#8221; the Retina Macbook Pro can easily be made user upgradable and still maintain its current form factor.</p>
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		<title>By: misterME</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterME]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re an idiot.

Apple doesn&#039;t have to &quot;disguise&quot; anything. So long as they can justify it, buyers are more than willing to pay whatever premium Apple sets for their products.

This I far more about size, weight, and battery life. If Apple continued to follow the EPEAT standard in its current form, they would simply have to sacrifice one or more of those things. And Apple has never been big into the sacrifice (except the human sacrifices they all had to perform when they sold their souls to Microsoft back around the turn-of-the-century; thankfully, it wasn&#039;t a typical sale, but a short-term lease).

And comparing Apple&#039;s components with those available on NewEgg isn&#039;t an apples-to-apples comparison.ive had much lower rates of failure with Apple RAM and HDD/SSD than with top-of-the-line components I&#039;ve bought separately from other sources. So again, of the premium is justified through real-world use, Apple has nothing to gain for a &quot;secret plan to drive up the price&quot;.

BTW, Fox Mulder called and wants his paranoia back. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
<p>Apple doesn&#8217;t have to &#8220;disguise&#8221; anything. So long as they can justify it, buyers are more than willing to pay whatever premium Apple sets for their products.</p>
<p>This I far more about size, weight, and battery life. If Apple continued to follow the EPEAT standard in its current form, they would simply have to sacrifice one or more of those things. And Apple has never been big into the sacrifice (except the human sacrifices they all had to perform when they sold their souls to Microsoft back around the turn-of-the-century; thankfully, it wasn&#8217;t a typical sale, but a short-term lease).</p>
<p>And comparing Apple&#8217;s components with those available on NewEgg isn&#8217;t an apples-to-apples comparison.ive had much lower rates of failure with Apple RAM and HDD/SSD than with top-of-the-line components I&#8217;ve bought separately from other sources. So again, of the premium is justified through real-world use, Apple has nothing to gain for a &#8220;secret plan to drive up the price&#8221;.</p>
<p>BTW, Fox Mulder called and wants his paranoia back. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jsuvexx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jsuvexx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple&#039;s leaving EPEAT is all about money folks.
The Retina macbook along with all Macbooks and future imacs will all share share the &quot;Apple  upradable option only&quot;.
Apple as morphed into the jolly greed giant and  are hell bent on implementing the enclosed case design in all their products so they can overcharge customers for Ram and SSD drives.  

16gb of ram cost aboout $99 at newegg, how much  does Apple charge?

512gb SSD starts at $399 @ newegg, how much does Apple charge?  And guess what folks, prices are still on the decline on these components.

Based on current ram and SSD pricing an 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd configured Retina macbook Pro should be about $350 less.


Apple&#039;s claim that their current and future product design plans is the deciding factor for their abandonment of EPEAT is really nothing but a cleverly disquised anticompetitive consumer ripoff business plan that was deliberately allowed to slowly evolved to evade government scrutiny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s leaving EPEAT is all about money folks.<br />
The Retina macbook along with all Macbooks and future imacs will all share share the &#8220;Apple  upradable option only&#8221;.<br />
Apple as morphed into the jolly greed giant and  are hell bent on implementing the enclosed case design in all their products so they can overcharge customers for Ram and SSD drives.  </p>
<p>16gb of ram cost aboout $99 at newegg, how much  does Apple charge?</p>
<p>512gb SSD starts at $399 @ newegg, how much does Apple charge?  And guess what folks, prices are still on the decline on these components.</p>
<p>Based on current ram and SSD pricing an 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd configured Retina macbook Pro should be about $350 less.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s claim that their current and future product design plans is the deciding factor for their abandonment of EPEAT is really nothing but a cleverly disquised anticompetitive consumer ripoff business plan that was deliberately allowed to slowly evolved to evade government scrutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple is currently active in working with the government in updating the specification. More than likely, Apple did this to intentionally draw attention.

Apple is working towards a single specification that covers just about everything that makes a product environmentally friendly, no trust recycling.

Furthermore, I don&#039;t understand how gluing two things together makes something less recyclable. Sure, it might make it harder to recycle, but Apple&#039;s partners may already have a solution in place for it. I&#039;d also like to point out that battery &quot;bricks&quot; are permanently sealed and the enclosures have to be broke open to remove the cells. How is that any easier?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is currently active in working with the government in updating the specification. More than likely, Apple did this to intentionally draw attention.</p>
<p>Apple is working towards a single specification that covers just about everything that makes a product environmentally friendly, no trust recycling.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I don&#8217;t understand how gluing two things together makes something less recyclable. Sure, it might make it harder to recycle, but Apple&#8217;s partners may already have a solution in place for it. I&#8217;d also like to point out that battery &#8220;bricks&#8221; are permanently sealed and the enclosures have to be broke open to remove the cells. How is that any easier?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said</p>
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		<title>By: disposableidentity</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[disposableidentity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no one has any imagination. These guys think the answer is to keep cranking out cheap plastic crap, as long as it can be broken down into components with simple hand tools.

Apple instead makes solid products that last as long as you need them to without failing. They also happen to use less power, and are lighter. The trade-off? You have to use specialized tools to break them down at end of life. Apple&#039;s solution? Take the product back and creat a full closed-loop. 

EPEAT&#039;s approach is designed so a 6 year old Indian child can take the metal bits out before burning the plastic. 

Apple&#039;s approach is exactly what a real sustainability expert will tell you is the right way to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one has any imagination. These guys think the answer is to keep cranking out cheap plastic crap, as long as it can be broken down into components with simple hand tools.</p>
<p>Apple instead makes solid products that last as long as you need them to without failing. They also happen to use less power, and are lighter. The trade-off? You have to use specialized tools to break them down at end of life. Apple&#8217;s solution? Take the product back and creat a full closed-loop. </p>
<p>EPEAT&#8217;s approach is designed so a 6 year old Indian child can take the metal bits out before burning the plastic. </p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s approach is exactly what a real sustainability expert will tell you is the right way to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: disposableidentity</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[disposableidentity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They all still comply (except perhaps the new retina MacBook pro, which has the battery glued into the body). It looks like its preemptive. Apple wants to design products differently in the future, and knows they won&#039;t be compliant with this old standard/certification, so they&#039;re pulling out wholesale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They all still comply (except perhaps the new retina MacBook pro, which has the battery glued into the body). It looks like its preemptive. Apple wants to design products differently in the future, and knows they won&#8217;t be compliant with this old standard/certification, so they&#8217;re pulling out wholesale.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Currie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Currie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By all means, US federal government! Go back to buying Windows PCs and enjoy all the insecurity that goes with them. It&#039;s a good thing to have China PWN every single government computer connected to the Internet! Right?

Oh and never mind that Apple&#039;s attitude toward the environment is actually BETTER than that needed to qualify for EPEAT. That&#039;s too complicated for you to comprehend, so it has to be bad. Right?

Hopeless. :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means, US federal government! Go back to buying Windows PCs and enjoy all the insecurity that goes with them. It&#8217;s a good thing to have China PWN every single government computer connected to the Internet! Right?</p>
<p>Oh and never mind that Apple&#8217;s attitude toward the environment is actually BETTER than that needed to qualify for EPEAT. That&#8217;s too complicated for you to comprehend, so it has to be bad. Right?</p>
<p>Hopeless. <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: derss</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.
1. But how Apple&#039;s products did comply with this standard until the end of month? Maybe there is something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.<br />
1. But how Apple&#8217;s products did comply with this standard until the end of month? Maybe there is something else?</p>
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		<title>By: fatfreddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fatfreddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 03:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How come no one is blaming Obama and Big Government yet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come no one is blaming Obama and Big Government yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Magic iBall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magic iBall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or out in front as in &quot;no Flash&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or out in front as in &#8220;no Flash&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bizlaw</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bizlaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would any organization give any credence to EPEAT when it admits it is out of date and doesn&#039;t even cover phones and tablets?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would any organization give any credence to EPEAT when it admits it is out of date and doesn&#8217;t even cover phones and tablets?</p>
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		<title>By: 84 Mac Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[84 Mac Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help but think that keeping Apple products out of Federal government is a good thing.  

With Macs, iPhone, and IPads that Feds might be more productive which means they will find more ways to be corrupt and screw you and me.  Therefore, having them toil away on Windows machines, typically running XP, willslow them down a bit--which cannot be a bad thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that keeping Apple products out of Federal government is a good thing.  </p>
<p>With Macs, iPhone, and IPads that Feds might be more productive which means they will find more ways to be corrupt and screw you and me.  Therefore, having them toil away on Windows machines, typically running XP, willslow them down a bit&#8211;which cannot be a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Able Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Able Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[too true. Apple should have made it a press event before the actual withdrawal. Then they could have made it seem like everyone else is behind the times. Now they&#039;re just reacting. Kind of like antenna gate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too true. Apple should have made it a press event before the actual withdrawal. Then they could have made it seem like everyone else is behind the times. Now they&#8217;re just reacting. Kind of like antenna gate.</p>
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		<title>By: iNeuron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iNeuron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For bureaucracies purely focused on dogmatic status quo and pension achievement, Apple is viewed more as a laxative than common sense solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For bureaucracies purely focused on dogmatic status quo and pension achievement, Apple is viewed more as a laxative than common sense solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you know why.  if Dells are cheaper to buy than Apples, then the anti-tax crowd would be screaming blooding murder for the &quot;gummint&quot; (sic) to spend any more for better machines.

The real reason that a democratic government is inefficient is that the bosses -- the people -- have gotten so lazy that they accept only a candidate from either corrupt party A or B to run the show.  Result: corrupt parties do the bidding of their funders, not what you or I want.  

If you want a better government that is responsible to you, elect better representatives, don&#039;t bitch about (and mis-spell) your government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know why.  if Dells are cheaper to buy than Apples, then the anti-tax crowd would be screaming blooding murder for the &#8220;gummint&#8221; (sic) to spend any more for better machines.</p>
<p>The real reason that a democratic government is inefficient is that the bosses &#8212; the people &#8212; have gotten so lazy that they accept only a candidate from either corrupt party A or B to run the show.  Result: corrupt parties do the bidding of their funders, not what you or I want.  </p>
<p>If you want a better government that is responsible to you, elect better representatives, don&#8217;t bitch about (and mis-spell) your government.</p>
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		<title>By: twodales</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twodales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly the handling  of this whole thing has been appallingly bad. Instead of getting out in front of the withdrawal  from EPEAT, Apple allowed others to define the issue. Someone in PR is not doing their job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly the handling  of this whole thing has been appallingly bad. Instead of getting out in front of the withdrawal  from EPEAT, Apple allowed others to define the issue. Someone in PR is not doing their job.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  EPEAT standards call for recycling to be possible by untrained workers using simple hand tools (e.g. screwdrivers, pliers, etc.).  This would limit Apple&#039;s designers in using things like the unibody aluminum case, rather than a screwed-together plastic case like Dell.

2.  Political correctness.  EPEAT is the politically correct standard, never mind reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  EPEAT standards call for recycling to be possible by untrained workers using simple hand tools (e.g. screwdrivers, pliers, etc.).  This would limit Apple&#8217;s designers in using things like the unibody aluminum case, rather than a screwed-together plastic case like Dell.</p>
<p>2.  Political correctness.  EPEAT is the politically correct standard, never mind reality.</p>
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		<title>By: derss</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The two things are still unclear&lt;/b&gt;:

1) why exactly Apple quit this rating, really?

2) if USA&#039;s government backs stricter Energy Star instead, why it cares whether Apple participates in softer, older EPEAT standard?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The two things are still unclear</b>:</p>
<p>1) why exactly Apple quit this rating, really?</p>
<p>2) if USA&#8217;s government backs stricter Energy Star instead, why it cares whether Apple participates in softer, older EPEAT standard?</p>
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		<title>By: mac user 47</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mac user 47]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just wait til these idiots are controlling who gets what with your &quot;health care&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wait til these idiots are controlling who gets what with your &#8220;health care&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Now, Now...</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Now, Now...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll see in November...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see in November&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mitchp2012</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mitchp2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A basically free market (as close as we can get/closest example we have today) using 99% PCs. Makes sense. I hate the US politicians. Almost every one of them. I hate almost all of the news organizations, they are all biased and stupid. The US needs to look at reform and the most likely possibility is that the republicans will not like the change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A basically free market (as close as we can get/closest example we have today) using 99% PCs. Makes sense. I hate the US politicians. Almost every one of them. I hate almost all of the news organizations, they are all biased and stupid. The US needs to look at reform and the most likely possibility is that the republicans will not like the change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubermac</title>
		<link>http://macdailynews.com/2012/07/12/u-s-federal-government-rethinking-buying-apple-computers-over-epeat-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1004168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubermac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Federal gummint backwards inefficient, using 99% Windblowsfrommyass PCs?

What a shocker! A match made in heaven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal gummint backwards inefficient, using 99% Windblowsfrommyass PCs?</p>
<p>What a shocker! A match made in heaven.</p>
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