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Steve Jobs wins: Adobe ditches Flash

Friday, June 29, 2012 · 11:29 am · 30 Comments

“It has been just over two years since Steve Jobs wrote his ‘Thoughts on Flash’ essay,” Kevin Smith reports for The Business Insider. “Jobs criticized Adobe because, ‘Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice…But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short.’”

Smith reports, “Apparently Jobs was right.”

MacDailyNews Take: As usual.

Smith reports, “In a blog post yesterday, Adobe addressed concerns that it would no longer support mobile flash on Android’s latest operating system, Jelly Bean. The flash-maker confirmed previous news that they in fact will not support mobile flash but instead the company will focus on flash for PC.”"

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Good riddance and thank Jobs!

BTW: Have a nice day, Lee Brimelow.

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Tags: Adobe, Adobe Flash, steve jobs, Thoughts on Flash

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30 Comments

I love Apple

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:37 am · Reply

Flash on mobile devices makes no sense at all. In very rare cases it is still useful on a Mac, but less and lesser. Only very few important websites still require flash, like the great planning tool GANTTIC, but within a year from now it should be over.

By the way, the least terrible way to use Flash on a Mac is Chrome. There Flash in encapsulated inside the browser and does not pollute the entire system. Even I don’t like Google, the browser is very good for such situations.
- peterblood71
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:42 am · Reply
  
  Too bad then Google has acknowledged Mac kernel panics are caused by Flash in Google Chrome.
  - I love Apple
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:46 am · Reply
    
    Yes, I know this, but it is very rare. If you have to use Flash as an individual download you will recognize much more problems. So it is, as I said, only the least terrible way. Only useful if and when Flash cannot be avoided.
    - deasystems
      
      Friday, June 29, 2012 - 2:55 pm · Reply
      
      I have been avoiding Flash for over two years now. It’s not even installed on my systems. They–and I–have never been happier.
- Rorschach
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:17 pm · Reply
  
  Sadly, though, Chrome for iOS does not have Flash capability. I downloaded it last night and tried to access the Glastonbury Festival site to register for tickets and couldn’t. This requires Flash to enable you to select a photo for registration. This shows how dumb web designers have become, when many, many prospective ticket buyers will be using touch screen devices, but can’t access this site. Utterly stupid
  - Paul B
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:53 pm · Reply
    
    I’m sure the MS Surface will run flash. It will be one of the big selling points.
    *We have a real keyboard
    *We run flash
    *We have PS/2, VGA and RS232 ports
    *We …
    
    Oh, wait they use the flash clone, Silverlight.
    - praus
      
      Friday, June 29, 2012 - 1:15 pm · Reply
      
      Actually it very well may not support flash. Microsoft has long wanted to crush flash as well and replace it with Silverlight. Flash is not supported in the latest windows phones for instance.
    - Tessellator
      
      Friday, June 29, 2012 - 1:24 pm · Reply
      
      Yeah well they better include a centronics port on the surface for my 20 year old line printer, otherwise: big fail, no sale!
      
      All the PeeCee’s have them…
      /s
- Only You
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 3:24 pm · Reply
  
  Smith reports, “Apparently Jobs was right.”
  
  Apparently??
  
  It is unvelievable how people still thinks Flash was good.
  
  The deeper thing is…. Flash is not good for PCs either.
- dinjin201
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 10:30 pm · Reply
  
  I removed flash on my mac. And installed chrome only so I could use flash for that rare one or two websites. I’ve never missed it.
What?

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:40 am · Reply

So they will continue to make flash for non touch screen devices which will mean the small web developers will still create flash content for sites that few will every see. When will they stop teaching flash in schools?
- kentkd34
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:23 pm · Reply
  
  If my experience as a teacher is any indication, they will phase out Flash classes, oh…..say 2025.
  
  Like the situation where the school system where I now work part-time had so many issues with 6000 Dell desktops, that they went to the same number of Dell laptops, 20 % of them out of service at any one time, changed to the same number of Netbooks, same out of service percentage, but the Netbooks are far slower on the net. To the point, that literally half the class period is taken up just getting them all connected to the net.
  
  Our tax dollars at work.
  - auramac
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:29 pm · Reply
    
    Yep, I’ve been there. Early retirement for me- as my father used to say, “Surrounded by idiots.”
- Derek Currie
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 1:16 pm · Reply
  
  but instead the company will focus on flash for PC.
  
  WHY?! Wake up Adobe and just kill it ALL already.
  - Coal Cracker
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 2:22 pm · Reply
    
    Agree. As a Flash user for over a decade, the time has come to be relegated to the dustbin of history. They can hang on for awhile in the PC world, but the writing is on the wall.
disposableidentity

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:41 am · Reply

No you probably just didn’t see the Flash-based nav for the rich multimedia ExplorZone gallery that accompanied the article. That’s what you poor iPad users are missing.
- disposableidentity
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:43 am · Reply
  
  Hmm. Without the original post my comment makes no sense.
  
  Or maybe I’m channeling just ZuneTang™ now (RIP).
Jeremy

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:44 am · Reply

MDN,
In my opinion you are the best Apple news site on the web, but honestly these ads are getting completely out of hand. You rip Adobe for flash slowing people’s computer down. Have you used your own site? Ads everywhere causing my computer to come to a screeching hault. Please clean up, then I might even click on one every now and then.
- chinstrap
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:21 pm · Reply
  
  There are available ad-blocking plug ins available for various browsers if they bother you that much.
  
  Just look under ‘extensions’ for what ever browser you use.
  
  MDN makes its money through adverts, though. So, be kind and support MDN avertisers, if possible.
  - Jeremy
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 3:11 pm · Reply
    
    I have nothing against ads, but honestly just take a look around. I feel like I am in a zoo full of ads. Sensory overload.
jose

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:53 am · Reply

If you strike me down I will be more powerful than you can ever imagine…. LOL.. .May the force be with Steve
- The Other Steve
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 1:31 pm · Reply
Zmarc

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 11:57 am · Reply

How long before Adobe abandons Flash on the desktop? It’s a dying technology. Mobile is where it’s at.
- iGads
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:20 pm · Reply
  
  +1
  
  What a stupid business model. Why not make something that will work across the board?
  
  “I like our stategy, I like it a lot”.
  
  I really don’t get their business practices.
  - 8^þ
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 5:59 pm · Reply
    
    Adobe made the mistake of thinking they were the dog rather than the tail. May they long enjoy the fruits of being high up on the underside of the tail…
- Paul B
  
  Friday, June 29, 2012 - 3:13 pm · Reply
  
  Flash on the desktop maybe around for a while yet but the purpose will narrow to building flash based games.
  
  Does anyone know if Windows 8 will support flash in the desktop version? If not then flash on the desktop is dead too.
  - 8^þ
    
    Friday, June 29, 2012 - 6:19 pm · Reply
    
    A memo from Adobe’s Winokur said:
    Our work together has to a large degree focused on integrating Flash Player into Metro style IE10 with special privileges that enable it to run while other plugins still cannot (consistent with Microsoft’s earlier announcements about plugin-free browsing). We did this work with their support and cooperation on integrating with IE and Windows. We will deliver future updates to the Flash Player (both security and feature upgrades) through Windows Update in much the same way that Microsoft updates IE itself.
correctu

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 12:01 pm · Reply

I wish Apple would make Quicktime Broadcaster on par with Flash Media LIve Encoder. Seems like they have left Quicktime Broadcaster to collect dust making Flash Media Live Encoder the only viable option for a quality stream at a low bit rate.
mac appleseed

Friday, June 29, 2012 - 6:21 pm · Reply

But, but, but … I am still waiting BB10 platform to deliver uncompromised mobile web experience including flash. Wake Up because Amateur Hour is Over. Be Bold.
Interactive Doc Fan

Monday, July 2, 2012 - 5:46 pm · Reply

The one good use I’ve seen of flash over the last two years is the NFB Interactive Films like http://bear71.nfb.ca and http://Waterlife.nfb.ca