“Tree-huggers who were feeling just a wee bit guilty about buying Apple products can rest easy today,” Steven Sande reports for TUAW.
“Apple has jumped up to 4th place in the latest Greenpeace ‘Guide to Greener Electronics,’ up from 11th place just four short years ago,” Sande reports. “Apple is behind green electronics leader HP, Dell, and Nokia on the list, but ahead of a stack of other electronics firms.”
Sande reports, “Not surprisingly, since they don’t seem to be able to do anything right at this point in time, BlackBerry maker RIM is in last place on the list.”
Read more in the full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: This makes the whale kebabs go down even more smoothly.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Lynn Weiler” for the heads up.]
Whale kebabs in my baby seal skin boots.
The continuing reliance of these lists on “plans” is what makes them ridiculous.
Thus companies who have cleaner business get lower scores than dirtier companies just because they do not do PR talks about how even more cleaner they are going to be in the future.
Pathetic.
What makes them ridiculous is that the “environmental” movement doesn’t give a damn about the environment. By rejecting science they use arbitrary and fear based methods for evaluating companies.
For instance, CO2 is not a pollutant, no matter how hysterically they scream it is. So measuring it is completely arbitrary — or would you have us believe that bakers and brewers are the worst polluters?
Greenpeace is a joke. I gave them $15 one, and they spent over $65 in postage alone over the next 5 years sending me glossy, bleached, come-ons for more money.
Anyone who reports these lists as if they had any credibility loses credibility themselves.
BTW, on CO2. It is an infinitesimal fraction of the atmosphere, and its IR absorption is lower than water vapor. Or put in laymen’s terms, there is a hundred thousandfold more effect on the earth’s temperature from clouds absorbing sunlight than from CO2.
What? Your body temperature has gone up by one or two degrees? Bah, how much harm could that do to you?
Dude, our planet is as warm as it is due to the tiny amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. It still manages to pack a powerful punch, let’s not underestimate it.
Regardless of your belief in the science, it should always be a goal to conduct business using the least amount of energy and producing less waste. It’s good economic sense.
Engineer, clearly, the analysis of data is beyond your comprehension. Let’s put it this way: how about we give you 100 nanograms of botulism — that’s only 0.0000001% of your mass — and see how it affects your system. Or will you “scream hysterically”?
@Engineer
Agreed!
Sunspot activity and water vapour in the atmosphere are responsible for global warming, not carbon emissions.
Check out “The Great Global Warming Swindle”
“The Great Global Warming Swindle” is an excellent demonstration of “garbage in, garbage out.”
A typical review reads: “The film had misused and fabricated data, relied on out-of-date research, employed misleading arguments” etc., etc. It’s another polemic based on faulty reasoning and cherry-picked results that ignores the vast body of evidence. Even noted sceptic Muller has done his own study and is convinced, but he has a working brain, and isn’t bleating lines at his master’s behest.
CO2 is not a pollutant eh? Then I assume you’ll be okay with breathing a special air mix in which the CO2 content has been raised.
Well, that hit the seal right on the head!
I just don’t understand these people! DELL (!!) is more green than Apple??!! In what universe? Are they insane? ALL of Dell’s products are housed in unrecyclable plastic. Apple uses glass and aluminum. What is it with Greenpeace? Are their IQs immeasurably low or are they being paid off?
And don´t forget the average operating life of the product
These other companies are “greener” because they don’t sell as much product. Seriously—I’ll bet part of this ranking system is based on tonnage of certain “undesirable” materials used, including shipping, packaging, etc.
“Are their IQs immeasurably low or are they being paid off?”
Both.
Without reading their report, I can guess based upon past Greenscam rankings that Dell gets a big bonus based upon the fact that they have a Chief Environmental Officer who publishes all the things Dell will do some day. Greenpeace gives you points for things you haven’t done yet.
Funniest MDN take in a long time. 🙂
——RM
Who gives a sh-t what Greenpiss thinks?
Screw Greenpiss.
Apple gets a zero rating for not using recycled plastic! What a joke! Aluminum is the most recyclable material on the planet. fsckwads!
Greenpeace gets “zero” for credibility!
I can’t imagine caring what a pack of publicity whores has to say about Apple. Greenpeace is not an environmental organization, and they never were.
If you want to help the environment, act locally.
-jcr
You hit the nail on the head jcr!
ACT LOCALLY. That should apply to hiring local staff too and not only buying and making things locally. The Apple retail store does just that!
All should read the green marketing manifesto by John Grant and understand that until sustainability is normal business practice, all claims are pure greenwash. Apple gets that more than others and that is why it downplays it sustainability claims ,letting its aluminum and glass products do the talking.
Oh, I feel so warm & fuzzy now…!