Samsung accuses Apple court experts of ‘slavish adoration of their client,’ blames ‘cult-like following’

“Apple’s original U.S. lawsuit against Samsung is still scheduled to go trial this summer after the parties dropped a number of claims, which makes the presiding judge hopeful that the case will soon have a manageable scope. On Thursday (May 17), Apple and Samsung filed a variety of motions that aim to further streamline their California litigation at each other’s expense,” Florian Mueller reports for FOSS Patents. “Those motions ask the court to dismiss certain claims on summary judgment, to strike certain theories, and to exclude the testimony of expert witnesses hired by the parties.”

Mueller reports, “One of Samsung’s motions is reminiscent of the company’s recent advertising campaigns that made fun of Apple fandom: ‘Apple’s damages expert, Terry L. Musika, writes in his report that ‘Apple has built a considerable and at times a cult-like following to all things Apple.’ That cult-like following apparently includes several experts who are appearing on Apple’s behalf in this case, and may explain why they have cast aside established scientific methods and governing legal principles in favor of slavish adoration of their client and platitudes about its alleged magical and revolutionary products, issues that are of no relevance to the claims and defenses at issue.'”

Read more in the full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Apple should’ve trademarked “slavish.” Not that a trivial matter such as legal ownership would stopped Samsung from stealing from Apple and using it for they own profit regardless. If fact, trademarking it might have prompted them to steal it even earlier.

Apparently there’s no limit to Samsung’s and their legal monkeys’ tone-deafness.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “DMac” for the heads up.]

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40 Comments

      1. OK, 3l3c7ro, here’s you go. Samsung was desperate to compete with Apple’s iPhone, so they had their researchers reverse-engineer the device, with the instructions to skirt around Apple’s pending-patent hardware and software as much as they could. The company was moderately successful in this task, designing and manufacturing a touchscreen phone that, with Google’s Java-reverse-engineered Android operating system, could imitate many of the iPhone’s functions. Recognizing what had happened, Apple and its legal counsel decided that patent and copyright litigation would be one strategy for either stopping or slowing down the marketing of Samsung’s new phones. Such litigation requires the services of industry experts who can examine exactly how engineers did or did not avoid infringements. Legal systems, however, give attorneys considerable leeway, under the principle that free speech best promotes the discovery of truth through a robust marketplace of ideas, to attack the motives and work product of those experts in legal pleadings. Those pleadings are often leaked to the mass media to influence public opinion on pending litigation.

        There. Is that enough background for you to support the further dissemination of “uniformed bigoted opinion” (?)

        1. I believe 3l3C7ro was commenting about the comment “Kill the unwashed infidels!”

          That this was “an uninformed bigoted opinion” is a sentiment which I echo.

        2. A bigot could be well informed but simply choose to ignore facts. To be a bigot simply means having an obstinate belief in the superiority of one’s own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others.

          An uninformed bigot would be some one who believes very strongly they are right no matter what, but also doesn’t know anything relevant about the matter.

        3. OK, so if no one other than Samsung is defending Samsung’s practices in its re-engineering of the iPhone to produce its Galaxy series, that would suggest that “kill the unwashed infidels,” other than the unfortunate anti-Islamic overtones, is a neither uninformed nor bigoted opinion.

        4. Yes I believe that 3l3c7ro meant to say racist (or some other word to describe the the anti-Islamic nature of the statement)) not bigoted. People often confuse the words racist and bigot because they can often be used to describe the same person. Racists are often also described as bigoted, as their views on race are often counter to facts.

        5. @praus Islam is not a race. Comments about it are not racist but bigoted. It may be worthwhile for praus to look up the definition of race and figure it out. The language or religion one has does not determine their race.

  1. Sounds like Samsung hasn’t read this article

    Seriously, it’s 2012, and Apple has rocketed past Exxon Mobil as the most valuable corporation on the planet. You don’t get to that level of success driven along by a handful of dedicated, froth-flecked fans, nor do you achieve what Apple’s achieved by having a “cult” of people who will buy what Apple sells no matter what. Think logically for just half a second: Apple sold 37 million iPhones in 3 months. 37 million. If that’s a cult, it’s one damned huge cult.

    […]

    Whether you like the company and its products or not, Apple is now thoroughly mainstream. Maybe in 2002 you could’ve gotten away with painting Apple’s users with the “cult” brush, but doing so today just makes you sound brainwashed yourself.

  2. Samsung’s lawyers are just upset that they have to defend Samsung. The just hate the fact the Apple side actually likes the products they are defending.

  3. Sigh. Isn’t it just possible that Apple has the brand loyalty because it makes a high quality product that satisfies people? That other similar technologies make people feel stupid where Apple technologies make people feel connected and empowered?

    It’s an amazing feeling for the average person when they understand something and/or get satisfaction at a level they connect with and that translates into loyalty and desire for Apple products.

  4. Maybe Samsung should go after that Cult like status with their own devoted followers.
    Oh wait, they need to pay or give away stuff so their “cult” say great things about Samsung.

  5. Samsung said Apple’s customers are cult members. Ok sure.. I’m one of cult members will not purchase any of Samsung’s products.
    I think Samsung will be gone within this decade.

  6. Samsung, judging from your product releases and their styles, colors, shapes, etc. and other uniformity to Apple’s iOS and mobile iDevices, seems you were standing in line first amongst all those cult followers!

  7. Look at all the SHEEP here. I suggest the sheep look at the 2005 release of the SAMSUNG touch photo frame. Who copied who here. The IPAD is a blantant RIP OFF of the SAMSUNG touch photo frame. Oh that cant be, i can hear the sheep roasting from here. Funny that, Apple seem to think they are the inventors of everything, what exactly did they invent that wasnt already a manufactured component from SAMSUNG. Get over it, APPLE ARE FINISHED. There days of ripping consumers off are over. Buy two samsung for the price of one apple, …

  8. Oh please, Apples days are numbered. Remember SONY, the inventors of discman, walkman and all those huge fads in the 80s / 90s. Who would ever believe they would be in trouble today. Samsung now make SONY tv screens. Unless Apple evolve then they too will fall in a heap.

    1. It’s a culture of enforced loyalty.

      Take the individuals aside out the earshot of The Powers That Be (TPTB) and you get a different story. Nothing new here. It’s dangerous (and FUN!) to be an individual in public. I highly recommend it.

  9. I guess when rationality, objectivity, and logic are kicking your ass in the courtroom the best legal argument is to hurl insults. I’m surprised that the chief consul for Samsung didn’t call Time Cook “a big doody head”.

  10. NOBODY KNOWS THE KOREANS BETTER THAN I DO:
    THEY COPY ALL AMERICAN STUFF AND STILL WANT TO CHALLENGE AND COMPETE WITH WHAT THEY HAVE COPIED FROM US. AMERICANS AND THE REST OF THE WORLD PLEASE NEVER EVER SUPPORT THAT IMITATED NONSENSE MUSIC OF KPOP; DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CDS OF RENOWNED AMERICAN MUSIC ARTISTS ARE BEING COPIED EXACTLY THE SAME ONLY WITH KOREAN WORDS AND PLAYING IS AMERICAN FRANCHISES IN KOREA. THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH MURDER EVERYTIME AND SHOULD BE SUED!! SHOULD BE HEAVILY CURBED. THEY SO ADAMANT AND STILL WANT TO CHALLENGE THE ORIGINAL, THICK SKINNED TO EVEN PLAY THEIR IMITATED NONSENSE IN USA FRANCHISES AND THEY KNOW THEYVE STOLEN. SPREAD THE WORD – NO KPOP- THESE KPOP CLUBS DONT WELCOME FOREIGNERS, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE COME TO CLUBS LIKE TEENPAN IN HONGIK UNIVERSITY; THEY SAY NO FOREIGNERS, KOREANS GIVE A FALSE FRONT TO THE WEST, PLEASE BE CAREFUL. SECONDLY, THE LAW GIVING SAMSUNG SUCH AN UPPERHAND MANY TIMES IS DAMAGING THE KOREANS AS THEY FEEL THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COPY EVERYTHING.-MUSIC IS ONLY ONE. ..NOTHING WRONG HOWEVER TV PROGRAMS SUCH AS PROJECT RUNWAY, TYRA BANKS AND AMERICAN IDOLS IS REPLACED WITH KOREAN SHIT; INSTEAD OF ADDING THE KOREAN IMITATIONS THEY REMOVE THE AMERICAN PROGRAMS ALTOGETHER AND REPLACE IT AND THEY DONT CARE ABOUT FOREIGNERS WATCHING, IVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN EGOCENTRIC RACE. APPLE WAS COPIED AND THERE IS NO EXCUSE SAMSUNG HAS TO PAY FOR IT.

  11. …they have cast aside established scientific methods and governing legal principles in favor of slavish adoration of their client and platitudes about its alleged magical and revolutionary products, issues that are of no relevance to the claims and defenses at issue.

    Oh that old trick. So what are you going to do Samsung when Apple provides the facts and YOU provide the abstract rhetoric? Hmm?

    Samsung: Soooo screwed.
    I already bought the popcorn kernels and am ready for POPPING! I can hardly wait. 😀

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