“After Apple unveiled the next-gen MacBook Pro, which includes the world’s first 15-inch Retina Display, techies began to fantasize about the beauty of an even larger screen,” Louis Bedigian writes for Forbes.
“The 17-inch MacBook Pro may be dead, but Apple still produces the iMac, whose screen comes in two sizes: 21.5 inches and 27 inches. A Retina Display of that size would be gorgeous,” Bedigian writes. “Then there is the promise of tomorrow, which will (eventually) bring the release of Apple’s first television set. Consumers can easily imagine the beauty of a 50-inch Retina Display hanging on their walls.”
Bedigian writes, “‘I think if they put a Retina Display [in the TV] and the main screen size is [at least] 50 inches, I think the price point of that device will go for more than $25,000,’ Trip Chowdhry, the Managing Director of Equity Research at Global Equities Research, told Benzinga.”
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Might as all get us a ballpark on the price of a Unicorn. I’ll weigh in at a trillion Quatloos.
Hmm. Quatloos. Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a very long time….
I bid 2 trillion Quatloos for the arrogant one!
That reminds me. Time to change my ATM password.
5 trillion quatloos and breeding rights for the next 5 generations!
I’ll wager 14 Quatloos on the large breasted female.
Time to start saving! 🙂
Retina at what distance?
That is the point they are missing.
A 720 P display at 50″ becomes a “retina” display at a certain distance.
The retina display is the point that the human eye can no longer discern individual pixels. The human eye can discern about 1 arc minute of resolution. The math can be worked based upon display height and number of pixels to get pixel height. From there it is simple geometry to determine the closest distance the display can be before the spacing between pixels becomes greater than 1 arc minute.
In many people’s homes, the 50″ 1080P display they have is a retina display because they are sitting at a distance they can’t discern the pixels.
Now… if they want to do a higher res TV, we have a few issues.
First is the panel- there are a couple of quad HD panel mfgs right now, but they are high dollar. That in and of itself hasnot proven to be a problem for Apple in the past.
The bigger problem is content. How many people are still dealing with horrible scaled content at home now at normal HD resolutions? Tons. Until there is content available higher than 1080P, there is no reason for them to make a “retina” television- especially since the variable of distance is there in people’s homes (they are dealing with a fairly fixed distance for iPhone, iPad and Macbook displays).
Exactly
I bet Sony et al will begin adding this catch phrase to their TVs
If not Sony, Samsung for sure.
lol Samsung is getting OWNED in court. So probably not. 😀
I would love one of the resolutions of the case to be, all Samsung executives have to wear Apple branded leather dog collars, and crawl around on all fours.
I agree, until they can start to deliver full 1080P instead of the compressed 1080i garbage a 4k Rez display just doesn’t make much sence.
For the reasons you state (eye perception, current content ratios), i’m not sure if it’s practical to produce a ‘retina’ display beyond 1080p. However, Apple is going to want to differentiate as much as possible, and having a display that matches the pixel density of the iPad could potentially solve a few problems at the same time: 1) content; 2) differentiation; 3) serve an additional purpose, while the iPad ratio is not needed for traditional content, the extra real estate might work well as an interface for its function as an iHub (which, coincidentally or not, just autocorrected itself with a capital H!). I believe the core functionality of the television is not technological, but it’s physical placement in the center of the modern home.
Well done. Under no circumstances would the Apple TV (not that I think for a second that it exists) require the same pixel density as even a Retina iMac to be considered a “Retina” screen at typical TV viewing distances.
Precisely. +1
Now watch the media pick up this story and declare as fact that the iTV will sell for $25,000.
Devastated about them dropping 17″ MBP’s.
Yeah me too. My first Mac was a 17″ PowerBook, then 17″ MacBook Pro.
First of all, there is no indication that the 17″ MBP is in fact dead, only we know that is currently not available with or without a Retina display.
Second, with each device that gets a Retina display, they make a clear point that the pixels are imperceptible to the human eye “at normal viewing distance” and they clarify that that distance differs based on the device: iPhone – 12″; iPad – 16″; MBP – 24″. Since a TV’s normal view distance is much greater, the pixel density can be much less. I mean, if “imperceptible individual pixels” is the goal, then many HD TVs could probably make the Retina claim. But I find the color intensity and contrast etc. that is so amazing on Apple retina displays is inconsistent in the TV market, even on the same model.
Precisely. The biggest problem with a retina display for a TV is that there is virtually no way to anticipate how close or far people may sit to the TV. And if you buy a “retina display” TV but sit too close to it, you’ll be an unhappy camper. Plus, Apple controls resolution for most of the content people see on their iPhone, iPad, or MBP — that’s not the case for TV programming. Apple would be wise to avoid calling any TV a “retina display.”
Whichever the resolution – the TV program itself doesn’t get better. Trash stays trash.
Then you aren’t choosing your TV shows well enough. There are plenty of TV shows that are better than the vast majority of books and movies out there, and they make ~42-44 minutes of new content each week.
(I also watch some shows that even I think aren’t great, but they’re entertaining.)
‘…than the vast majority of books…’
You sir, are a fucking clown. You have my pity.
+ infinity
If you think that there are better TV shows than “the vast majority of books . . ” we can safely assume that you are illiterate!
Reminds me of the nimrod who once told me “I don’t read, I view”.
My hand still stings from the bitch slap that boy got.
It saddens me to know that there are men like you who talk about hitting a woman because you disagree with them but you also put them down by referring to them as dogs. Don’t ever use that term about slapping again.
he clearly said BOY, not WOMAN, and he was clearly joking. All your comments are so piss-poor stupid- you’re lucky you’re just some internet troll and not someone I’m likely to bump into in real life or I’d bitch-slap your fat ass all the way back to last week. Sit down.
I’m sorry?
The term “bitch slap” is non-gender specific.
The gentleman in question was also certainly not a woman (Not sure, I didn’t check the personal bits).
It would seem you a bit overly sensitive. And while I would never strike anyone other than in self defense or the defense of my family. I certainly won’t bend to the will of some random stranger on the internet in my use of colorful phrases to add a comedic note to my posts.
Thank you for participating in this dialogue.
I love the commentary on this site so much!! I’m on my iPad. Am I viewing or reading?
Bitch slap is a description of an action- not anything demeaning to women- just the person getting b-slapped.
I am predicting a 4k display, with special 4k res movies for rent/own.
Since that is the resolution of most projection systems in theaters, they can call it a “Cinema Res Display”.
I do not see the need for a dedicated Apple TV for a couple of reasons:
1- Who actually uses the tuning end of an HDTV? Very few people, as most use a cable or satellite box. Otherwise, we do not need a tuner.
2- Who actually uses the built in speakers on a large screen set? Very few, as most use a sound bar or some form of home theater setup.
What that leaves you with is a computer monitor with HDMI inputs- otherwise an Apple TV box and the monitor of choice. Call it a TV if you must, but it’s a specialized monitor.
What about the Apple patent for glasses free 3D TV with hemispherical pixels that are crystal clear at almost any angle?
Could this be Apple’s iTV?
What about a really good interface on the TV guide?
Apple won’t introduce a 3D anything for at least 10-20 years.
I wouldn’t trade a piece of ABC gum for for any 3D TV.
@DMac:
You’re right. Apple has not stated that there will never be a 17″ MBP again. It’s the reason I haven’t replaced my 17″ MBP 3,1 with a 15″ Retina machine yet. I faced the same situation six or so years ago when Apple announced their new MBP lineup and didn’t include a 17″ model. They did indicate at the time, however, that they would be adding a 17″ machine in a few months. And I believe I’m correct in saying that at no time in the past has the Apple Store not at least offered last generation 17″ MBPs online. So I am holding out hope that I’ll be able to buy a new 17″ MBP some months down the road, but right now I’m a tad disheartened about the prospects of that happening.
The good news is that my faithful old machine still performs flawlessly, with its 2.4 ghz Core 2 Duo, maxed out 4 gigs of RAM, 160 gig HD and OSX 10.6.8. So, I’m not bitching. I love Apple. I’ve been an exclusive Mac user since 1985, and that will never change. But I’m a quadriplegic. I’ve accessed my Macs via a headset and on-screen keyboard now for going on 28 years. I have one computer, and I like to be mobile as much as anyone else, so it’s a laptop. Obviously, I can’t use much of Apple’s new technology, so when they start phasing out laptop models it freaks me out a little bit. Can you blame me?
Isn’t Trip Chowdhry a known idiot on this site? I seem to remember some other crazy stuff he said in the past that seemed to fly out of his ass, with a flock of monkeys.
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Monday, July 2, 2012 – 6:39 pm · Reply
‘…than the vast majority of books…’
You sir, are a fucking clown. You have my pity.”
Have you ever browsed the bookshelves in your average store? There’s an awful lot of absolute dreck out there, bought and read by very undiscriminating people.
Maybe you’re talking about super-market trash paperbacks?
In the pantheon of human existence hundreds of millions of beyond-brilliant pieces of literature have been published. Have you caught up on all those?
Watching television is a lazy, passive activity. As such, making television follows suit. The bulk of TV is made to appeal to the stupid masses, the lowest common denominator. A good book is written to impart a piece of the human condition that will often live on for ever, many great authors live and die very poor with very little recognition.
Sure you’ve got trash like twilight and Harry potter, but these are written for the same reason television is made and shouldn’t be considered substantial literature.
If you’re trying to compare Top Gear, Hell’s Kitchen, Mad Men, the sopranos, or Lost to REAL literature like Asimov, Homer, Shakespeare, Emerson, Twain…???
Sure there have existed decent TV shows, but they’re few and far between and the pale before the scope of the compendium of human literature.
What shows are you talking about that are better than books? Honestly… I’d like to know.
Who are you to determine what any one other person finds entertaining? And who are you to judge it?
Many of us live in a fairly fast-paced world, where we get our entertainment in bite-sized chunks an hour or half-hour at a time. I can spend that time watching and entire story play out on TV, or I can read maybe a chapter or 2 of a book. In those situations, I choose to watch TV. When I have the spare time to lose myself in a good book, I choose to read a book.
I’m a huge Apple fan, but I really do get the anti-fanboi mentality when I read a post like yours. The world isn’t always black & white, good & evil, us against them. And yet, when I read posts like yours, I remember how Apple fans got their reputation as tunnel-visioned elitists.
It’s time to grow up and realize that just because someone has a different opinion than you, or enjoys something you personally feel would be a waste if *your* time, it does not necessarily mean they’re an idiot. Just look in the mirror if you’re searching that intently for one.
Please don’t prejudice yourself against Apple fans because of one person’s opinion. Opinions are like anuses. Everyone has one and most of them stink.
Besides, you are on MacDailyNews. When I come to THIS site, I expect to read some crazy, cool, cantankerous, comedic and sometimes even correct commentary! Chill out my friend. Enjoy the ride.
Wow, with that logic…
Seriously?!
Without words. Just seems stupid.
Apple is not in the luxury tv business.
Clueless. Another case of mashing the last thing Apple produces and trying to force it into a TV design. This is not how Apple does their magic.
No matter how good the device, the same old shit will come pouring out of it. Hasn’t changed since my first 13″ b&w set.
Honey, I think the Philco needs new tubes
Comparing tv and literature.
I ate a movie and a book. The book was more satisfying. 4 out of 5 doctors recommend Pall Malls